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bernitdown ago

Source on pillow over face or I call bullshit

RebelSkum ago

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/431439/trump-scalia-murdered-unusual-place-find-pillow

The owner of Cibolo Creek Ranch has even tried to clarify. According to Jake Tapper, the owner says Scalia’s pillow was “​over his head, not over his face . . . against the headboard and over his head.”

Edit: another source on suspicious details after his death as well: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-scalia-conspiracy-20160217-story.html

AreWeSure ago

Are you hoping people don't read the links you provide? Both of them eviscerate the case you made above.

Pillow was not over his face like you claim. He was known to be in poor health with heart problems, high blood pressure and was recently deemed too weak to undergo shoulder surgery. He was also overweight and a smoker. There were no signs of foul play. Yes he was clothed. Did you expect Scalia to sleep naked? His family didn't want an autopsy.

The Vineyard is Marth's Vineyard and we know exactly what he was referring to in that email.
There's no evidence for a Vineyard at Cibollo Creek Ranch, but you will find people using MS Paint to say otherwise.

RebelSkum ago

Cibolo Creek Ranch Vineyard is a real place which is part of Cibolo Creek Ranch: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cibolo+Creek+Ranch+Vineyard/@29.8527687,-104.3421611,14z/data=!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x86efb0a5569d321f:0x5b5bbb720c4900f1!2sCibolo+Creek+Ranch!8m2!3d29.861264!4d-104.3329128!3m4!1s0x0:0x5bc8e77df99fb5e7!8m2!3d29.8655928!4d-104.3314109

There are enough suspect parts of this case which make the allegations of suicide at least worth investigating and should not have just been immediately ruled suicide.

edit: And you say there was no evidence when you posted that there was a Vineyard at Cibolo Creek Ranch, but the screenshot including Cibolo Ranch Creek Vineyard is actually linked in OP: http://pizzagate.wiki/images/9/97/Scalia-ranch-plus-smithsonian_map.png

AreWeSure ago

To prove how easy it is to edit Google Maps. Please follow your Google Map link for Cibolo Creek Ranch Vineyard and look at the URL.

RebelSkum ago

Just because it's easy to change Google Maps doesn't change that it's there. I didn't see anything in the URL that said it was made after the allegations though.

AreWeSure ago

No. Look at the url, I just entered as the url for Cibollo Creek Ranch Vineyards. The url that is listed as part of this place is voat.co

That is because I just changed it to voat. Google maps accepts user edits. It's very, very simple to add a fake place to Google maps. And that's what happened here. This place does not exist. It's fake. 100% and completely fake.

The google map page claims this place is a restaurant. The fake images that were posted of a field on Cibollo Creek Ranch show no buildings. The ranch has its own restaurant and the whole point of a stay there is you never leave the property.

This is a completely fake winery/restaurant that someone added to google maps after this ridiculous theory came out. There's no web history for this place prior to pizzagate and the ranch website mentions nothing about it. They do talk about their restaurant all the expensive wines from around the world they serve. The Vineyard only means Martha's Vineyard. And this is just one aspect of this ludicrous theory.

RebelSkum ago

Oi, if you spent less time refuting things which are true then I'd start to listen to you.

For instance here's the Cibolo Creek Ranch Vineyard mentioned SEPARATELY from the Cibolo Creek Ranch BEFORE the Scalia theory: http://www.texasfamilygetaways.com/family-adventure-vacations.html

My biggest opposition to the Martha's Vineyard suggestion is that the Bernie event there happened days before the Podesta email in which they say "it is going to be a bad nite", implying it is still yet to happen.

In addition the Bernie pictures were discussed days before the "wet works" email and the associated article that was to go with them never published: http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/26/wikileaks-clinton-team-leaked-creepshot-of-bernie-sanders-in-his-swimming-suit/

reasonedandinformed ago

AreWeSure CTR troll readily refutes real leads as unsupported but constantly attacks Trump, which is heartening to definitively show that Trump is their enemy.

AreWeSure ago

The bad night was the day of the primary. Bernie stomped them in New Hampshire.

Where did you find that link for the vineyards and do you know when that was published? Was that just from a google Search? Because that is the only result for the exact phrase Cibollo Creek Ranch Winery that's not pizzagate related and it's one of only 7 results. 7 results for a commercial establishment is awfully suspicious. And it wasn't there a month ago when I ran the same search.

Because looking through resources for Texas wine and wineries, I don't see any listing for Cibollo Creek Ranch and no one one google has ever seemed to have discussed the wine. So this is curious. It's also not on the Wayback Machine.

https://txwinelover.com/texas-wineries/?wpv_aux_current_post_id=11110&wpv_sort_orderby=post_title&wpv_sort_order=asc&wpv_view_count=11065-TCPID11110&wpv_paged=2

http://www.americanwineryguide.com/regions/texas-wineries/

https://txwinelover.com/texas-wineries-map/

http://www.texaswineandtrail.com/wineries-by-region/

RebelSkum ago

Looks like the domain was registered August 2016 if you look up who is: https://www.whois.net/

RebelSkum ago

I first found that link at least a month ago when I was looking into the Vineyards location. I'll need to get home to try and pry some date data, but I concur it's not archived through Wayback or archive.is