Yup, gotta admit this was a high-level arrest. Just because it wasn't one of the Podestas, doesn't mean it's not valid. And we still don't know who Sandusky was working with, or the network that protected him. Sandusky was very into connecting through charities, so we don't know who he knew.
This is well-known. The Sandusky scandal was national / world news and people couldn't stop talking about it. And who says it'll stop here? You have Sandusky's charity and all those connections to investigate. Look, it's crazy to argue about this. If you don't think so, then you don't.
This has NOTHING to with Pizzagate. Pizzagate was SPECIFICALLY about high profile POLITICAL and politically connected elite. This was a coincidence at best and REALLY low hanging fruit. As stated elsewhere, title of thread says HIGH LEVEL ARRESTS. Up until this arrest, nobody had ever heard of the guy. So that's ONE arrest. Where's number two or more?
There's zero evidence or suggestion that Jeff Sandusky was involved in some huge circle of molesters. He wasn't "working with" anybody. He did something with his girlfriend's kid and as of now the details on WHAT haven't surfaced. All I've read so far are the heavily redacted texts so I don't know what the other charges are.
But high level? No. Not even close. Pizzagate related? No. Not even close.
The original Sandusky deal brought one of the biggest universities in the country to its knees and destroyed an American icon...and it was supposedly just a assistant coach who wanted to help a few kids...but then it wasn't.
What makes anyone think we'll actually hear right off? Lying MSM will cover until it is just too big.
NEITHER Sandusky arrest is Pizzagate related nor were they the result of ANY investigation anybody investigating Pizzagate has done. Without googling, tell me who Jeff Sandusky is. Where does he work? Does he have kids? Does he have a criminal history? How did he vote? Does he know anybody famous? He's NOT a high level arrest. NOBODY including David Seaman had heard of him before the news broke.
There's zero evidence or suggestion that Jeff Sandusky was involved in some huge circle of molester
Yet...
And actually, there is...The Sandusky "episode" was blown up in everyone's faces, and yet, ironically, it was a cover up, pure and simple. The guy investigating Sandusky was disappeared and presumed dead, his laptop was found in a river. Sandusky's "charity" was allowed to shred their documents after he was known. This was just a high level cover up. Sandusky was a high level sacrificial lamb.
You're confusing Jerry Sandusky and Jeff Sandusky. There was no cover up with Jeff Sandusky. There was also no Pizzagate investigation related to either. Jeff Sandusky got arrested because his girlfriend turned him in after seeing the texts he sent her daughter. There was NO FBI investigation or secret midnight raid.
As far as David is concerned, he's running a racket. He reports information that other people investigate and you know who the ONLY people that watch David's videos are? The same people doing the investigation who watch those videos and feel vindicated that someone is taking them seriously. He doesn't have any media clout and he's not reaching new audiences. But he IS asking for donations and promoting himself quite a bit.
If you want to send him money for all of his hard work, I'm not going to stop you
AGAIN!!!!!!! I didn't say anything about David freaking Seaman. Why do you persist in bringing him up like I'm some huge supporter. I don't follow him at all.
The aggravating thing about people like who you seem to thrive off arguing the semantics and technicalities of what is and isn't pizzagate is that you seem to have such tunnel vision about this. Pizzagate is one example of a much larger phenomenon. They are taking steps to tackle the larger phenomenon, not just Pizzagate. When we see clear examples of an effort to tackle the general problem, this, naturally, involves pizzagate.
Regardless, you can respond to this, but I'm done talking to you, because I'm convinced at least half the reason you want to keep harping on about this pointless semantics argument is to derail any meaningful conversation we could otherwise be having.
Yes and Freeh was involved. He came in at the end to smooth everything over. Freed was the most corrupt FBI chief ever, as related by those in the Agency itself, so it is said.. He was also the orignal Prosecutor in "The Pizza Connection" trials of the '80's which were massive; with twin trials taking place in Palermo Sicly. The had to build a special stadium like jail for the trials and hire their own guards.. Likely what would have to be done here for Pizzagate if it ever go that far.. Same M.O. they Pizza Parlors for fronts for large scale Heroin business and likely other crimes.. Pull on that thread and you are there..
The only thing I can say on the "possible" positive side for Seaman and his "source" is that IF Jeffrey was involved in a still functioning ring, it would certainly be a signal to the higher ups involved that the authorities are coming. But that's a huge IF and the reports so far (not that I trust the MSM) seem to imply these were more like Weinergate events.
On another random note, George Webb has mentioned that he thought Paterno wasn't dead and was in Israel. I don't really buy that, but did find it really convenient that he died practically immediately after this case blew up and before he could be ensnared even more by it.
Thank you!!! This is what I have been trying to get people to understand. Additionally, the more that people continue to sensationalize sh*t like this, it undermines the real fight.
His father was "just" an assistant coach...wasn't even Employed with Penn State when his shit came down. He was just "helping" a few misfortunate kids...but somehow had managed to maintain all the prestige and access to Penn State while everyone looked away...even the most beloved coach in America...
How is he high-level? I didn't even know Sandusky had a son. He can't have much power considering his father's been in jail for child rape for years now in a highly-publicized incident.
You're missing the point. It's because of who his father is that it's important. The Sandusky pedophile arrest was HUGE!!! It made every paper in the country. Even the sports radio channel I used to listen to devoted a special program to it every single day, and that was in addition to the hosts pretty well talking about nothing else. He was on the inner circle. Not only is he a predator, but he was a victim that became a victim through adoption. It's what we've been talking about! He is pizzagate.
Nope, not even close. Seaman lied (or was lied to) about mass arrests in DC, arrests that were to be related to the "pizzagate" investigation. Seaman is just attaching this single incidental arrest to his false prediction in a desperate attempt to save some of his reputation. It's clear now, that he is simply reading the same information that everyone else is, but wants to be a net celebrity, so claims has inside information.
You know what? It could be this. I'm not going to lie and say it couldn't be, but the Sandusky arrest is huge. Just huge. It is high-level so that does fit, but whether it's latching onto something ... I do not know. I can't remember anybody high-level going down on charges of being a pedophile, but it could be coincidental.
until today, I had never heard of Sandusky.. father or son.
a broken clock is right, twice a day. and honestly any law enforcement person would be super pissed at a some tool blabbing all over the internet, 'hey they are gonna arrest so-and-so"
like suicidal (the real ones) people, they (the law) don't pre announce what they are going to do, they just do it.
No offense, but just bc you haven't heard of him doesn't mean he's not big. Just means (I'm guessing) that you're probably under 25 or not from the US. All that to say, we shouldn't write off names/suspects until we do our due diligence to check them out. Bc JS is major.
Did you read @carmencita's comment? You should. No, the Sandusky operation was HUGE. Massive, Importante. Remember, this is an adopted kid! Adoption? Jeffrey is one of the children we're talking about here. Unfortunately, the years of abuse and grooming were enough to convert him and drag him over to the dark side, but Jeffrey was and is a victim. A victim that should go to jail, but he knows where the bodies are buried. He knows how these pedos get kids because he is one of those kids. Trust me ... or not ... but this is unbelievably big.
There might be some more being taken in, they will be making deals for sure, to save their own necks they will gladly take the big fish down. Let's hope that is the case here.
You're just as much full of shit as Seaman. This wasn't huge at all, and was definitely not was promised (massive raids on high profile people in Washington DC). Seaman is just latching on this incidental arrest because he is desperate. If there was a pedo arrest in the north pole, he would have claimed that too. Stop shilling for a fraud.
I don't think he's a fraud. There's nothing fraudulent about what he does. If you think he is a fraud, I don't have a problem with that. I think he's done a couple of decent videos. Like I said, I don't follow him, so I really haven't seen a lot of them. So I'm not "shillng" for him. I'll back anyone that wants to stop kids from being molested. He's very vocal about that and has put himself out there. That's also something I think commendable. I also think this forum is commendable. There's been some amazing detective work so whatever. Just stating my opinion, but I know what you're saying.
I'm not either, but I do think Seaman has put himself way out there. And I figure he must have done something really stupendous to be vilified and showered with this much hatred. And I think it's absolutely a certainty he's part of something global. His father was and his being arrested is huge. Massive. He knows where all the bodies are buried. He has to.
Seaman probably has info on someone higher up and agreed to keep it hidden for inside information. It's how most journalists work as they have backups of everything and all information will be released if they have a suspicious death.
Oh, yeah! In fact, Sandusky might have been given a pass because he was associated with charities. It's a great cover story to have. And think about it, when these arrests start coming, there might be an intelligence behind the arrests. Yes, they have the evidence, but there might be a certain order they use so they can go up the pecking order and get the elite pedos. They're the ones running things, and this Jeffrey guy was in a perfect position to know the players through his dad. There had to be some pretty big names propping Sandusky up and what do you think he was doing for them in return? This is very hopeful. Thanks, David!
I hope so, too. But really, arresting Sandusky is an amazing sign. This would not have happened with this new administration being in office. With all the connections, this would have been swept right under the rug and the victim that complained called a liar and dismissed.
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quantokitty ago
Yup, gotta admit this was a high-level arrest. Just because it wasn't one of the Podestas, doesn't mean it's not valid. And we still don't know who Sandusky was working with, or the network that protected him. Sandusky was very into connecting through charities, so we don't know who he knew.
gAvenger ago
I admit no such thing. This appears part of an ongoing operation and Seaman clearly implied multiple well known arrests.
quantokitty ago
Alex Jones just confirmed that the arrest is huge and the start of Trump's promise to lock up the pedos.
quantokitty ago
This is well-known. The Sandusky scandal was national / world news and people couldn't stop talking about it. And who says it'll stop here? You have Sandusky's charity and all those connections to investigate. Look, it's crazy to argue about this. If you don't think so, then you don't.
MolochHunter ago
i wonder how many folks here are big enough to apologise to Seaman. Probably not many, they'll all have their small minded excuses
quantokitty ago
The amount of hatred is crazy.
HarveyKlinger ago
This has NOTHING to with Pizzagate. Pizzagate was SPECIFICALLY about high profile POLITICAL and politically connected elite. This was a coincidence at best and REALLY low hanging fruit. As stated elsewhere, title of thread says HIGH LEVEL ARRESTS. Up until this arrest, nobody had ever heard of the guy. So that's ONE arrest. Where's number two or more?
There's zero evidence or suggestion that Jeff Sandusky was involved in some huge circle of molesters. He wasn't "working with" anybody. He did something with his girlfriend's kid and as of now the details on WHAT haven't surfaced. All I've read so far are the heavily redacted texts so I don't know what the other charges are.
But high level? No. Not even close. Pizzagate related? No. Not even close.
Melitica ago
The original Sandusky deal brought one of the biggest universities in the country to its knees and destroyed an American icon...and it was supposedly just a assistant coach who wanted to help a few kids...but then it wasn't.
What makes anyone think we'll actually hear right off? Lying MSM will cover until it is just too big.
HarveyKlinger ago
NEITHER Sandusky arrest is Pizzagate related nor were they the result of ANY investigation anybody investigating Pizzagate has done. Without googling, tell me who Jeff Sandusky is. Where does he work? Does he have kids? Does he have a criminal history? How did he vote? Does he know anybody famous? He's NOT a high level arrest. NOBODY including David Seaman had heard of him before the news broke.
we_kill_creativity ago
Yet...
And actually, there is...The Sandusky "episode" was blown up in everyone's faces, and yet, ironically, it was a cover up, pure and simple. The guy investigating Sandusky was disappeared and presumed dead, his laptop was found in a river. Sandusky's "charity" was allowed to shred their documents after he was known. This was just a high level cover up. Sandusky was a high level sacrificial lamb.
HarveyKlinger ago
You're confusing Jerry Sandusky and Jeff Sandusky. There was no cover up with Jeff Sandusky. There was also no Pizzagate investigation related to either. Jeff Sandusky got arrested because his girlfriend turned him in after seeing the texts he sent her daughter. There was NO FBI investigation or secret midnight raid.
As far as David is concerned, he's running a racket. He reports information that other people investigate and you know who the ONLY people that watch David's videos are? The same people doing the investigation who watch those videos and feel vindicated that someone is taking them seriously. He doesn't have any media clout and he's not reaching new audiences. But he IS asking for donations and promoting himself quite a bit.
we_kill_creativity ago
How do you know that? We're talking about the adopted son of pedophile who ran a children's charity for years....No cover up!?!?!?
So maybe there should be!?!?!
I didn't mention David, but ...
It is interesting that you devote most of your response to something I didn't even bring up. Changing the subject much?...
HarveyKlinger ago
Whatever. Do what you want. If you want to send him money for all of his hard work, I'm not going to stop you.
As far as Jeff Sandusky, EVERYTHING in your posts talks about Jerry. Tell me all about Jeff and how it relates to Pizzagate. ... I'll wait.
we_kill_creativity ago
AGAIN!!!!!!! I didn't say anything about David freaking Seaman. Why do you persist in bringing him up like I'm some huge supporter. I don't follow him at all.
The aggravating thing about people like who you seem to thrive off arguing the semantics and technicalities of what is and isn't pizzagate is that you seem to have such tunnel vision about this. Pizzagate is one example of a much larger phenomenon. They are taking steps to tackle the larger phenomenon, not just Pizzagate. When we see clear examples of an effort to tackle the general problem, this, naturally, involves pizzagate.
Regardless, you can respond to this, but I'm done talking to you, because I'm convinced at least half the reason you want to keep harping on about this pointless semantics argument is to derail any meaningful conversation we could otherwise be having.
samhara ago
Yes and Freeh was involved. He came in at the end to smooth everything over. Freed was the most corrupt FBI chief ever, as related by those in the Agency itself, so it is said.. He was also the orignal Prosecutor in "The Pizza Connection" trials of the '80's which were massive; with twin trials taking place in Palermo Sicly. The had to build a special stadium like jail for the trials and hire their own guards.. Likely what would have to be done here for Pizzagate if it ever go that far.. Same M.O. they Pizza Parlors for fronts for large scale Heroin business and likely other crimes.. Pull on that thread and you are there..
Freemasonsrus ago
The only thing I can say on the "possible" positive side for Seaman and his "source" is that IF Jeffrey was involved in a still functioning ring, it would certainly be a signal to the higher ups involved that the authorities are coming. But that's a huge IF and the reports so far (not that I trust the MSM) seem to imply these were more like Weinergate events. On another random note, George Webb has mentioned that he thought Paterno wasn't dead and was in Israel. I don't really buy that, but did find it really convenient that he died practically immediately after this case blew up and before he could be ensnared even more by it.
bgrenual ago
Thank you!!! This is what I have been trying to get people to understand. Additionally, the more that people continue to sensationalize sh*t like this, it undermines the real fight.
Scirel ago
I know, exactly what I thought.
Jerry Sandusky's son was arrested. The earth is quaking under our feet...
DustyRadio ago
Thank you, this exactly what I thought also. How fortuitous for Seaman that this happened today so he can cling to it for his fans.
SIMONBARROW ago
Come on, who is Sandusky anyway? An assistant coach? So not even a coach.
quantokitty ago
It's his dad that makes this important.
SIMONBARROW ago
He's just an ASSISTANT coach. How big a deal can an ASSISTANT be?
quantokitty ago
Well, another big time journalist/commentator, Alex Jones, has categorized this arrest as huge and as the start of Trump's promise of a pedo sweep.
Melitica ago
His father was "just" an assistant coach...wasn't even Employed with Penn State when his shit came down. He was just "helping" a few misfortunate kids...but somehow had managed to maintain all the prestige and access to Penn State while everyone looked away...even the most beloved coach in America...
madmanpg ago
How is he high-level? I didn't even know Sandusky had a son. He can't have much power considering his father's been in jail for child rape for years now in a highly-publicized incident.
quantokitty ago
You're missing the point. It's because of who his father is that it's important. The Sandusky pedophile arrest was HUGE!!! It made every paper in the country. Even the sports radio channel I used to listen to devoted a special program to it every single day, and that was in addition to the hosts pretty well talking about nothing else. He was on the inner circle. Not only is he a predator, but he was a victim that became a victim through adoption. It's what we've been talking about! He is pizzagate.
williamwire ago
Nope this isn't valid at all.
quantokitty ago
Totally valid. Completely and utterly. HUGE. Just huge. Now if Jeffrey will just sing like a birdie all will be well in bringing down more pedos.
williamwire ago
Nope, not even close. Seaman lied (or was lied to) about mass arrests in DC, arrests that were to be related to the "pizzagate" investigation. Seaman is just attaching this single incidental arrest to his false prediction in a desperate attempt to save some of his reputation. It's clear now, that he is simply reading the same information that everyone else is, but wants to be a net celebrity, so claims has inside information.
quantokitty ago
You know what? It could be this. I'm not going to lie and say it couldn't be, but the Sandusky arrest is huge. Just huge. It is high-level so that does fit, but whether it's latching onto something ... I do not know. I can't remember anybody high-level going down on charges of being a pedophile, but it could be coincidental.
williamwire ago
I don't see it as high profile, sorry, nor does it fit the other criteria: mass arrests in Washington D.C.
listentoreason2017 ago
I mean, I guess it's high-level because he's related to Sandusky but he's not exactly an elite.
And it didn't seem like this was some huge operation yet. But maybe it will be.
Weightstone ago
until today, I had never heard of Sandusky.. father or son. a broken clock is right, twice a day. and honestly any law enforcement person would be super pissed at a some tool blabbing all over the internet, 'hey they are gonna arrest so-and-so" like suicidal (the real ones) people, they (the law) don't pre announce what they are going to do, they just do it.
Dasistnichtgut ago
No offense, but just bc you haven't heard of him doesn't mean he's not big. Just means (I'm guessing) that you're probably under 25 or not from the US. All that to say, we shouldn't write off names/suspects until we do our due diligence to check them out. Bc JS is major.
quantokitty ago
Did you read @carmencita's comment? You should. No, the Sandusky operation was HUGE. Massive, Importante. Remember, this is an adopted kid! Adoption? Jeffrey is one of the children we're talking about here. Unfortunately, the years of abuse and grooming were enough to convert him and drag him over to the dark side, but Jeffrey was and is a victim. A victim that should go to jail, but he knows where the bodies are buried. He knows how these pedos get kids because he is one of those kids. Trust me ... or not ... but this is unbelievably big.
carmencita ago
There might be some more being taken in, they will be making deals for sure, to save their own necks they will gladly take the big fish down. Let's hope that is the case here.
quantokitty ago
That's what I'm hoping. We need the sharks as well as the guppies.
quantokitty ago
That is what I am hoping. We need the sharks as well as the guppies.
williamwire ago
You're just as much full of shit as Seaman. This wasn't huge at all, and was definitely not was promised (massive raids on high profile people in Washington DC). Seaman is just latching on this incidental arrest because he is desperate. If there was a pedo arrest in the north pole, he would have claimed that too. Stop shilling for a fraud.
roundhouse1776 ago
That's exactly what he's doing. This was a happy coincidence for him to save a sliver of credibility with his cult worshippers.
During his tirade earlier today, he sent a tweet directed at the DHS asking why they hadn't arrested Podesta, Brock, and Neera Tanden yet.
He was so far off base and had absolutely no idea about Sandusky. He's a total fraud.
quantokitty ago
I don't think he's a fraud. There's nothing fraudulent about what he does. If you think he is a fraud, I don't have a problem with that. I think he's done a couple of decent videos. Like I said, I don't follow him, so I really haven't seen a lot of them. So I'm not "shillng" for him. I'll back anyone that wants to stop kids from being molested. He's very vocal about that and has put himself out there. That's also something I think commendable. I also think this forum is commendable. There's been some amazing detective work so whatever. Just stating my opinion, but I know what you're saying.
williamwire ago
Good enough, sir.
carmencita ago
I am not a Seaman watcher, but I know I have seen articles and comments about Sandusky possibly being part of a global operation. Just Sayin'.
TomDrew87 ago
Oh yeh this is an international network we're dealing with, children is only one part, they also do weapons and drugs
carmencita ago
Yeah, the kids are not enough. Sick Varmints.
quantokitty ago
I'm not either, but I do think Seaman has put himself way out there. And I figure he must have done something really stupendous to be vilified and showered with this much hatred. And I think it's absolutely a certainty he's part of something global. His father was and his being arrested is huge. Massive. He knows where all the bodies are buried. He has to.
hels ago
Seaman probably has info on someone higher up and agreed to keep it hidden for inside information. It's how most journalists work as they have backups of everything and all information will be released if they have a suspicious death.
quantokitty ago
No doubt. I would hope he does, anyway.
bopper ago
"Connected through charities." Well that would be hopeful, didn't know that.
quantokitty ago
Oh, yeah! In fact, Sandusky might have been given a pass because he was associated with charities. It's a great cover story to have. And think about it, when these arrests start coming, there might be an intelligence behind the arrests. Yes, they have the evidence, but there might be a certain order they use so they can go up the pecking order and get the elite pedos. They're the ones running things, and this Jeffrey guy was in a perfect position to know the players through his dad. There had to be some pretty big names propping Sandusky up and what do you think he was doing for them in return? This is very hopeful. Thanks, David!
YingYangMom ago
Makes sense. I hope you're right.
quantokitty ago
I hope so, too. But really, arresting Sandusky is an amazing sign. This would not have happened with this new administration being in office. With all the connections, this would have been swept right under the rug and the victim that complained called a liar and dismissed.
bopper ago
Sounds sensible to me. Thanks.
quantokitty ago
You're welcome.