Yup, gotta admit this was a high-level arrest. Just because it wasn't one of the Podestas, doesn't mean it's not valid. And we still don't know who Sandusky was working with, or the network that protected him. Sandusky was very into connecting through charities, so we don't know who he knew.
This has NOTHING to with Pizzagate. Pizzagate was SPECIFICALLY about high profile POLITICAL and politically connected elite. This was a coincidence at best and REALLY low hanging fruit. As stated elsewhere, title of thread says HIGH LEVEL ARRESTS. Up until this arrest, nobody had ever heard of the guy. So that's ONE arrest. Where's number two or more?
There's zero evidence or suggestion that Jeff Sandusky was involved in some huge circle of molesters. He wasn't "working with" anybody. He did something with his girlfriend's kid and as of now the details on WHAT haven't surfaced. All I've read so far are the heavily redacted texts so I don't know what the other charges are.
But high level? No. Not even close. Pizzagate related? No. Not even close.
There's zero evidence or suggestion that Jeff Sandusky was involved in some huge circle of molester
Yet...
And actually, there is...The Sandusky "episode" was blown up in everyone's faces, and yet, ironically, it was a cover up, pure and simple. The guy investigating Sandusky was disappeared and presumed dead, his laptop was found in a river. Sandusky's "charity" was allowed to shred their documents after he was known. This was just a high level cover up. Sandusky was a high level sacrificial lamb.
You're confusing Jerry Sandusky and Jeff Sandusky. There was no cover up with Jeff Sandusky. There was also no Pizzagate investigation related to either. Jeff Sandusky got arrested because his girlfriend turned him in after seeing the texts he sent her daughter. There was NO FBI investigation or secret midnight raid.
As far as David is concerned, he's running a racket. He reports information that other people investigate and you know who the ONLY people that watch David's videos are? The same people doing the investigation who watch those videos and feel vindicated that someone is taking them seriously. He doesn't have any media clout and he's not reaching new audiences. But he IS asking for donations and promoting himself quite a bit.
If you want to send him money for all of his hard work, I'm not going to stop you
AGAIN!!!!!!! I didn't say anything about David freaking Seaman. Why do you persist in bringing him up like I'm some huge supporter. I don't follow him at all.
The aggravating thing about people like who you seem to thrive off arguing the semantics and technicalities of what is and isn't pizzagate is that you seem to have such tunnel vision about this. Pizzagate is one example of a much larger phenomenon. They are taking steps to tackle the larger phenomenon, not just Pizzagate. When we see clear examples of an effort to tackle the general problem, this, naturally, involves pizzagate.
Regardless, you can respond to this, but I'm done talking to you, because I'm convinced at least half the reason you want to keep harping on about this pointless semantics argument is to derail any meaningful conversation we could otherwise be having.
Yes and Freeh was involved. He came in at the end to smooth everything over. Freed was the most corrupt FBI chief ever, as related by those in the Agency itself, so it is said.. He was also the orignal Prosecutor in "The Pizza Connection" trials of the '80's which were massive; with twin trials taking place in Palermo Sicly. The had to build a special stadium like jail for the trials and hire their own guards.. Likely what would have to be done here for Pizzagate if it ever go that far.. Same M.O. they Pizza Parlors for fronts for large scale Heroin business and likely other crimes.. Pull on that thread and you are there..
The only thing I can say on the "possible" positive side for Seaman and his "source" is that IF Jeffrey was involved in a still functioning ring, it would certainly be a signal to the higher ups involved that the authorities are coming. But that's a huge IF and the reports so far (not that I trust the MSM) seem to imply these were more like Weinergate events.
On another random note, George Webb has mentioned that he thought Paterno wasn't dead and was in Israel. I don't really buy that, but did find it really convenient that he died practically immediately after this case blew up and before he could be ensnared even more by it.
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quantokitty ago
Yup, gotta admit this was a high-level arrest. Just because it wasn't one of the Podestas, doesn't mean it's not valid. And we still don't know who Sandusky was working with, or the network that protected him. Sandusky was very into connecting through charities, so we don't know who he knew.
HarveyKlinger ago
This has NOTHING to with Pizzagate. Pizzagate was SPECIFICALLY about high profile POLITICAL and politically connected elite. This was a coincidence at best and REALLY low hanging fruit. As stated elsewhere, title of thread says HIGH LEVEL ARRESTS. Up until this arrest, nobody had ever heard of the guy. So that's ONE arrest. Where's number two or more?
There's zero evidence or suggestion that Jeff Sandusky was involved in some huge circle of molesters. He wasn't "working with" anybody. He did something with his girlfriend's kid and as of now the details on WHAT haven't surfaced. All I've read so far are the heavily redacted texts so I don't know what the other charges are.
But high level? No. Not even close. Pizzagate related? No. Not even close.
we_kill_creativity ago
Yet...
And actually, there is...The Sandusky "episode" was blown up in everyone's faces, and yet, ironically, it was a cover up, pure and simple. The guy investigating Sandusky was disappeared and presumed dead, his laptop was found in a river. Sandusky's "charity" was allowed to shred their documents after he was known. This was just a high level cover up. Sandusky was a high level sacrificial lamb.
HarveyKlinger ago
You're confusing Jerry Sandusky and Jeff Sandusky. There was no cover up with Jeff Sandusky. There was also no Pizzagate investigation related to either. Jeff Sandusky got arrested because his girlfriend turned him in after seeing the texts he sent her daughter. There was NO FBI investigation or secret midnight raid.
As far as David is concerned, he's running a racket. He reports information that other people investigate and you know who the ONLY people that watch David's videos are? The same people doing the investigation who watch those videos and feel vindicated that someone is taking them seriously. He doesn't have any media clout and he's not reaching new audiences. But he IS asking for donations and promoting himself quite a bit.
we_kill_creativity ago
How do you know that? We're talking about the adopted son of pedophile who ran a children's charity for years....No cover up!?!?!?
So maybe there should be!?!?!
I didn't mention David, but ...
It is interesting that you devote most of your response to something I didn't even bring up. Changing the subject much?...
HarveyKlinger ago
Whatever. Do what you want. If you want to send him money for all of his hard work, I'm not going to stop you.
As far as Jeff Sandusky, EVERYTHING in your posts talks about Jerry. Tell me all about Jeff and how it relates to Pizzagate. ... I'll wait.
we_kill_creativity ago
AGAIN!!!!!!! I didn't say anything about David freaking Seaman. Why do you persist in bringing him up like I'm some huge supporter. I don't follow him at all.
The aggravating thing about people like who you seem to thrive off arguing the semantics and technicalities of what is and isn't pizzagate is that you seem to have such tunnel vision about this. Pizzagate is one example of a much larger phenomenon. They are taking steps to tackle the larger phenomenon, not just Pizzagate. When we see clear examples of an effort to tackle the general problem, this, naturally, involves pizzagate.
Regardless, you can respond to this, but I'm done talking to you, because I'm convinced at least half the reason you want to keep harping on about this pointless semantics argument is to derail any meaningful conversation we could otherwise be having.
samhara ago
Yes and Freeh was involved. He came in at the end to smooth everything over. Freed was the most corrupt FBI chief ever, as related by those in the Agency itself, so it is said.. He was also the orignal Prosecutor in "The Pizza Connection" trials of the '80's which were massive; with twin trials taking place in Palermo Sicly. The had to build a special stadium like jail for the trials and hire their own guards.. Likely what would have to be done here for Pizzagate if it ever go that far.. Same M.O. they Pizza Parlors for fronts for large scale Heroin business and likely other crimes.. Pull on that thread and you are there..
Freemasonsrus ago
The only thing I can say on the "possible" positive side for Seaman and his "source" is that IF Jeffrey was involved in a still functioning ring, it would certainly be a signal to the higher ups involved that the authorities are coming. But that's a huge IF and the reports so far (not that I trust the MSM) seem to imply these were more like Weinergate events. On another random note, George Webb has mentioned that he thought Paterno wasn't dead and was in Israel. I don't really buy that, but did find it really convenient that he died practically immediately after this case blew up and before he could be ensnared even more by it.