Child Protective Services here doesn't do much in my experience (as a child whose home hosted them frequently). They look around, see the Texas Chainsaw-style neglect and abuse, and say, Yup! Everything looks good! Sorry we bothered you!
I'm not sure if this is because they are overworked, they don't care in general, or they don't care about people they have already deemed to be trash for one reason or another.
You could very well have a case of a pic of an underage nude girl qualifying as porn on a given hard drive without the user being aware of it.
No. I've heard that story before. Child abuse is a serious crime. Anyone who is engaging in porn needs to take that seriously. If they don't question and research the age, then they are responsible cause nobody else is forcing them to click on the buttons. The problem is that it's so addictive that the little head clicks without the big head engaging any brains or common sense. No point in shifting the responsibility. If a guy wants to engage then they need to take whatever consequences and results come. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time, but don't blame somebody else for something they need to take adult responsibility for. Anybody who doesn't have enough self control or brains to notice that their viewing someone who looks like a teen should put a porn block on their computer. aaaah, but that would cause problems for the addiction.
“There are some victims out there and some families of victims who think that when a sexual offense is committed or you have a violent sexual predator they should be locked up for life and then you’ve got other people who believe more in grace and redemption,” said Norment.
What type of redemption is he talking about? Any decent psychologist will tell him that sex addictions, specifically of this nature, have very low rehabilitation success rates. Geez, even Dr. Drew knows that.
I didn't start a new thread for this because the mods would probably delete it, but John Dubois, the Vice Mayor of Palmetto Bay, Florida, allowed a pedophile who sexually abused at least three children to stay in his house for two months, because the man (Stanley "Junior" Kowlessar) was a family friend of his. He also held a fund-raising barbecue to help pay for Kowlessar's defense. Despite the scandal, he was re-elected in November.
He's just looking to minimize his time in jail. He knows We the People aren't gonna quit until we drain the swamp of pedophile politicians, organized crime, human trafficking, organ harvesting, satanic rituals, corruption, treason and racketeering. DON'T STOP DIGGING!
Well, I am not condoning that kind of entrapment. I think he should be investigated first, then if there is some suspicion of guilt. I believe in people's rights, but believe that the rights of victims have been eroding.
It is. And @Enigmatic_Continuum is right about VA Tech. They are aggressive about pursuing things that strengthen their alliances and line their pockets. Not too concerned about the welfare of actual people.
He needs to be set up. With a secret trap with a kid or something. They do this all the time. I don't know how they do this without them calling it entrapment. But it has been done. People in Va. need to call this guys office and protest NOW.
Um they aren't talking about CP.
They are talking about the PRODUCTION of CP (Whatever that is).
But if it includes forcing children into having sex, then it should be a hell of a lot longer than 2 years.
YES! Do you know what that would do to a child by using them to have sex with other children or adults, it can make them a pedophile for life and continue the sick practice. This is what they want to perpetuate. It must be stopped.
“Virginia’s known as one of the best states at protecting children from exploitation and so we’re at where it should be and we should not go backwards,” McGuire said.
Misleading post headline. This asshole wants to reduce punishment for PRODUCTION of child porn.
That said, unpopular opinion time. Possession and viewing of child porn shouldn't be a crime that will land you in jail for the following reasons.
Child porn is a weapon. With the capabilities of our intelligence agencies child porn can be planted and then "found" on your computing devices to put you away for a very long time.
I'd rather have a pedo jerking it to child porn than inviting kids into his van. The damage is already done, what is the point in punishing someone that is mitigating their degenerate desires through this?
Don't get me wrong, the people that view this type of content are fucking degenerates and have a special place in hell. At most I think they should be chemically castrated. On the other hand, production of the content should be punishable by death.
You are a shill. Pedo jerking it to child porn means children have to be abused to produce said child porn. Pedos will always try to act on their depraved impulses. They will be jerking and inviting kids to their van. People involved with child porn should be put under the prison
Good. We need to protect those that cannot protect themselves. This country has gone amok with protecting those that do wrong. It is very easy to avoid prosecution or jail time. Admit your problem and get help. Stay away from children and keep your hands to yourself and your pats zipped.
spare me... Dennis Hastert,heard of him? Hillary hating Fox News not investigating, why is that? Btw, where the hell is the Republican Congress in the face of all this overwhelming information ?
Who was being pushed by the GOP before Trump took over the race ( it was JEB! ) and who chanted #nevertrump throughout the election ?
The hope of an investigation hinges on ONE MAN > TRUMP And we still don't know where he stands.
I think it's pretty obvious he doesn't stand with them otherwise they (repubs and dems) wouldnt hate him so much. And if he had pedo stuff in his closet it would have come out before the election.
I agree... but his comment about Virginia is 100% false. It's a haven for child abductors. Shit, they don't even have half the pics of the abducted children!! Being the cynic, I see long sentences working very nicely if a pedo ring wanted to frame and silence those who threaten the infrastructure or former ring members turned whistle blowers.
“Virginia’s known as one of the best states at protecting children from exploitation and so we’re at where it should be and we should not go backwards,” McGuire said .
excuse me but..... YOU LEAD THE GOD DAMN NATION IN CHILD ABDUCTIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!
Wants to reduce punishment for child abuse.
I think we need to stop calling it porn. It's like people hear it refered to as porn and just think, "Oh, that's a gross kink," and forget that it involves children being abused.
Don't forget the FBI agent who's wife suddenly decided to run for office and then magically received a ton of money from Hillary. Then her FBI husband magically had a lot to do with the Hillary email crimes cover-up. She's a pediatrician.
McCabe? Here is a podcast that i think discusses the bribe you refer to...http://www.globalresearch.ca/fraud-and-corruption-probing-the-clinton-record/5555222
Wonder what is in his closet.....anyone who can defend child porn in any shape, form or fashion has to be a pedo in my opinion.....or profit from it some how.
Wtf are you talking about? Pedos should be not allowed to ever go near children, and filming many children being raped is worse than actually raping one child. Fucking shill faggot.
Yeah. I love the way that Louisa Co. Commonwealth's attorney says, "Virginia’s known as one of the best states at protecting children from exploitation." Riiiight. Maybe, "best states at producing children for exploitation..."
alanna ago
Guilty
shoosh ago
Go to bed sparky. It's late.
dustyr ago
Give him a buzz cut he could be Pedosta's brother. I think I'm getting another sense, I just look at this bastard & get the creeps.
VIrginiaPerson ago
Child Protective Services here doesn't do much in my experience (as a child whose home hosted them frequently). They look around, see the Texas Chainsaw-style neglect and abuse, and say, Yup! Everything looks good! Sorry we bothered you!
I'm not sure if this is because they are overworked, they don't care in general, or they don't care about people they have already deemed to be trash for one reason or another.
shoosh ago
You could very well have a case of a pic of an underage nude girl qualifying as porn on a given hard drive without the user being aware of it.
No. I've heard that story before. Child abuse is a serious crime. Anyone who is engaging in porn needs to take that seriously. If they don't question and research the age, then they are responsible cause nobody else is forcing them to click on the buttons. The problem is that it's so addictive that the little head clicks without the big head engaging any brains or common sense. No point in shifting the responsibility. If a guy wants to engage then they need to take whatever consequences and results come. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time, but don't blame somebody else for something they need to take adult responsibility for. Anybody who doesn't have enough self control or brains to notice that their viewing someone who looks like a teen should put a porn block on their computer. aaaah, but that would cause problems for the addiction.
shoosh ago
“There are some victims out there and some families of victims who think that when a sexual offense is committed or you have a violent sexual predator they should be locked up for life and then you’ve got other people who believe more in grace and redemption,” said Norment.
What type of redemption is he talking about? Any decent psychologist will tell him that sex addictions, specifically of this nature, have very low rehabilitation success rates. Geez, even Dr. Drew knows that.
Exern ago
Funny considering how this guy has represented pedophiles in the past and has gotten their sentences reduced. http://tarrant.tx.networkofcare.org/dv/news-article-detail.aspx?id=66431 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2012/02/23/ms-13-gang-banger-convicted-on-slavery-charges/
zoltan907 ago
I didn't start a new thread for this because the mods would probably delete it, but John Dubois, the Vice Mayor of Palmetto Bay, Florida, allowed a pedophile who sexually abused at least three children to stay in his house for two months, because the man (Stanley "Junior" Kowlessar) was a family friend of his. He also held a fund-raising barbecue to help pay for Kowlessar's defense. Despite the scandal, he was re-elected in November.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/11/01/palmetto-vice-mayor-not-sorry-for-supporting-accused-pedophile/
http://archive.is/bqQwS
Gone20 ago
Oh yeah you have insight into the minds of all republican voters? Are you professor x???
ravensedgesom ago
this type of cultural and politcal corruption agenda has to halted once and for all
banenya ago
He's just looking to minimize his time in jail. He knows We the People aren't gonna quit until we drain the swamp of pedophile politicians, organized crime, human trafficking, organ harvesting, satanic rituals, corruption, treason and racketeering. DON'T STOP DIGGING!
Z11Mama ago
Virginia, again. This state needs focused on far more heavily by investigator's.
carmencita ago
Well, I am not condoning that kind of entrapment. I think he should be investigated first, then if there is some suspicion of guilt. I believe in people's rights, but believe that the rights of victims have been eroding.
HashTagFU ago
What the fuck is wrong with this guy? He must think he's about to be caught.
VIrginiaPerson ago
It is. And @Enigmatic_Continuum is right about VA Tech. They are aggressive about pursuing things that strengthen their alliances and line their pockets. Not too concerned about the welfare of actual people.
carmencita ago
He needs to be set up. With a secret trap with a kid or something. They do this all the time. I don't know how they do this without them calling it entrapment. But it has been done. People in Va. need to call this guys office and protest NOW.
SChalice ago
Um they aren't talking about CP. They are talking about the PRODUCTION of CP (Whatever that is). But if it includes forcing children into having sex, then it should be a hell of a lot longer than 2 years.
carmencita ago
YES! Do you know what that would do to a child by using them to have sex with other children or adults, it can make them a pedophile for life and continue the sick practice. This is what they want to perpetuate. It must be stopped.
cakeoflightylight ago
do they deserve any less?
cakeoflightylight ago
“Virginia’s known as one of the best states at protecting children from exploitation and so we’re at where it should be and we should not go backwards,” McGuire said.
um... really???
green_man ago
Misleading post headline. This asshole wants to reduce punishment for PRODUCTION of child porn.
That said, unpopular opinion time. Possession and viewing of child porn shouldn't be a crime that will land you in jail for the following reasons.
Child porn is a weapon. With the capabilities of our intelligence agencies child porn can be planted and then "found" on your computing devices to put you away for a very long time.
I'd rather have a pedo jerking it to child porn than inviting kids into his van. The damage is already done, what is the point in punishing someone that is mitigating their degenerate desires through this?
Don't get me wrong, the people that view this type of content are fucking degenerates and have a special place in hell. At most I think they should be chemically castrated. On the other hand, production of the content should be punishable by death.
herbsmoke ago
You are a shill. Pedo jerking it to child porn means children have to be abused to produce said child porn. Pedos will always try to act on their depraved impulses. They will be jerking and inviting kids to their van. People involved with child porn should be put under the prison
SChalice ago
The length of federal child pornography sentences has increased 500 percent in the last 15 years.
http://famm.org/affected-families/child-pornography-sentences/
In some jurisdictions, possession of child porn, and only possession, can land you in prison for a decade.
carmencita ago
Good. We need to protect those that cannot protect themselves. This country has gone amok with protecting those that do wrong. It is very easy to avoid prosecution or jail time. Admit your problem and get help. Stay away from children and keep your hands to yourself and your pats zipped.
remedy4reality ago
downvoated for using 'cuck' and wrongly insinuating politics divides pedophiles
Gone20 ago
It's sad and funny at the same time. Trump supporters we out of their minds. They think this is a partisan issue. It's nuts.
Don-Keyhote ago
Is that why all hope of even an official nvestigation hinged on the Democrat not winning
remedy4reality ago
spare me... Dennis Hastert,heard of him? Hillary hating Fox News not investigating, why is that? Btw, where the hell is the Republican Congress in the face of all this overwhelming information ?
Who was being pushed by the GOP before Trump took over the race ( it was JEB! ) and who chanted #nevertrump throughout the election ?
The hope of an investigation hinges on ONE MAN > TRUMP And we still don't know where he stands.
Dasistnichtgut ago
I think it's pretty obvious he doesn't stand with them otherwise they (repubs and dems) wouldnt hate him so much. And if he had pedo stuff in his closet it would have come out before the election.
remedy4reality ago
I agree... but his comment about Virginia is 100% false. It's a haven for child abductors. Shit, they don't even have half the pics of the abducted children!! Being the cynic, I see long sentences working very nicely if a pedo ring wanted to frame and silence those who threaten the infrastructure or former ring members turned whistle blowers.
jangles ago
Commonwealth University is KEY to Pizzagate.
remedy4reality ago
he also claimed Virginia was a leader in protecting children
My bullshit detector is peaking on Mr. McGuire.
SturdyGal ago
Very savvy comment.
Gone20 ago
You do realize republicans are pedos too right? Right???
User890020 ago
loll just one more sign that PZG "isn't real"
Gone20 ago
State senator.
remedy4reality ago
“Virginia’s known as one of the best states at protecting children from exploitation and so we’re at where it should be and we should not go backwards,” McGuire said .
excuse me but..... YOU LEAD THE GOD DAMN NATION IN CHILD ABDUCTIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!
SturdyGal ago
@VirginiaPerson Many thanks for posting this!
quantokitty ago
Virginia again. No wonder kids are disappearing. Maybe Norment (rhymes with Torment) wants to reduce the sentence for that, too.
waxdino ago
Wants to reduce punishment for child abuse.
I think we need to stop calling it porn. It's like people hear it refered to as porn and just think, "Oh, that's a gross kink," and forget that it involves children being abused.
EarlPoncho ago
the senate majority leader is mitch mcconnell
VIrginiaPerson ago
Yeah sorry, I didn't realize I hadn't included that until it already posted. I don't know how to edit it.
carmencita ago
This is of the State of Virginia, not the Federal Govt.
FriesischShipping ago
Should be doing the opposite.
Bouchart ago
This is the Virginia State Senate. Not Feds.
VIrginiaPerson ago
My bad I should have clarified in the title. I'll see if I can figure out how to edit it.
Gone20 ago
They love misleading and sensational titles here. It's kinda like watching Fox News or CNN.
remedy4reality ago
I was not confused... it would have been a much better headline if he pointed out that this was indeed Virginia
Gone20 ago
He wouldn't have got nearly as much attention if he had.
Orange_Circle ago
Don't forget the FBI agent who's wife suddenly decided to run for office and then magically received a ton of money from Hillary. Then her FBI husband magically had a lot to do with the Hillary email crimes cover-up. She's a pediatrician.
Lovethelight ago
McCabe? Here is a podcast that i think discusses the bribe you refer to...http://www.globalresearch.ca/fraud-and-corruption-probing-the-clinton-record/5555222
cakeoflightylight ago
ew probably diddles kids in the office daily
Bitchybadger ago
Dr. Earl Bradley of Delaware is in jail for that evil shit. He molested his innocent patients.
Gammi ago
Wonder what is in his closet.....anyone who can defend child porn in any shape, form or fashion has to be a pedo in my opinion.....or profit from it some how.
gosso920 ago
A collection of child porn, no doubt.
islandofdelight ago
dafuck? So effectively this guy Tommy Norment either is a child pornographer, a pedophile or has ties to them somehow. No way to justify this.
followthemoney ago
Well, the problem with the punishments is that they are often worse than actual child sex abuse punishments.
You can never go near a child and spend longer in jail than some9ne who raped one.
BoraxTheFungarian ago
You're right, let's make all the punishments for pedophilia equal... Death by hanging from the genetalia.
herbsmoke ago
Wtf are you talking about? Pedos should be not allowed to ever go near children, and filming many children being raped is worse than actually raping one child. Fucking shill faggot.
projection ago
That's it. Nothing more to say.
ArthurEdens ago
Virginia
VIrginiaPerson ago
Yeah. I love the way that Louisa Co. Commonwealth's attorney says, "Virginia’s known as one of the best states at protecting children from exploitation." Riiiight. Maybe, "best states at producing children for exploitation..."