I have confronted this shill in many places. Look at the history of the poster, who is constantly trying to push off legitimate leads. This individual also makes claims without support if you actually bother to look. I have, and you will see that most of what they post is full of holes. If you are uncertain when someone points out a troll, just look at the history of both involved to see the truth.
stating that you have been in a fight with someone many times doesn't mean that you are right. legitimate leads are proven by objective supporting evidence. not who shouts the loudest/longest. I have looked at the claims in the post above, and it seems reasonable to question credibility. You still haven't given one single objective fact to support your claims. you have some good posts, and I encourage you to practice what you preach.
Be careful what we push - try to verify and validate before passing along information from unconfirmed sources
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1468638
I get it. Then please spend some time with the same argument directly with @armyseer. I did not initiate this but was responding to @armyseer making an unwarranted attack against the poster. I did not initiate it but was pointing out that @armyseer gives all the appearances of a caution troll from all the evidence I have seen, constantly saying: "Nothing here. This is disinfo, trust me. Move along."Look deeply at his posting history to see if you agree. He may just be overly skeptical and not CTR, but he dismisses things very easily, some of which I have investigated and found to be credible.
ok, I will spend some time reviewing armyseer posts and consider your perspective. if you can give me any examples of something you found credible that armyseer discredited, that would be helpful. otherwise I will look into it myself. thank you for a good dialogue.
OK. The post he was questioning (the thread we are in now) is one example. Go to this thread (https://voat.co/v/pizzagateshills/1531628)), which is where you can find MANY good investigators based on their contributions. One example is @HopingToHelp, who I know has posted many worthwhile submissions and comments. He attacks @Pizzagategear and many others here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagateshills/1541317. If you dig, I think you will see that is he will hastily dismiss arguments or people, without much or any substance. He may be well-intentioned and not CTR, which is where I sit right now on him, but I was responding to his quick dismissal of the OP here.
Thank you, I will follow up on this. I reasoned armyseer was not CTR based on, among other things, the lack of activity in the pizzagateshills sub. I would expect more active people if it was a co-ordinated CTR effort.
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reasonedandinformed ago
You are a known CTR shill, @armyseer, so just shut up now! Everyone else, this verifies authenticity of something worthy of more attention.
justanotherpizza ago
please show your reasoning. armseer is providing the reasoning for claims made. telling someone to shut up does not make you look good.
reasonedandinformed ago
I have confronted this shill in many places. Look at the history of the poster, who is constantly trying to push off legitimate leads. This individual also makes claims without support if you actually bother to look. I have, and you will see that most of what they post is full of holes. If you are uncertain when someone points out a troll, just look at the history of both involved to see the truth.
justanotherpizza ago
stating that you have been in a fight with someone many times doesn't mean that you are right. legitimate leads are proven by objective supporting evidence. not who shouts the loudest/longest. I have looked at the claims in the post above, and it seems reasonable to question credibility. You still haven't given one single objective fact to support your claims. you have some good posts, and I encourage you to practice what you preach.
Be careful what we push - try to verify and validate before passing along information from unconfirmed sources https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1468638
reasonedandinformed ago
I get it. Then please spend some time with the same argument directly with @armyseer. I did not initiate this but was responding to @armyseer making an unwarranted attack against the poster. I did not initiate it but was pointing out that @armyseer gives all the appearances of a caution troll from all the evidence I have seen, constantly saying: "Nothing here. This is disinfo, trust me. Move along."Look deeply at his posting history to see if you agree. He may just be overly skeptical and not CTR, but he dismisses things very easily, some of which I have investigated and found to be credible.
justanotherpizza ago
ok, I will spend some time reviewing armyseer posts and consider your perspective. if you can give me any examples of something you found credible that armyseer discredited, that would be helpful. otherwise I will look into it myself. thank you for a good dialogue.
reasonedandinformed ago
OK. The post he was questioning (the thread we are in now) is one example. Go to this thread (https://voat.co/v/pizzagateshills/1531628)), which is where you can find MANY good investigators based on their contributions. One example is @HopingToHelp, who I know has posted many worthwhile submissions and comments. He attacks @Pizzagategear and many others here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagateshills/1541317. If you dig, I think you will see that is he will hastily dismiss arguments or people, without much or any substance. He may be well-intentioned and not CTR, which is where I sit right now on him, but I was responding to his quick dismissal of the OP here.
justanotherpizza ago
Thank you, I will follow up on this. I reasoned armyseer was not CTR based on, among other things, the lack of activity in the pizzagateshills sub. I would expect more active people if it was a co-ordinated CTR effort.