Thanks for you post. I say the same thing all the time, and then tons of ignorant people start jumping all over me simply because they want a witch hunt that revolves around their beliefs and they refuse to do their own investigations or to simply look at the facts.

The idea behind derailing a group or movement, is to mix lies with truth, and then use lots of vague information while playing on peoples fears and hate. That's exactly what all the popular mainstream news did, as well as any independent news sources that didn't stick completely to the facts. Again, thanks for your topic to draw attention to this.

Use public wifi at a small mom-n-pop shop with your phone/laptop and turn location services off. Don't stick around for too long and rotate between places, never return to visited wifis- your IP/MAC address can be flagged and tracked if its NSA level interest.

When posting new good leads/info, do it fast and leave the area.

Just practice common sense and Never upload damning info from your home, unless you know what your doing. This may be overkill but i always say its better safe than sorry. Goodluck and Godspeed.

Edit: these are non technical approaches to protecting your privacy/anonymity. Its always wise to use a VPN (virtual private network) its really helps and its free and effective for protection. I recommend CyberGhost.

If you can, Put up a master list of what info needs scrutinizing and we can have it stickied and constantly updated as we go through them.

This way we can have more people look at new potential leads and info at a greater rate. Splitting the work.

If someone finds something that points to a better lead, we can collectively agree to update it, same for bad info- highlight it out as disinfo, deadend, etc. We'll have a system in place.

It's not just investigators we need but also people who can organize our best info while eliminating the bad. Theres undoubtably a bunch of info that still needs sifting through. Everyone can help to some degree. This can be made into a mult tier operation to organize it more effieciantly

This is what I was worried about. They could promote misinformation then debunk it all as if it is the proof we have.

I saw several attempts at disinformation. They seemed too amazing to be true, and fell apart quickly when investigated. On two of these, a reverse image search showed them coming from godlikeproductions.com and no where else. Maybe somebody was duped and uploaded them at that site, or maybe there are disinformation folk there. If you see something that looks like a smoking gun or a bombshell, always check it out before passing it along.

This should be a required sticky. I have seen a bunch of false leads pushed with bogus sources, this is the best way to discredit what is going on here and show it in a bad light. Be very careful to verify what you find here, the opposition literally wrote the book on how to destroy grass roots movements on the internet they don't want seen.

It's already happening. I post a confirmation that the CPP gunman was never a "gunman" in something called "Something about pizza" and it gets buried by people who want to speculate that the director is in on it. People have started suggesting that Jake Tapper should be investigated because he is getting angry about the fact that numerous people he knows are accused of serious crimes against children, because NOBODY would get angry about that if they weren't in on it, or something.

I took a long break from pizzagate when it was on Reddit because of precisely this anti-fact, pro-speculation bullshit taking over. I fear it is now happening again. I don't know if it's active interference from shills or just passive interference from all the mentally unhinged people that unfortunately infest these kinds of investigations. I just hope the trend doesn't continue or we'll be more quickly undone by ourselves than by anyone else.

We need a thread for all these stuff ASAP, if we are flooded with disinformation and don't react we will drown.

I was thinking about some of the disinfo involved in the case. Remember in the beginning when the paintings of "Ria Pratt" were presented as somehow being connected to Comet Ping Pong? Title HereWell, apparently they weren't. Those are paintings from a woman who claims to have suffered ritual abuse as a child. I remember hearing someone ranting about how "sick" the art was, as if it was a promotion of it, instead of a depiction of the very thing we're all talking about.

This post should be sticky: it addresses the problem with the wikipedia article, in which it says "conspiracy theory debunked" without reffering to these evidences (doesnt deny that the instagram photos were not of alofantis, it just point the legal issue with using a personal instagram account as evidence)

Absolutely correct. People believe what they want to believe. Everyone of us. Only few are aware of this and actively are questioning themselfes by not believing, but asking for facts, even if something sounds very true.

With that knowledge in mind, that people believe what they want to believe, we have following fact:

That most people strongly believing in PIZZAGATE will tend to believe claims that it's real.

And those people who do not believe in PIZZAGATE will tend to believe claims that it's fake.

What happens at court, if among dozens of very important arguments, the witness bring up one claim that is false? Exactly that false claim will be taken to show, that this person per se cannot be trusted! No matter how good and verifiable all other arguments are, the jurors will no longer listen to the rest what this person says (if they want him to be convicted - confirmation bias).

Therefore it is so important to stick to VERIFIABLE FACTS.

DO NOT BELIEVE ANYONE! ONLY TRUST IN FACTS. There are by far enough facts out there, to demand an investigation. There is no need to make things up or exaggerate things.

Be aware those who want to avoid an investigation, will spread fake arguments to discredit the whole thing!

Keep feelings out, be logical and stick to verifiable facts. Imagine you are in front of a judge and are presenting what you have. You would never dare to claim a theory as fact, because then the case would be lost. Only because you tried to make things up, nobody will listen to you anymore.

Yes, it's for this reason that I am ok with mods being strict and a bit authoritarian. We need to maintain high standards for evidence. Do your research people, this is not the time and place for shitposts.

You are exactly right. The number 1 tool they will used to attack us is infiltration of fake evidence and sensational "tinfoil hat" theories. This is long-standing strategy of theirs. They used the same strategy to discredit 9/11 researchers. Matter of fact, there is a front-page post currently promoting Ted Gunderson, a former FBI disinfo shill.

Ted Gunderson's goal was actually to discredit claims of elite pedophile rings (and claims about 9/11) by introducing fake evidence, "poisoning the well," giving talks to groups of conspiracy researches to get them to adopt bad evidence and false "tinfoil hat" versions of their theories (e.g. "no planes on 9/11"), in order to discredit the true general claims (e.g. 9/11 = inside job) with the general public. He promoted the claim that there were NO PLANES on 9/11, and he promoted the McMartin Preschool case as an example of an elite pedophile ring. The McMartin case is a well-known case of false allegations. The mother who made the initial allegations was crazy. She based it on her son having disrupted bowel movements. The jury exonerated the accused because video showed the interviewers basically coercing the toddlers into saying they were abused, using leading questions that violated California guidelines at the time. One of the kids sent an apology to the LA times as an adult. That case was the real case of false memories that spawned the whole concept.

This is important info to share, I've found when I point out false or faulty leads I get called a shill when all I want to do is boost our credibility.