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rail606 ago

Spot on with your description of satanism. People think the satanism thing is all some joke or religious tie in that doesn't fit. Those people clearly know nothing of spirituality and theology. They know nothing of how it came to be. The answers/scripture come from within through meditation and spiritual visions. It is pretty idiotic to completely write off the paranormal we can all experience through knowledge and practice of meditation, trances, exploration of your mind and consciousness/other states(psychedelics come to mind.)

Also FYI just because the Kabbalah comes from Jewish Mysticism it is no longer inherently Jewish in this day and age. Plenty of gentiles practicing ritualistic/ceremonial magick these days. The idea that you can put your will out into the universe and it will attempt to answer it is a slippery slope. This is where manipulation/greed start to take hold of a modern day Satanist. They get drunk with the idea that they can change the outcome through rituals. The bigger/more exciting the ritual the more energy your will(magick) will have. This leads to ritual abuse and sacrifice.

Christians actually practice Kabbalah magick every Sunday. Those are rituals and they are performing magick without even realizing it. Except they often pray that whatever Gods will so be it. Not really putting your will out there more or less telling God you trust it. Some people will pray for others. But a majority of Christians never pray for themselves. Trusting Gods plan even if you are in a shitty spot and doing everything right is the Christian thing to do. This is why the Satanists hate us. We are a a bastardization of there rituals/faith and we don't ask for anything other then Gods good will.

lectorleoni ago

The influence of Pythagorean and Oriental pagan mysticism on Kabbalah is pretty undeniable. I doubt that it is actually Jewish in origin. There are many recorded instances in the Old Testament of the Jewish people turning to the idols of their pagan neighbors and embracing magick. Kabbalah is really no different.

rail606 ago

While I agree they got some of the ideas from Pagans it is the Jewish race that really perfected rituals/ceremonial magick. It is also the language we got Satanist from. They have the most grandiose rituals and are the most secretive/tribal(stick together) race.

The only people on the planet not doing much magick in this day and age are Atheists. Yet even they put curses on people. "I hope that guy breaks his fucking legs" ect. You are telling the universe/god that you would like that to happen. This is magick and a bad way to think. This is why Jesus taught turn the other cheek. Be the bigger man. Don't hope for harm to befell your brothers and sisters. Be careful what you wish for!

lectorleoni ago

Well, I suppose it depends on how we define our terms. Aleister Crowley was a kind of atheist. Most of the (very few) Thelemites I have known were agnostics or Pyrrhonian skeptics. Magick also is an equivocal term. It is either the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with the will, or else it is the exercise of super-human abilities with the aid of a power other than the divine. Everyone has some form of religion, for whatever one loves above all things, the same is one's god.

The Jews had the most perfect system of ritual ceremony because they received it from God. They only had to keep it intact to remain perfect. It is my firm belief that all other religious and theosophical systems were imitators or simulacra of the original. Sed corruptio optima est pessima; choosing the simulacra having already known the true God, is the beginning of how they became the deicide race.

DL4L ago

Again, I don't think a granular level discussion of the varieties of schools of thought surrounding magick is going to enhance the credibility of this post nor add value to it in the context that it has been presented. Such a topic, while intriguing and important, should be taken elsewhere in my opinion.

lectorleoni ago

I see your point. Since it is interesting, perhaps I'll address it under separate cover.