Who is contacting him? This absolutely has to stop.
However, I will say, that we know Alefantis is a very HEAVY HANDED intimidator - he could very well have made CC feel quite unsafe. The kid may have gotten one of those texting/phone calls, and may have been instructed to go on Facebook, show his acting chops, and deny everything in order to feel safe again. Just take a look at this again to remember that Alefantis is more than a nice pizza guy/weird doco producer. https://www.discogs.com/artist/5471509-James-Alefantis
This response does prove 1) Alefantis/crew arranged for Crocker to visit the WH 2) Alefantis met Crocker before this WH date 3) Alefantis/crew picked up this teen viral and attractive sensation (a "chicken" type, no disrespect intended), began handling him by offering him "fame" though a documentary, then toured him around to different cities for openings and premiers. Sounds like handling a hot property to me.
Later this person becomes a porno star. Seems almost anything Alefantis touches turns into money-for-sex at some point, doesn't it.
Also if mind control were involved in any way, Crocker might very well not remember what happened on that visit. I'm not saying this happened, or is likely, but every possiblity must be considered.
The volume of incriminating information being circulated and reported on, is massive.... That's my excuse for asking the following question.... Fucking james is IN the band heavy breathing? I know that they played at comet, and that james was speculated as being amanda klieman... But is there a simply, definitive answer to the question, "Is james achilles alefantis, in the band, HEavy Breathing.?"
again yes. IMO he acts as a producer. He doesn't do the "house pedo parties" with the band but produces the material. Amanda Kleinman is Majestic Ape's "beard" so to speak. Alefantis likely considers himself the true "Majestic Ape" in line with his ego. He also considers himself an artist.
Wait... You're not saying "again" to me specifically, right? If so I didn't see your first comment.... But do you have a source on any of that ? Not saying you're wrong... I'd just like to have a source before factoring this into any thing... I Know the connect to the band obviously, But is there a source that indicates he is involved as a band member or producer?
I can say that he is at least intimately involved with producing the videos - his best friend that french guy is I believe the "Pedo Perv" in I No Luv. Amanda Beard (Edit:oops freudian slip - I mean Amanda Kleinman) acts as his beard and takes his role as dominator. He is pictured subliminally on a quick picture shot with his head on a tongue in another video.
As band member there is the link that I provided but The Puppet Show questions. I'm talking about this page - https://www.discogs.com/artist/5471509-James-Alefantis I dont' know about the proceedure TPS used to document the date of that web page but if he is correct it does call into question its validity, however I argue that Alefantis himself could have put that out, as he is a supreme egoist and when he sees all the views and talk about Heavy Breathing, he just may want the credit because he does consider himself an artist. It doesn't have to have been a trolling page as TPS says it 100% absolute certainty and no proof because "TPS knows". I don't trust TPS because of how he argues, with such certainty and so dismissively, even after all this time with a lot of connections to Alefantis, the Majestic Ape mask, and the band as a house band at CPP. If he is CTR he may have himself whipped up that page that shows when the page was created.
ThePuppetShow also asks - even if it was Alefantis what does it matter? This is the most CTR shill position you can take. It MATTERS because
1. Alefantis would be incontrovertably connected to pedophilia imagery and associations
2. Alefantis would not just be the nice pizza guy who spends all his time on community philanthropy like he tries to say about himself. He is the creator if deeply disturbing pedo oriented art at the very least.
3. It may be the beginning of peeling back a CIA MK Ultra unit of production and activity, aimed at the political class in DC
There are probably other reasons It could matter and to have to spell it out seems ridiculous but okay I guess everything needs to be 'splained like someone reading is 5 (not you, ThePuppetShow TPS) so there it is.
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VieBleu ago
Who is contacting him? This absolutely has to stop.
However, I will say, that we know Alefantis is a very HEAVY HANDED intimidator - he could very well have made CC feel quite unsafe. The kid may have gotten one of those texting/phone calls, and may have been instructed to go on Facebook, show his acting chops, and deny everything in order to feel safe again. Just take a look at this again to remember that Alefantis is more than a nice pizza guy/weird doco producer. https://www.discogs.com/artist/5471509-James-Alefantis
This response does prove 1) Alefantis/crew arranged for Crocker to visit the WH 2) Alefantis met Crocker before this WH date 3) Alefantis/crew picked up this teen viral and attractive sensation (a "chicken" type, no disrespect intended), began handling him by offering him "fame" though a documentary, then toured him around to different cities for openings and premiers. Sounds like handling a hot property to me.
Later this person becomes a porno star. Seems almost anything Alefantis touches turns into money-for-sex at some point, doesn't it.
Also if mind control were involved in any way, Crocker might very well not remember what happened on that visit. I'm not saying this happened, or is likely, but every possiblity must be considered.
Just sayin'
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
The volume of incriminating information being circulated and reported on, is massive.... That's my excuse for asking the following question.... Fucking james is IN the band heavy breathing? I know that they played at comet, and that james was speculated as being amanda klieman... But is there a simply, definitive answer to the question, "Is james achilles alefantis, in the band, HEavy Breathing.?"
ThePuppetShow ago
No.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
i know. I answerd my question, in another comment. Should have kept reading before making the comment you're saying "no" to.
VieBleu ago
again yes. IMO he acts as a producer. He doesn't do the "house pedo parties" with the band but produces the material. Amanda Kleinman is Majestic Ape's "beard" so to speak. Alefantis likely considers himself the true "Majestic Ape" in line with his ego. He also considers himself an artist.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
Wait... You're not saying "again" to me specifically, right? If so I didn't see your first comment.... But do you have a source on any of that ? Not saying you're wrong... I'd just like to have a source before factoring this into any thing... I Know the connect to the band obviously, But is there a source that indicates he is involved as a band member or producer?
VieBleu ago
This is all a tricky question - as far as producer, I can tell you no there is no source for that. That is and always has been my theory. It may be good for you to look at these if you haven't before - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1453400 and https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1472527
I can say that he is at least intimately involved with producing the videos - his best friend that french guy is I believe the "Pedo Perv" in I No Luv. Amanda Beard (Edit:oops freudian slip - I mean Amanda Kleinman) acts as his beard and takes his role as dominator. He is pictured subliminally on a quick picture shot with his head on a tongue in another video.
As band member there is the link that I provided but The Puppet Show questions. I'm talking about this page - https://www.discogs.com/artist/5471509-James-Alefantis I dont' know about the proceedure TPS used to document the date of that web page but if he is correct it does call into question its validity, however I argue that Alefantis himself could have put that out, as he is a supreme egoist and when he sees all the views and talk about Heavy Breathing, he just may want the credit because he does consider himself an artist. It doesn't have to have been a trolling page as TPS says it 100% absolute certainty and no proof because "TPS knows". I don't trust TPS because of how he argues, with such certainty and so dismissively, even after all this time with a lot of connections to Alefantis, the Majestic Ape mask, and the band as a house band at CPP. If he is CTR he may have himself whipped up that page that shows when the page was created.
ThePuppetShow also asks - even if it was Alefantis what does it matter? This is the most CTR shill position you can take. It MATTERS because 1. Alefantis would be incontrovertably connected to pedophilia imagery and associations 2. Alefantis would not just be the nice pizza guy who spends all his time on community philanthropy like he tries to say about himself. He is the creator if deeply disturbing pedo oriented art at the very least. 3. It may be the beginning of peeling back a CIA MK Ultra unit of production and activity, aimed at the political class in DC
There are probably other reasons It could matter and to have to spell it out seems ridiculous but okay I guess everything needs to be 'splained like someone reading is 5 (not you, ThePuppetShow TPS) so there it is.