Three things.
1) There seems to be a new picture of her wearing a "pizza slut" shirt which everyone should be aware of. It's very incriminating: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1561226
2) (speculation) James Alefantis referred to her as his "Goddaughter". Of course, this may be true, and like the rest of our investigation, everything is built on speculation and possibility. A lot of us certainly hope that we are wrong. Assuming, however, that we are not wrong, then there's this thing about liars -- they are like building their lies around grains of truths. It is safer to build your lies around grains of truth. If he is lying, then the grain of truth about his relationship may be the fact that he participated with this girl is some ritualistic pseudo-religious ceremony.
3) The kids in a lot of the Instagram photos have bags under their eyes. It is not normal for kids to have bags under their eyes, and it seems that the most common cause is allergies. More information about how to diagnose this is welcome.
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SlackeryTurnBull ago
There is no proof that the girl in the pizza slut t shirt is Caris James. I think the pizza slut photo was found in the avalanche of random questionable pizza images on the net.
Fateswebb ago
Carisjames refers to James alefantis not the girl in the photos. I think he nicknamed himself that because of the date rape drug he uses or maybe for another reason, but it bugs me when people call this girl that.
zoltan907 ago
One of her family members identified her as Caris Cummings in FB photos. Whether James is her middle name or not is speculation based on Alefantis's frequent use of "#carisjames."
http://archive.is/6TQpB
http://archive.is/PWiDf
http://archive.is/c1kF8
zoltan907 ago
Further evidence: An obituary for Elsie Ford Owen, which states: "Also surviving are great and great, great nephews and nieces, including Michael, Scott, Mae, Caris, and Quinlyn Cummings..."
http://archive.is/cZCXR
SlackeryTurnBull ago
"Caris" means love in Greek. What kind of name is Alefantis again? Greek. It is most likely the girl's name, or at least has not been proven otherwise at all. Why are you trying to spread disinfo?
Fateswebb ago
Wait, trying to spread disinformation when I am asking people to stop assuming that is this girls name? Wow!!! How about then explaining why he has used the carisjames hashtag on photos that do not contain this young girl? Funny how you're the one making assumptions and even admit you are, and then call me out for spreading disinformation simply because I asked you not to make assumptions. So do explain why James would tag other photos with the same hashtag when this girls isn't even in them?
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Source? I've not seen the CarisJames hashtag on photos not of this girl. But I guess you can just say things and we're meant to believe them. This is how the shills are running this site, by giving up the burden of proof to make assumptions.
Assuming that Caris implies a date rape drug, or is code for some genetic eye mutation without any proof is much worse than assuming its just the child's name.
Fateswebb ago
Okay wait, I was under the impression that these are different children, I guess it could be conceived that they're the same child. https://i.sli.mg/dkpNmv.jpg
I was referring to the baby eating euros for instance, it's so young I hadn't considered it the same child, but certainly I can see how that's possible.. so is that what we are to conclude is these are all the same child and so that's why he is tagging them that? I'll look closer..
Fateswebb ago
Hey wait maybe you're right, notice the last picture someone else calls her caris I believe. It's low quality but that looks like what the guys said was two names one being Caris okay I am starting to believe now, also I found a thread on here where the guy claims it's Caris Cunningham but haven't read the rest.
banusaur ago
The image wasn't random. It was found on one of JA's friends' instagrams.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Whose instagram? You got any documentation of that? Other people have said that it came from a Tumblr of random pizza pictures. I seem to remember that's where it came from, too.
wellington33 ago
What have you guys done with voat dude? This pic is real, its the same girl. Her name is Caris, we even know who their parents are. I cant believe this is naive desinformation... all i see around here is shitty shills.
Fateswebb ago
What wait? Her name is Caris where did you get that? We know who her parents are? Where did you get that? Funny how you seem to be the only one sure of these things and you provide no explanation as to how.
wellington33 ago
im not gonna look for all the sources BUT, i uploaded a fucking huge archive to this board: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1522057
there you have the info about the girl.
militant ago
Just read this comment now. What @wellington33 wrote are known facts since several weeks...
Fateswebb ago
I have not seen this forgive my cognitive dissonance, that's why I was asking for some sort of proof..... as it appears the entire thread is.
militant ago
Watch this, it won't take long and I believe that it answers all of your questions: https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@gizmosia/the-mother-the-husband-the-day-care-center-pizza-making
SlackeryTurnBull ago
The shill tactic is not scepticism or downvoting, it's using upvoting to direct people to disinformation,... what i'd say you're doing. Same girl? Prove it. Or do we just take your or somebody else's word for it?
wellington33 ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1522057
Alpo ago
There are multiple shill tactics, probably being used at the same time, possibly by multiple shill organizations.
banusaur ago
carisjames was a hashtag used on multiple kids' photos. The prevailing theory is that it has to do with the date-rape drug carisprodol and James A.
wellington33 ago
in fact, this was one of them: https://www.instagram.com/scummimgs/ the account is deleted now. you can see it tagged in some of the ig pics i sent you.
EDIT: "@scummimgs #carisjames loves being in Europe, spending euros!!"
wellington33 ago
That was before we discovered who the parents were. i dont remember the names dude, but they were in some IG pics. And man, dont even talk to me about that, i was one of the first ones talking about carisoprodol over here, i even made a graphic saying it could be carisoprodol or the name of the girl: https://i.sli.mg/bbx3CG.jpg i did this in 14 of December m8.
Download my archive and you'll find more info about the girl and her parents. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1522057
militant ago
The prevailing theory... among shills.
Fateswebb ago
Do you have a better theory? I don't see one that's more realistic being put forth but you call people shills? Proof up or shut up.
militant ago
Are you aware that there is already a lot of disinformation regarding this poor little girl because this is one of the best leads from Jimmy's Instagram?
How am I supposed to prove that shills are shills exactly?
It's borderline suspicious to tell me to shut up.
Here you go for the theory:
Is it a better theory? No. Is it a worse theory? No. Is it important? No. We will certainly never know why they chose that particular name anyway, so why should we focus on it?
Fateswebb ago
I just don't like calling her that, I feel like he has used the same hashtag referring to other pictures but either way if there is proof I would like to see it.. I didn't tell anyone to shut up, I just asked that we not call her that without some sort of proof it is actually her name or he is actually referring to her. I feel like the other drug explanation makes more sense but without James himself telling us what it means I doubt we will ever know. Certainly don't shut up, I don't care who tells you.. well unless it's your mom or your wife then maybe do what they say ahaha
AreWeSure ago
isn't there also no evidence her name is Caris James?
Fateswebb ago
I believe James if referring to HIMSELF when saying Carisjames not the girl. Probably referring to date rape drugs or something else.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
Sounds like something young hip people in Alefantis' circle would name their child, which seems more likely to me than some of the theories that have been floated about the meaning of CARIS.
AreWeSure ago
I believe Caris is her name, but James refers to Alefantis.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
If James is her middle name, it could be confirmation that she is his godchild and named after him.