In my opinion, there is no way this could be coincidental! All JA's properties perfectly align with what we know about the newly discovered tunnels! I even punched in the Pegasus Museum and it was a perfect match! Now we have a reason for why he bought the properties he did. The 3518 property was so strange, but not when you know about the tunnel system that is known to exist.
First, a link to an article on the tunnels Harrison G. Dyar built: https://ggwash.org/view/9513/hidden-tunnels-bugs-and-bigamy and to my previous post on the discovery of the tunnels: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1551092
In the article, it says workmen were excavating property at 2115 P street northwest. This will come into play later on.
Now I first did a map with four locations: Rock Creek Park, CP, The Transformer Museum (1404 P Street), and 2115 P Street. I included the ROCK CREEK PARK because is known that a tunnel runs from P STREET TO ROCK CREEK PARK. Yes, it’s confirmed in this link: https://ggwash.org/view/9513/hidden-tunnels-bugs-and-bigamy What is unknown is where Dyar tunneled along P Street (there is mention of P Street to V Street and also at E and B Streets), but no confirmed addresses. Since 2115 is confirmed by workmen digging at that site, I figured I’d use it. Here is the result:
https://i.sli.mg/f25h0X
You could draw a straight line from THE TRANSFORMER MUSEUM and the 2115P Street location!!!
Then I took put in the new PEGASUS Museum. This is what I got!!!
https://i.sli.mg/7rw8sH
If you take out CP and add in E Street (yes, we know from other articles that Dyar dug at E street), LOOK WHAT HAPPENS!!!
https://i.sli.mg/0Wdnw1
It’s a perfect match! It’s almost a perfectly straight line up from The Transformer Museum up to PEGASUS!!!
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remedy4reality ago
I'm still not getting why moving children by tunnels is so necessary. These are very significant distances between locations by foot, underground. This is far from 'game over' like the lead suggests. What is the next step? Is the next move for someone to investigate these routes for a rail system?
AreWeSure ago
Also this post seems to be pinning its hopes on elaborate and functioning tunnels built by Harrison Dyar.
Looking in Dyar, I found his tunnels were fairly small and have been filled in or obliterated by subsequent constructions.
The evidence in this thread is highly in question.
Freemasonsrus ago
DC is probably the most surveiled city in the country. Lots of activity by elites in the same places, repeatedly would certainly be something that would draw attention. Not saying I'm totally into the tunnel thing yet, but I could see many different uses, including just the fact these occult types love secret dumb shit like this as part of their "secret group". Most of us are still using our "normal" peasant brain to view these things and it needs to be viewed through the lens of a secret society type thing.
Investigate1999 ago
I think that she is actually on to something this time. There are tunnels for sure, it seems. The locations seem to match, if I understand correctly.
I suspect that you are right, in that they don't transport children that way, but...they might travel underground like that for some purposes. Maybe they dug up their own secret rooms under the surface. I doubt it, but the research seems reasonably solid for our level of research.
quantokitty ago
The tunnels add a unique and unobservable way of getting around. Think about a covert operation. Do you want to be out on the street? Where traffic lights are taking pictures? And then there are security cams. This is way better. Well, I just put in total distances. I'm not suggesting that they walk from P Street to Rock Creek Park every day. The point is that I'll bet that tunnel can be accessed at certain distances as for the "game over" remark, really? You don't think so? I gotta think it is. This was what JA & Co kept saying didn't exist ... but it does. As for the next step, I don't know. Definitely car, rail, and air routes. Someone mentioned a private airstrip near where Paule-Carres has that adoption center at 124 Amherst. I think we need to shore up where the entrances are to this labyrinth of tunnels.
whatonearth ago
Alefantis and others said that there aren't tunnels under Comet. They didn't say anything about whether some eccentric rich guy built tiny tunnels several miles away 150 years ago that have been collapsed for decades and never went anywhere within miles of the future site of Comet (or Pegasus either).
I-am-not-James ago
Another thing, according to survivors hunt and chase games are popular.
Tunnel hunt and chase games would be a winter thing, I'm guessing. The idea just came to me now. Crap.
I'm thinking of the text from IsThisGameOfThrones:Ryan:PizzagateGears alleged texts. If the texts are legit, and I think they are, JA did a countdown game with him. In ritual survivors hunt and chase testimonies I've heard them all say that the perp starts counting, and I've heard some say they yell the count to scare the person so the runner knows where they're at by the distance of the voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKTiUaloDDA&t=25s at :35 the interviewer says I wouldn't be caught dead with pictures of toddlers chewing on money. Right at I wouldn't be caught dead with toddlers JA sticks out his tongue, says really, and aggressively moves toward the interviewer. The interviewer holds his place and JA backs down. JA is used to being a dominant and in control, if he's not in a dominant he uses charm.
My bet is that they use tunnels for game chases. Screams are muffled. An interview that Ole Dammegard video said he went to a tunnel system in Europe, located right under sidewalks where he could hear people walking, but they couldn't hear him or know that he was there.
May not be used for transport as much as activities.
quantokitty ago
Great observation. I believe you could be right. I definitely think these are used for transportaton. Say a party is planned. A Washington elite is going to have 20 toddlers march up to his door in the evening and then leave at 2 or 3 in the morning? Doubtful. If there is a way to carry and/walk the children to the home, that's the route they'll take. There's another point I want to make and it's this: there are lots of kids disappearing. We all know this. Okay, so supposed a runaway or at at risk kid/troubled kid is befriended by this group. They welcome the kid and to show the child how important they are, they let the child in on a secret way of getting around. They might even go down in the tunnel to drink or beer or smoke a joint. So the kid is comfortable with the crowd and using this means of traveling. In fact, they like it. Oh, but guess what? They showed the kid's picture around, or perhaps a human trafficker needs a replacement from a kid that got arrested. The next time the kid goes down in the tunnel, they just disappear. The parents and friends don't know what happened because they just went out like they normally did, but they just never came home.
I-am-not-James ago
I think so. People will do anything for money and can be groomed as finders. I met a finder when I was a teen. She said she was running for help, but she didn't want help. She kept telling me about some cult she was running from, was very detailed, and I recognized that she was trying to get me lured in. When it didn't work she left the social group I was in.
think how soundproof it is in tunnels.
I-am-not-James ago
Yes. Definitely.
NotAnIdiot ago
We need people investigating at these tunnels. Find and observe likely entrances. We don't need to do anything illegal, just observe. Before they have the chance to clear out preferably.
quantokitty ago
Yes, please nothing illegal. Don't undo all the good by being foolish.
NotAnIdiot ago
I agree, but that doesn't mean we can't investigate.
quantokitty ago
Oh, no! Wasn't implying that. Definitely investigate, but nothing illegal.
pizzagatesleuth ago
You might be interested in my comment elsewhere in this thread. (Control-F-"contemporaneous")
dickface8 ago
Ooh interesting tool.
remedy4reality ago
Really? Imagine this scenario: Kids who are sold are kept at orphanages or in foster care. They get regular trips to Comet to parade in front of potential buyers and mingle with the kids of everyday customers, heading into Comet for nothing other than a pizza and a beer and some ping pong. Normal. The merchandise kids are not prostitutes up for rent, they are for sale. Once a kid is sold, he/she never sees Comet, or even the light of day again. Meanwhile, trips to the pizza joint are play time and they have no idea what is going on, until it's way too late. No need for cover and no need for tunnels, whatsoever. You could keep taking a kid back to Comet, until they are sold, and they would actually look forward to going. Makes a lot of sense, huh ? Please make a rational explanation of just why tunnels are so damn fundamental. I DON'T GET IT. I actually think your every 6 hour tunnel posts are becoming redundant and you're perusing a line of inquiry you have discovered garners upvoats.
I-am-not-James ago
Look for my explanation, search this thread, [control F] for this sentence: My bet is that they use tunnels for game chases.
quantokitty ago
Okay, then let me ask you a question: why do handlers build elaborate tunnels to get people (and drugs) across the border?
remedy4reality ago
Actually, I would prefer if you answered my question and defended your contention that tunnels are being used. Why would kids need to be moved through tunnels to and from Comet if they are just fine playing ping pong and eating pizza when they are there? Describe the scene for me, if you will.
doubleherpes ago
To avoid CCTV cameras, license plate readers, and foreign agents who could track patterns of behavior above ground.
Stop creating strawmen about what is happening in these tunnels. No one is claiming to know that. All that's being claimed is that tunnels exist, and that these properties are very coincidentally located along them.
Could be kids being moved, could be VIPs, could be drugs or weapons or gold bricks. Nobody knows at this point.
quantokitty ago
Why are people joking about double sleepovers if that's all that's happening? Why did Podesta build an underground room to show oversized art? Since when do you need to go underground for that? I'm not going to give a theory about CP because there's no evidence to support such a theory, but I could give a hypothetical about say a pedophile who was an elite player in Washington. So Senator A is a pedophile. His friends are also ... pedophiles. They indulge in the criminal activity and sometimes have parties. Senator A is going to have a party on Saturday. His friends will be there. Senator A can't just have 20 toddlers come up to his door. Then there's the leaving at 2 or three in the morning. And what if the toddlers are in distress or bleeding? Even more reason for them not to be seen coming out of his door. So they use underground entrances. His friends also arrive through tunnels so no one is sure who's there or who's not there. Only the people inside (and the people procuring the children) know what's going on inside. There's one such scenario for you.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
I suppose in dealing with the Washington elite, that it might allow many of them to enter into a place without being seen or placed there.
Mini-spare ago
Avoids the pervasive surveillance.
fogdryer ago
no one hears you scream in a tunnel no one sees you carrying a kid that's drugged
whitehand ago
Precisely, politicians in DC are like celebrities in Hollywood. Both groups have to be on the down low if they are engaged in illegal activity within their respective cities. I would say tunnels would be an absolute necessity for these pervs.
remedy4reality ago
sorry, that is total conjecture and borderline meaningless speculation -- Elites don't root around in tunnels, my friend, they go by limo.This post is claiming tunnels are used to transport children between Alefantis' properties. These are significant distances.
Empire_of_the_mind ago
These posts are NOT CLAIMING what they do, just that the tunnels exist, and that they correspond to locations where Alefantis owns property. Your sliding is mid-level.
remedy4reality ago
So, in short : BIG FUCKING DEAL Just what IS the god damn point and what is the RELEVANCE ? Let's go, smart ass.
Empire_of_the_mind ago
Keepin' it mediocre, remedy!
remedy4reality ago
Yes.. the whole world should be mindless cheerleaders... That is how shit gets refined, eh Empire ?
common_sense ago
We don't know yet. Could be something huge or it could be nothing. But dismissing a coincidence like this is moronic.
remedy4reality ago
Who said it was a coincidence? What is moronic, buddy, is walking 4-6 miles in a dank tunnel to deliver a kid to an elite.
I-am-not-James ago
It's real important to check dates the tunnels were built. You're talking about limo's weren't a thing until maybe the '60's or '70's, and elite limo services wasn't as popular as today. I'm not sure the exact dates that decadence really took off.
If these tunnels were built before the 60's, there's a good chance it was to transport contraband of all kinds.
When were cars a common use in DC?
Did the common people use buses or trolley's, as in Trolley park as a means of transportation instead of cars?
Before this century people weren't as lazy and didn't have the kind of vehicle transportation as we do now.
Date of tunnels would be important.
Maybe they don't use them as a means of getting from point a to b, but they might use them as a ritual location. It would be smarter to hide a ritual location underground than above ground. Remember the construction building nextdoor to cpp specialized in underground work and Podesta's house had underground compounds, according to the guardian article.
If they wanted to do really rustic ''artistic'' rituals these tunnels would be ideal.
common_sense ago
I never said anything about your last part.
remedy4reality ago
Wait.. are you saying tunnels run under the houses of elites, or elites are moving around in tunnels? You know, we have backdoors and security to cordon off entry and exit into even the most high profile locations.
Hopevoats ago
Politics and Prose. Someone posted a blog that had a very specific map of the store, with some strange emphasis on a [special area?] Now, I've got to get on my laptop and search that thread. Can't recall if it was old PG it this one...
SlackeryTurnBull ago
They could enter into the tunnels through some unassuming location and then proceed to where the whorehouse was. This system might have been in use for centuries to hide this sort of thing by politicians. They can't very well all show up at the same place.