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Vindicator ago

Just want to chime in here, Quantokitty, that you've had done a great job making these posts, supporting them with evidence and asking questions. This is exactly what this board is for. Kudos!

remedy4reality ago

OP 'discovered' known tunnels, hundreds of years old and the moderator swoons...

Please tell me what the conclusion is ... Jimmy and his cohorts walking a kid 6 miles uptown in a tunnel to avoid detection? You know, we have tinted friggen windows for that, people.

Imagine this scenario: Kids who are sold are kept at orphanages or in foster care. They get regular trips to Comet to parade in front of potential buyers and mingle with the kids of everyday customers, heading into Comet for nothing other than a pizza and a beer and some ping pong. Normal. The merchandise kids are not prostitutes up for rent, they are for sale. Once a kid is sold, he/she never sees Comet, or even the light of day again. Meanwhile, trips to the pizza joint are play time and they have no idea what is going on, until it's way too late. No need for cover and no need for tunnels, whatsoever. You could keep taking a kid back to Comet, until they are sold, and they would actually look forward to going. Makes a lot of sense, huh ? Please make a rational explanation of just why tunnels are so damn fundamental. I DON'T GET IT. I actually think your every 6 hour tunnel posts are becoming redundant and you're perusing a line of inquiry you have discovered garners upvoats.

This entire sub is deteriorating with these constant tunnel posts and I will continue to call it out until a feasible logistical explanation accompanies these tunnel 'discoveries'.

CantWeJustDroneHim ago

Remedy, I like your skepticism and way of thinking, it's typically how I approach these theories. In this case though I have a few ideas of the top of my head.

  1. Whenever elites gather, they are recognizable and people take notice. This could be a way to allow anonymous travel of VIP, not necessarily the children.

  2. Maybe the tunnels aren't for trafficking, but for disposal? I'm imagining for a second the satanic stuff might be true, it seems this would be a great way to get rid of messy bodies.

  3. Quiet. Tinted windows and drugs are great, but you never know when you might get a screamer. However faint, someone might here it, like in the ping pong video from years back.

Not saying I believe any of these are true, but I certainly see the utility in it

SuggarRay ago

Isn't it for the killing and disposal of them?

naturehelps ago

Are you joking? This is incredible work. Some of the finest here. What is the connection to a tunnel, an underground passage? Obviously, any kind of covert activity - especially moving things or people or children, secretly. It's hinted at here strongly in posters, that something related to sex and children is occurring underground. http://exopolitics.blogs.com/ebolagate/2016/12/titus-frost-brittanynicole-pettibone-reality-calls-whats-going-on-underground.html Someone should follow up with more photos.

remedy4reality ago

without a follow up that actually connects it all, it's nothing.

naturehelps ago

There is an underground trolley system in the area. Has someone already written about that? Is that part of the map? If not, does this trolley system intersect with the private tunnel this guy built? It was opened in 1870 with a total of 87 stations.
http://exopolitics.blogs.com/ebolagate/2016/12/titus-frost-brittanynicole-pettibone-reality-calls-whats-going-on-underground.html

“Not many people have seen this,” Joe Kerr said as he pushed open a rusty door, the squeak of its hinges echoing in the dark.

We were 60 feet underground, and Joe , president of a D.C. urban exploration group called Friends of Outrageously Obscure Locations, was about to show me the remnants of Washington’s first subway system. We weren’t supposed to be here — technically, we were trespassing — but I had heard so much about this subterranean wonderland that I had to see it for myself.

“Welcome to the Georgetown Mole Way station,” Joe said, clicking on a large flashlight.

The light illuminated a cathedral-like space. The walls were covered in light green tile and inset every 20 feet or so with wooden benches. A wrought-iron railing ran along the platform’s edge, interrupted at regular intervals with sliding gates. ....

“Pretty cool, huh?” said Joe, who works for the District cleaning the lenses on speed cameras.

It was unbelievable: a crumbling, disused subway station hidden beneath busy city streets. .... Joe and his secretive band of spelunkers have spent years mapping the Mole Way — or at least those parts that haven’t been destroyed by modern construction. About a third of it remains, its access points closely guarded secrets.

HomeboyChrisBanned ago

Tunnels have historically been used to avoid detection (surveillance) by police in order to cover up nefarious activities. What makes you think anything has changed?

remedy4reality ago

Show me where the DC Police have given a fuck about anything other than protecting the elites and covering up crimes. You're a little late to the party, buddy.

psy0pus ago

Well.. one reason could be, is that they're traffick large numbers of children at a time. That e-mail where the guy was selling beanie baby's.. he wasn't getting rid of a few. And "$65,000" worth of hot dogs.. isn't just a couple of children assuming that's what it was code word for. If they need to move 60 kids.. they're gonna do it in a bunch of cars with tinted windows or in a large truck, that if was pulled over, they'd be fucked? Just an opinion, though. We don't know what the number of kids being trafficked from this place on average is.

remedy4reality ago

Top dollar kids can fetch 6 figures. Read this very enlightening article >> http://www.gailallen.com/theo/Secrets-of-the-CIA-Global-Sex-Slave-Industry-by-Dr-Sue-Arrigo.html

whatonearth ago

Your point about the absurdity of walking kids 6 miles through tunnels kind of underscores the ongoing confusion from pizzagate posters who I guess are from exurban or rural areas and see a few miles as a short distance. They don't seem able to put themselves in the mindset of city people for whom a mile and a half feels like a long distance because you'll pass through four or five distinct neighborhoods along the way that have their own shopping areas and also the bus you're on is stuck in traffic with 25 more stops to go or the cab you're in is gridlocked with the meter ticking... nothing wrong with not being a city person but if you're coming up with theories about what a city person would do, you have to at least try to think like one if your theories are going to make sense to someone who is not already inclined to believe you.

(And anyway, as pointed out elsewhere in the thread, these tunnels were very short, collapsed a long time ago, and were an hours-long walk from Comet or Pegasus.)

witch_doctor1 ago

The significance is in the history of known/alleged ritual child abuse cases....most of which involved some sort of underground structure/tunnels. Whether this puzzle piece belongs in this puzzle has yet to be verified...

newworldahead ago

I don't understand how some people can think underground tunnels would NOT be handy for sick individuals that have something to hide. I don't want to speculate on how they would use these tunnels, but the fact that there are tunnels located near several of JA's properties should not be blindly dismissed. OK for not jumping to conclusions, but let's keep an open mind.

TheRedPi11 ago

It’s possible the tunnels could serve as an organizational / (dis)orienation area. They may need lots of space - more than a vehicle could provide - to “store” their human merchandise & ensure secrecy while their operations are underway. For all we know this is a 24/7 operation, with a colossal amount of children being processed through Comet & tunnels. Just a thought. I think some don’t realize this is not a few children we’re talking about, but a regular stream of them. But again, I am only speculating so take it for what it’s worth.

Also I don’t think the mileage of the tunnels is relevant, they could be using vehicles down there too (golf carts or the like).

remedy4reality ago

Yeah... that is ridiculous. Read my reply to the moderator about the size of this operation. You tunnel types sure have active imaginations, unsupported by the evidence at hand.

TheRedPi11 ago

What?

flyingcuttlefish ago

notice the closeness of nearby associated properties like Besta Pizza and the bookstore.... I think that makes the tunnel idea important. Also other posts here have a lot on DuPont Circle and fancy homes there. And other posts talk about Podesta brothers homes having sub basements with suspect spaces in them. So the tunnel could facilitate moving kids, corpses or other things from one DC address to another. Some tunnels are big enough for a gold cart to go through. Recall the child size coffins they show off as 'furniture'.

Also the tunnel idea could be for moving groups of party-going pedos or coven attendees from one spot to another and not appearing as a group or having cars all parked at one location.

There was a famous New York mafia bust, the first big one, made because all the top guys attended a meeting at a house and all the parked cars drew police attention. It was very famous (50s or 60s). These pedos do not want to be seen as a group. They sneak around.

VictorSteinerDavion ago

As fun as secret tunnels are, I'm with you on the hypothesis you present, there is just no logistical reason to need the secrecy of tunnels.
Especially when local LEO's are part of your cabal....

superchargedv8 ago

Good post, i think voat is being brigaded with tunnel distraction on purpose, i still don't believe gameofthrone was contacted by JA, and now being pounded with this crap is kind of telling, especially with all the circle jerking, omg good job guys we are the best! It's solved!

BeanieBabyEmail ago

I appreciate you for this. I fully believe in Pizzagate but I feel that some people are acting almost like they are having a fever dream when they come up with some things here. I can understand because something like Pizzagate makes you question everything but there is no reason for tunnels. The best way to hide is in plain sight. Unfortunately it is all too easy to traffick children in our free society. If there is a demand for it, there is going to be plenty of supply. Especially given lax law enforcement and even cover ups.

I don't really think focusing on the tunnels is going to get us to where we need to go. This is a collaborative citizen investigation and I don't want to take anything away from anyone investigating because it is all so important but I think sometimes people's zeal to solve this and bring these sick fucks to light may cloud their judgement and rationality at times. Myself included. It is only natural.

lhunterel ago

"We" dont use tinted windows for that, or even think that way for that matter... Are you one of them??

Pizzalurker15 ago

This is a good example. The kids dont know any difference. Buyers dont want jaded kids.

Wolftrail7272 ago

Between your attitude and your urging we stop looking into tunnels, I'm starting to think tunnels may actually be important...

remedy4reality ago

All good investigations are vetted during the process. Don't be sensitive because I am challenging the OP on his assumptions. Dig away, and when you find something post it. I will review it and give my evaluation.

DopeandDiamonds ago

I do think it is poor logic to think that these kids are being transported underground through tunnels. I would guess they have been walked off and are not one continuous tunnel anymore. There is no need to hike kids miles underground. I think the more practical and sick option is that the tunnels are a holding sell of some kind or even worse, where they at killed. Concrete covers up sound well and any tunnel would have to have drains to deal with run off and flooding so cleaning is easy with a hose and some bleach.

There is a tunnel system where I live that is from the 1850s and has been closed off.

Think about it. Leaving a tunnel system fully connected in the nation's capital I just begging to be exploited by terrorists. Not to mention I am sure other houses along the route have dug out their basements and blocked off the tunnel.

Vindicator ago

Hey Remedy, your skepticism is warranted, and your comment added a lot to this conversation. I've upvoated it. Why would they need tunnels?

Imagine you are a rich asshole who can do or say or have pretty much whatever you want. What's your biggest problem? It's boredom. And say you happen to hear about this creepy rich entomologist bigamist who dug all these tunnels. Wouldn't YOU buy a property on top of one and see if you could link up to it? I would. Especially if my friends had soundproofed basement chambers put into their homes for special art viewing (Tony Podesta). Imagine the secret gallery you could accumulate and show off. The parties you could throw. Is this likely? No, because someone would have spilled the beans. But it IS plausible.

My kudos to the OP wasn't about the premise, it was about the approach taken to it. Seems like about half the posts we get are absolute crap -- people jumping on here, dumping a link with no explanation, no premise, no supporting points with sources. We get waves of shitposts spamming the board with nazi crap one day, next day Voat is owned by vampire Jews... Today it was "Mods are AI's". So a well researched, well-constructed post with an intriguing premise that generates a collaborative discussion is going to get a mention from me. It's why we are on here removing spam posts around the clock, so discussions like this can happen.

The reality is, we don't know where the tunnels exactly are, how extensive they might be, if Dyer made them in more places than people generally know (he probably did, given the fact he was living a double life with two separate families). Or if he had any connections to the elite assholes in control of DC in his day. But this is a verifiable hypothesis -- it can be tested with ground penetrating radar, for example.

Voat came under heavy attack today as this series of posts was gaining steam. Does that mean we are onto something and they were trying to shut us down? Or was the electronic and spam interference coupled with the posts themselves part of an elaborate disinformation campaign to distract us from digging into Epstein and the Clinton Foundation? We don't know. But we can freely assemble here and freely express ourselves and let our government and the people who manipulate it know we are happy and willing to give them a free colonoscopy any time at all. And that, after all, is the point.

naturehelps ago

Has this been covered already in terms of it linking up with this private tunnel? This runs up Connecticat Avenue near CP.

The Disused Streetcar Tunnels Beneath Dupont Circle http://www.urbanghostsmedia.com/2013/03/historic-streetcar-trolley-tunnels-dupont-circle-washington-dc/

And while people are wondering whether tunnels matter, by the looks of the posters near the London underground which almost seem to be making inside jokes that something is going on. http://exopolitics.blogs.com/ebolagate/2016/12/titus-frost-brittanynicole-pettibone-reality-calls-whats-going-on-underground.html

Strange posters with kids and other things that look "code-y". http://exopolitics.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c73dd53ef01bb095ce6e1970d-pi http://exopolitics.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c73dd53ef01b8d243a308970c-pi Child's writing: "Under where?" "Underwear"? http://exopolitics.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c73dd53ef01bb095ce75e970d-pi

exopolitics.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c73dd53ef01b7c8b9e33c970b-pi

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c73dd53ef01b7c8b9e307970b-pi

Who do they mean here by utopians? People not hurting children underground?

"".... the "ole mole" revolution hollows out chambers in a decomposed soil repugnant to the delicate nose of the utopians"

Spark_Plugg ago

Best Mod I've seen around here. +1

Aphoticamy ago

Fantastic levelheaded mod post! Thank you for your hard work.

remedy4reality ago

I appreciate the comment. Any good investigation asks questions of the evidence, a lot of questions. Group think is the enemy of a good investigations. The tunnels avenue just seems like it's following a predetermined conclusion to an insignificant end. The farther the investigation moves away from Podesta, Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, and the CGI, the colder it gets. That is my opinion. It is also my opinion that JA is not running a large scale operation that moves scores of kids through secret tunnels. It's just all too sloppy. I think he is catering to the elites and dignitaries who live/visit DC. He is extremely well connected, we all know that as fact. He is dealing with the 'caviar', if you will, of child trafficking: White kids, preferably blond. His operation is refined and avoids the pressure of a large overhead but does have the benefit of top dollar exchanges.

Vindicator ago

I tend to agree with you, Remedy. I would like to see a lot more digging into CGI shennanigans. The tunnels are relatively easy to investigate, though, comparatively. If it turns out Alefantis did buy properties adjacent to them...well, from a public relations perspective, it would be terrible. This kind of creepy, lurid detail would leave another stain on the ping pong crew they would not soon wash off. Global money laundering just isn't going to fuel public outrage in the US the way a discovery like this might. So, IMO it does have value.

remedy4reality ago

Don't get me wrong. I'm not totally discrediting OP's work, but the 'game over' comment is a red flag for me. It's either getting to far in front of the finding or leading Voaters to complacency. Way more work needs to be done by the OP to boost the significance of this 'discovery'.

Vindicator ago

THAT is why you rock

YingYangMom ago

@Vindicator

Well said. I believe most Voaters appreciate what you're doing here. At least, I certainly do. Much respect, peace.

Wolftrail7272 ago

Reading this makes me deeply happy with the quality of mods here. Also, glad you mentioned ground penetrating radar. That will come in handy, I suspect.

Htaed ago

Storage. Drug cartels dig tunnels to transport drugs. Child traffickers use tunnel to move kids around. I wouldn't be surprise to find 100 Haitian kids down there in cages.

waxdino ago

Another possibility is to mind-fuck the kid, especially if they are being brainwashed into slavery. Cathy O'Brien speaks of being purposely confused to not know where she was most times. (Think what you will of her story, just tossing that in.) It also adds to making victims sound nuts, "and then I was led into a deep tunnel..." Discovered years ago or not, most people don't know of them. Did you?
I like your cynicism, though. We need that.

VieBleu ago

would you give the moderator a BREAK ferchrissake. That is hardly "swooning", just giving an example of what they think is a post that doesn't cost them any trouble or work.

NakatomiBaby ago

What about traffic cams that can, in real time, follow a particular vehicle or surveil a specific location. All above ground. All admissable in court.

SpikyAube ago

Or even being caught on CCTV driving somewhere or walking somewhere when you were going to commit a crime. Say you make a mistake and leave a body, and then there's CCTV footage showing you in the vicinity etc. It would be useful to know you could get to other places across town without being identified later on by traffic cams etc.

Also a good alibi - hey, of course I wasn't at that property in Columbia Heights where those missing kids were found dismembered - see if you check the traffic cam outside my restaurant you'll see I went in at 7pm and didn't come out until 5am the following morning! Man, it is so lucky we have a traffic camera right there so that I can give you this hard-evidence alibi!

remedy4reality ago

Remember... the traffic cam outside COMET was moved the day before the 'shooter' and his false flag investigation. It was moved back into its regular position the following day. I'm far from convinced the rank and file of DC are on our side, especially since the whitewash of Seth Rich's murder.

Spark_Plugg ago

source on the traffic cam? because that is just too much.

remedy4reality ago

It was also covered here on VOAT, but here is the Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5oDm2jYmNI

Gorillion ago

Good point. They've demonstrated an awareness of, and sensitivity to traffic cams.

Birdzeyeview ago

no conspiracy theory , no matter how whack (as this one surely is) is complete without a secret tunnel. The wack job in Australia known as Fiona Barrett actually posed secret underground railways in Australia, connecting facilities hundreds of miles apart. Risible.

lectorleoni ago

That's not how you use the word "risible."

Birdzeyeview ago

i just did, fuckwit

risible | Definition, Dictionary https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/risible risible | If you describe something as risible , you mean that it is ridiculous and does not deserve to be taken seriously .

now fuck off spammer

lectorleoni ago

Well, I can see why you might not have finished college.

Birdzeyeview ago

wrong again Defective

lectorleoni ago

So where and when did you graduate? And is English your first language?

Birdzeyeview ago

that is my fucking business

lectorleoni ago

Did you read Shakespeare in this college that you supposedly attended? Do you know what iambic pentameter is? Do you remember the following line:

Methinks the lady doth protest too much

remedy4reality ago

Actually, it's the psychos running this child trafficking ring who are 'whacked'. They are monsters. You're really making a name for yourself here.

Wolftrail7272 ago

I heard a rumor you were Alfantis. On the off chance you are, I can't pass up the opportunity to ask you: do you really think this is just going to blow over? The past is unbearably heavy for someone like you, I imagine.

we_kill_creativity ago

The point, clearly, isn't that they "discovered" already known tunnels. It's that a single person has purchased properties that now seem to orientate 100% with them. What they specifically use them for isn't known right now, but it seems reasonable to conclude that they have a use for them. It could be for a single purpose or many purposes.

As for what you thought was a clever or interesting comment:

we have tinted friggen windows for that, people.

I hope you quickly stop thinking that you were either clever or interesting. I'll just say this...You know one of the few things that would be even more foolproof than a "tinted friggen window"? A hidden tunnel. So I'll sum this all up just by saying..."Duh..."

gibsmeupgroids ago

I hope you quickly stop thinking that you were either clever or interesting. I'll just say this...You know one of the few things that would be even more foolproof than a "tinted friggen window"? A hidden tunnel. So I'll sum this all up just by saying..."Duh...

tunnels where they have to walk a mile or so between houses? haw no you're retarded and your logic completely bypasses the psychology of these people. theyve been open about what theyre doing for YEARS theyre not suddenly going to start walking kids through underground tunnels for multiple miles to fuckin rape em or do that themselves. cars with tinted windows would be used to move the kids. /u/remedy4reality is absolutely correct there. is the tunnel thing a nice get? sure. you still have no idea what its used for and are doing nothing but throwing a shill tier cognitive dissonance bomb out.

TheRedPi11 ago

@gibsmeupgroids You talk a lot & say nothing. But thanks for the tip! You nonsensical shills always point us in the right direction. All we have to do is watch where you push back.

gibsmeupgroids ago

MUH SHILL. hang yourself retard. disputing someones point doesnt make me a shill. i bet you/re the same kind of fag that posts purity spiral shit on /pol/

TheRedPi11 ago

Poor thing. So many words, so little to say :(

HomeboyChrisBanned ago

Maybe the clients live along the tunnel and have access. It would be kinda obvious in this day and age if somebody was running some child prostitution network. Eventually ppl would notice dudes acting suspiciously running around with different kids. Did you ever see the movie They Live? Or the Simpsons freemason episode? They like tunnels because we're not allowed in em. Go do some research into the extents they went during prohibition. Or the cartel now. Money isnt a factor when we are talking about a VIP pedophile / child porn snuff ring.

sore_ass_losers ago

Tunnels are a common motif, aren't they literally the underworld. Note that Dutroux had underground chambers to keep young girls he had kidnapped, McMartin School kids reported tunnels, mainstream says there were none but there are reports they were found and excavated.

gibsmeupgroids ago

you're assuming they even see them that often or that they dont live near other pedophiles that wouldnt give a shit. dude your argument has so many different holes in it. you're again completely ignoring the psychology and current actions of these people. hell. they posted their fucking killroom to instagram. super discreet isnt something they are. you need to get off the internet for a day or so stick it in a bucket of ice to cool down, and then take a look at this with a fresh perspective cause right now you're not gonna get anywhere.

madmanpg ago

"The point, clearly, isn't that they "discovered" already known tunnels. It's that a single person has purchased properties that now seem to orientate 100% with them."

How many other properties in DC orientate with these tunnels? If it's a common thing, then this isn't much of a bombshell. What continues to be curious is how a "simple pizzeria owner" has the kind of money to purchase multiple properties in one of the most expensive land areas on the planet and end up one of the 50 most powerful people in Washington.

whatonearth ago

Damned near everything is "orientated" by Quantokitty's standards, which seems to be that you can connect things by a few straight line streets. Well, duh, most of DC is grids of straight line streets, so you can connect everywhere with a few straight line streets. It's ridiculous to assume this means anything.

eyeVoated ago

Because he's a CIA operative, perhaps?

remedy4reality ago

There is no reason why they need to hide these kids, anyway. If there is, present one.

HomeboyChrisBanned ago

They would need to hide them because after Craig Spence and Franklin Scandal, too many people know what to look for. Maybe they got smarter about how they did it.

Beaucephus ago

Only reason I could think it that it's not kids, it's drugs. Passed out kids don't look suspicious in cars, but a big pile of cocaine sure does. Cop gets tipped off (I assume there are a few good ones in DC, but maybe I'm wrong) an underground tunnel sounds heck of a lot better than a car if I'm running drugs.

SpikyAube ago

Could be all kinds of things - drugs, corpses, guns, bombs, weaponised viruses, kids, never get caught on CCTV when you're off to do something evil...

MolochHunter ago

if the kids arent unwitting local american kids and clearly are bewildered Haitian picanninnies, with no parents, they're gonna be pretty conspicuous coming out of a tinted car and eating pizza in the main hall.

If they have been drugged to keep from crying or screaming, they're gonna be conspicuous If they are pre-abused, they're gonna be conspicuous.

Tell me, what is it about pedophilia and 'discretion' that seems so hard for you to grasp

HomeboyChrisBanned ago

Yeah you are right. All you have to do is look back at the lengths people went during prohibition. There are over 100,000 hidden speakeasys in this country. Correction: over 100k speakeasys in NYC alone

wincraft71 ago

Agree. If this network is real, it would be powerful enough to move in broad daylight without being caught or suspected unless the children are screaming bloody murder. If somebody does get suspicious or asks too many questions boom suicided or your car gets pushed in front of a train.

Plus if it's connected to who we suspect it is they definitely seem like the arrogant sociopath type who want to expose themselves just a little and take risks, using tunnels would imply a sophisticated, intelligent, paranoid operation.

Edit: Not to imply they don't use tunnels or have more capable individuals handling the operations. I'm just questioning the motivation versus the easier broad daylight option. Anyways, to get a real smoking gun we would need an investigator to get pictures of kids in distress at a location.

MolochHunter ago

bear in mind - its not just bringing kids to the venue. If our worst fears are confirmed, its about removing them afterwards too - in whatever state they happen to be in

wincraft71 ago

This is pretty morbid, but if the location is somewhere remote enough from suspicion couldn't they use acid or chemicals inside of a container to take care of that? Then throw away the evidence?

MolochHunter ago

i think the community here has a consensus that pig farms are most commonly used as the pigs will consume human bodies fairly rapidly - but even if that consensus is correct, we have a worldwide network of differently resourced sects/factions/covens/rings and the old acid-barrel is not an uncommon tool.

Wolftrail7272 ago

Video equipment for blackmail. Can't have people walking in every week with all that equipment... maybe that is who uses the tunnels.

ThePuppetShow ago

Maybe it's not for the kids, but it's an emergency escape route for rich/powerful clients.

fifibrindacier ago

In France, the kings had this, in case of revolution. Great thinking.

Yates ago

DuPont Circle area is filled with embassies.

MolochHunter ago

yer 'im the head diplomat for a major ME nation, I think ill walk into a pizza bar and slip out its back curtain for a few hours.' There's only so much hiding in plain sight they wanna flirt with, yer

Womb_Raider ago

I think it makes more sense to totally hide the operation. Cases like Madeline McCann, for example, she was all over the news and etc.

Say one of these kids somehow gets a sob story and everyone knows about it... they see a kid that looks kind of like them at the pizza place? Might report it

remedy4reality ago

Yeah... I easily explained that away by mentioning that the 'kids' are orphans or foster kids. Not milk carton kids.

Womb_Raider ago

But didn't someone connect McCann to Podesta?

MolochHunter ago

yup, old news on this site.

quantokitty ago

Hey, thanks. I appreciate it. This is important because it's about kids.

CantWeJustDroneHim ago

I'm not trying to be critical of potential leads here, but shouldn't this one be fairly easy to prove/disprove? Just need one or two intrepid explorers to get on to the tunnels and see what they find? Or is there no known access?

quantokitty ago

The only three known access points (that I'm aware of and have been mentioned) are the ones at Dyar's house, 2115 P street northwest (where the workmen accidentally found the tunnel), and the house his second family lived (Dyar was a bigamist). Everything else seems to be alluded to .... including the house where he lived on B Street. I did seem to run across it in an article and didn't know it wouldn't be repeated. The problem is that they made mention of the entrances being cemented closed. So there you go. One would think it would be easy, but not really.

CantWeJustDroneHim ago

That's some really great info, looks like I'll have to do some major catch up reading, didn't realize there was actually real information on the tunnels, Thanks

The_Periodic_Fable ago

Are you saying there is a long tunnel running up beneath 16th street? Are you aware there is a huge Masonic temple on the16th?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Temple

ronnyCPI ago

Makes me wonder if a part of the 33rd degree rite of freemasonry involves witness of child sacrifice, who is taken through the tunnels. Grim thought, I know.

The_Periodic_Fable ago

The whole concept of secret societies just boggles my mind.

quantokitty ago

No, I'm not. Interesting ...

doubletake ago

good stuff! don't forget your Luminol!

BTW/ How WIDE are these tunnels? big enough for a golf cart?

quantokitty ago

I believe there are pictures of some of them in the articles I posted. They're not as big as the tunnels in Dupont Circle, but they're plenty big enough for a golf cart. They're bricked over and a lot more pleasant than roaming around in the sewer system.

HomeboyChrisBanned ago

Those bricked over tunnels were common in the old days because the would come in and tear the street up, build the walls and arch of tunnel with brick, then backfill the dirt over. Its an ancient Roman technique. Its strong, so you never see em collapse and they just kinda sit there waiting to be found. Just watched a history channel thing about underground NYC.

quantokitty ago

So it's a Roman technique. Great to know. Yes, well, the articles all saw the tunnels were expertly done. It wasn't shoddy work. Thanks for the input.

pizza_flesh2 ago

STRAND on VOLTA is located at 1531 33rd Street NW, Washington DC . Another JA property. Does it fit in?

quantokitty ago

It is? Lord, I have to keep track of all this guy's properties. Let me throw it in google. Holy crap! If we use a generic P Street location (which again is where Dyar did a lot of his digging), it's a TWO MINUTE WALK! https://i.sli.mg/9yiII0 And it's right near another park. Volta Park? Never heard of it.

pizza_flesh2 ago

Also, The Strand obviously has a basement with possible tunnel access.

https://i.sli.mg/MtCa0P.jpg

Here is the kicker... ON THE SAME BLOCK. construction showing a ladder going what looks like to be pretty deep. only thing, it's on the other side of the road.

https://i.sli.mg/xeDPAn.jpg