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srayzie ago

Why do some think JA is in the CIA? Isn't the CIA supposed to be someone who spies? Are people thinking he's not bad and just watching everyone around him be bad so they can arrest these people in the future. No way. Can someone explain why they would think he's in the CIA?

Alpo ago

There are spies in the CIA, but they are mostly in foreign countries - the CIA has many other operations and activities. People do not think that Alefantis is a good guy working for the government doing surveillance on pedophiles - that would be the FBI's job. They think he is in the CIA because of the MKUltra (officially confirmed) and MONARCH (not officially confirmed) programs, and because of suspicions that the CIA is involved in international human trafficking and blackmail of politicians using pedophilia.

MKUltra is a mind-control program originating in the CIA in, I believe, the early 1950s. They experimented with drugs, hypnosis, and other techniques to get people to tell the truth, not tell the truth, carry out missions without remembering what they had done or why, and other things. Monarch is said to have sprung from this, and it allegedly involves traumatizing young children with sex and torture to induce multiple-personality or dissociative-identity disorder. The goal is to create a mind-controlled slave that has a highly compartmentalized mind. Information gathered about Monarch is mostly based on the testimonies of those who claim to be its victims (namely Cathy O'Brien and Paul Bonacci)

There is a lot of information available about this in books and online. One of the best books about MKUltra is The Search for the "Manchurian Candidate" by John Marks. The Finders case is also very significant.

SayWhatNOWAY ago

Off topic a bit but, I think Oswald to was a MKUltra student.

carmencita ago

I heard on the news today a few times that the Fort Laud. shooter told the FBI in Alaska a yr ago that an Intelligence Agency was telling him to watch ISIS videos. Why are these things not checked out? This sound like MK Ultra to me. I also believe that JA is under CIA MK Ultra control.

SayWhatNOWAY ago

Official: FLL shooter told FBI that gov't controlled his mind WPLG Local 10 › news › what-we-know... 23 hours ago - Suspect identified as Esteban Santiago. ... - Esteban Santiago, the accused killer at the crowded baggage claim area of Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, told the FBI in November that the government controlled his mind and forced him to watch ISIS

carmencita ago

The fact that it was on the local news was shocking. We saw it on two stations and now I hope I will be equally shocked to find that they will be running a full investigation. We should not allow them to sweep this under the rug.

SayWhatNOWAY ago

I totally agree!

srayzie ago

Thank you for all the info. I know all about MK Ultra but didn't know how that would have anything to do with JA. Is it believed he grew up under MK Ultra mind control? Victim turned predator?

WindowsInJudgement ago

Agree with u/Alpo it's all circumstantial at present but he fits the bill

Alpo ago

I don't think there's a consensus at this point about JA's exact background, just a general feeling that he is involved based in the limited information we have now.