https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQxYQ49p0U&t=3s
Watch this video and then ask yourselves
This guy spoke to Alefantis TWICE and didn't record it? He even "threatens" this guy on the phone call we that was never recorded. This is the same guy trying to profit off this.
All I'm saying is don't be so quick to believe this. For all we know this guy could be staging this and trying to scare people or create fake news or who knows.
Give me your thoughts.
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jml1201 ago
Ok maybeee I can understand for some reason you didn't record it the first time and that is a big maybe but the SECOND time? I'm having a real hard time with this. You did all this investigative work and didn't record him threatening you.
micha_ ago
Thank you for being sceptical. There were a few things that didn't fit. He was not wondering, how Alefantis got the pics of his girlfriend and mother. He received a death threat. That is enough for everyone, to go to police. Blackmail with illegally aquired photos by Alefantis? Police would instruct, how to call him once more and what to say, to make him repeat the threats. But this guy is not interested at all to involve law enforcement...
And finally: after receiving death threats torwards himself, his mother and gf, he doesn't forget to advertise his pizzagate-shop...
SpikyAube ago
Well, he was talking to the guy on Facebook, so presumably JA got the pictures from his Facebook profile or from googling his name. I don't think he can be written off quickly just because he mentioned his shop at the end. The interactions do not look faked to me, because there are misunderstandings and bits where someone asks a question, then asks another or says something else before the other person responds to the first question, so it looks a bit out of sync in places, like how happens with real conversations. I'm not sure he would have thought to include little details like that if making up a whole conversation.
micha_ ago
I agree, that the interactions really looked convincing. Especially the behaviour of "Alefantis". But after so many years learning to develop a sense for implausible "news", the alarm went on and therefore I can not trust this youtuber.