https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQxYQ49p0U&t=3s
Watch this video and then ask yourselves
This guy spoke to Alefantis TWICE and didn't record it? He even "threatens" this guy on the phone call we that was never recorded. This is the same guy trying to profit off this.
All I'm saying is don't be so quick to believe this. For all we know this guy could be staging this and trying to scare people or create fake news or who knows.
Give me your thoughts.
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throwawaa ago
I want to believe but this isn't proof. In 30 seconds I reproduced this by right clicking the name on a chat window in facebook, clicking Inspect Element, and then editing the url that the link goes to. That link stays the same even if you click Home, because the chat window is not reloaded. http://sli.mg/0TAgTw.png
He needs to do a livestream and prove it in multiple different ways suggested on the fly by other trusted people here. That would convince me. If it's worth that much effort to prove this. But if we can't prove it, it's not really much use to us.
angryindividual ago
Where's YOUR proof of recreating that?
http://archive.is/IQFgG - Here debunk this archived link of facebook.com/james.alefantis
throwawaa ago
Just follow the steps I suggested. Here's a tutorial for the Inspect tool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnWL2d9bGPk
Here's what it looks like in this case: http://sli.mg/0TAgTw.png
(If people really wanted I could make a pair of fake facebook accounts and do this myself on video, but I don't want to give away my identity.)
angryindividual ago
No, burden of proof isn't on me. Sorry, but you didn't even acknowledge the direct link to James' profile. Geez. Wonder why.
throwawaa ago
Sorry, I acknowledge the link to his profile. I'm not saying that the profile was fake. I'm just saying I can easily edit the link in the chat box to point to whatever profile you want. Same with the name and image on the chat box, if you wanted to.
Right click the link, click Inspect, and you see this: http://sli.mg/0TAgTw.png You can edit that url to point to whoever's profile you want, and then do what he did in his proof video.
(didn't mean to make you more angry)
angryindividual ago
You're not understanding. You cannot archive a fake profile because of Inspect Element. That's what I'm proving. Also, I'm only angry 'cause I've seen you several times now continually insisting this point; it is erroneous though. Surely you can see my suspicion. Hope this is elaborated.
http://archive.is/IQFgG CANNOT. ARCHIVE. A. FAKED. PROFILE.
throwawaa ago
When he made the video, the profile had not been deleted yet, presumably. I'm not saying the james.alefantis profile is fake. I'm saying it's easy to edit the link in one of your chat boxes in facebook to point to whatever profile you want, and thus do what he did in his proof video, even if you weren't actually chatting with that profile.
nomorepepperoni ago
Hopping on the bandwagon to confirm this can be done. This isn't questioning the profile, it's questioning if he cleverly modified data under Inspect Element to fool us into thinking he spoke with the real JA.
This said, the profile deletion can't be a coincidence, either. I'm leaning towards "trust, but verify" on this one, personally, and keep looking for ways this could still be an increasingly clever hoax.
throwawaa ago
Well it seems the james.alefantis profile is back up now. I wonder how long it was down for. Do we have an archive link to prove that it was actually taken down temporarily?
https://www.facebook.com/james.alefantis http://archive.is/km0O7