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AreWeSure ago

You talk about crimes, but I see no evidence for the claims. The sale of Uranium One involved no crimes and multiple federal agencies confirmed it posed no threat to US security. You are using this for your claim of treason?

Joule is an American company. It is not controlled by Moscow or by Russian investors. And not a single word of that email concerns bribes.

You seem to alleging lobbying crimes, but it's not clear at all the specifics. The Panama Papers didn't reveal any crimes on behalf of the Podesta Group. Sberbank only became their client this year and they are publically registered as a lobbyist for Sberbank. See here

https://archive.is/ANo1b*

The issue they were hired to lobby on is US sanctions against the bank.

*Also there's a bonus there!

webofslime ago

Doug Band explicitly stated that Chelsea used 3 million in CF money to pay for her wedding.

The financials from the Clinton Foundation make it clear what is going on. Money laundering through a web of NGO's.

They are personally enriching themselves and their friends with blood money.

AreWeSure ago

I will sacrifice a chicken to the God of your choice if you can show me where Doug Band "explicitly" says this.

thewebofslime ago

https://www.gop.com/leaked-band-email-chelsea-used-clinton-foundation-resources-for-her-wedding/

In 2012, Amid A Spat With Chelsea Clinton, Doug Band Threatened That If Chelsea Wanted To Audit The Foundation That She Runs The Risk Of Exposing That She Used “Foundation Resources For Her Wedding And Life For A Decade…”

Here is a copy of the email...

https://i.sli.mg/tqQxLG.png

21yearsofdigging ago

At the end of the email he mentions 'Bari". Is this short for Barry?

AreWeSure ago

I read the email previously which is why I knew what Doug Band said .

Forget your fight with me and read the email again. See what he explicitly says.

webofslime ago

You are asserting that the Clintons don't profit, personally, from donations to the Clinton Foundation.

Your assertion is wrong.

AreWeSure ago

Do explain how.

webofslime ago

Are you saying that the Clinton Foundation covering Chelsea's personal expenses do not fall into that category?

The Clinton Foundation donations are donations to themselves... at least 85%. They give to their own charities.

Charity Navigator does not consider the Clinton Foundation to be a charity, at all.

Charles Ortel, the investigator who uncovered the financial discrepancies at General Motors before its stock crashed, says the Clinton Foundation is “the largest unprosecuted charity fraud ever.”

$10 billion in aid funds were taken in the Haiti earthquake and at the Clinton's discretion to give out. Can you tell me were that money went? Haitian reporters called Clinton disaster fund-raising “predatory humanitarianism.”

AreWeSure ago

Charity Navigator actually gives The Clinton Foundation very high marks.

Score (out of 100) Overall Score & Rating 94.74 Financial 97.50 Accountability & Transparency 93.00

For comparison the American Red Cross has an overall score of 83.33.

They previously didn't rate them, because the Clinton Foundation spun off a subsidiary that made year to year comparisons impossible.

Why hasn’t Charity Navigator published a rating of the Clinton Foundation for the last few years?................. For each charity, our rating system evaluates numerous financial and accounting metrics, including a comparison of how these metrics change from one year to the next. In 2013, the Clinton Foundation merged with one of its affiliates, the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI). This merger made it difficult to compare financial information of the combined entities with financial information from the Clinton Foundation before the merger. In situations like this with any charity, we will reevaluate if the charity provides consolidated financial data that will allow us to perform an accurate year-over-year comparison.

AreWeSure ago

CharityWatch has them as a top rated charity and gives them an A.

The Clinton Foundation never controlled 10 Billion dollars. False. That's adding up all reconstruction money from all parties. And that is what was pledged. It's unknown how many pledges were unfulfilled.

If you want to read the best of account of the failure of Haiti reconstruction which affects not just the Clinton Foundation, but also the Red Cross and UN and others read the book The Big Truck That Went By. Here's a long form article by that author on what happened, what the Clinton did well and where the they failed.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/clinton-foundation-haiti-117368

One aid worker claimed that Haiti was a mess at every level and corruption exists at every level.

Vindicator ago

Aaand scene. The commitment to citing sources is why I love this sub. :-)

AreWeSure ago

It's a mis-cite of the source or he doesn't know explicitly means.

Verite1 ago

Bullshit. And to top it off Chelsea herself was suspect of the dealings of CF.

Vindicator ago

Yeah...I think that was window-dressing. I think she did that 'auditing' stuff and conflict with Doug Band or whatever his name is, so that she and her parents can later claim their underlings were doing the nefarious deals behind their backs and they tried to stop it.

Verite1 ago

This could be true. I'm just wondering though with everything we know from George Webb about Eric Braverman perhaps not knowing and being shielded from the actual activities and the chain of command and maybe that's why he has now disappeared or went underground, or whatever because he figured it out? Could Chelsea have also been kept in the dark in some way?

Vindicator ago

Absolutely. These people are experts at 'plausible deniability' and isolated sleeper-cell tactics. Chelsea has probably been preserved spotless in case she has to run for the presidency to pardon both her parents. Hope those 4chan anons that have gone underground have hacked 'em all and gathered a mountain of incriminating stuff.