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YingYangMom ago

I've brought the handkerchief email up in this post here, you might want to take a look. Also there was another sub that was linked and mentioned in it. It would be helpful to collect info from both of them.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1504159

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1501728

I really think this needs to be investigated further. You're on a good lead.

EDIT: The house in question is the Field House here :

http://www.wallacemv.com/real-estate/55-harbor-view-lane-vineyard-haven-ma02568/Harbor55/16917472

Votescam ago

Thank you -- how did you determine where the house was and that it is that particular one? But, obviously, given the size of it, there may have been others besides JPodesta staying there?

YingYangMom ago

@Votescam

Good question. I did ask the same question and this is the answer I got.

The address is found in this email from Herb Sandler to John Podesta: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/54496 The house is discussed in this thread : https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1501728 and in another thread, which I'll try to find and send to you.

I still didn't get the other post's link. I'm not an investigator, just lurking and trying to get you guys the links so you can connect the dots on your own. Also there is the 'Sotheby card' connection that should be looked into in the same thread.

P.S. The key points of the 1501728 thread:

1-There was indeed a party held by the Podestas at that house on Aug 23, where they played "dominos."

2-The realtor that lists that house is part of Sotheby's. Sotheby's isn't just an art museum Podesta likes, it's also the realty of the house the party was in. Sotheby's also holds auctions and trades diamonds. Sotheby's may be a one-stop-shop for these people and the cards may be some kind of secret pass.

Votescam ago

Ying -- Thank you for acknowledging me -- but I'm also just a reader here watching the amazing research being done -- and like you wishing I could help.
Concerned I caused you work -- "WikiLeaks email" would have been sufficient reply. I'm wondering if "Card" like other words has a dual meaning. Obviously, it is a key to extra privileges via Soetheby's.

True -- Sotheby's remains very interesting, for many reasons.

I can very much see the need for investigators to concentrate specifically on what directly connects to pizzagate - Clinton Foundation/Hillary/Podestas/Alefantis -- but as we can see without even trying there are realtors and agencies involved. One of the posts offered suggested that the realtor "Kate" was either pre-involved or later involved via the B/W handkerchief and it was suggested may have also assisted with the girl left behind, who it is also suggested came from DC/Comet Pizza and "homeless." Someone to take her to the airport?
We also very much see this is generational historically, father to child. We also know that survivors have discussed this -- i.e., being abused by father who then somehow comes to attention of CIA/MKULTRA and father hands child off to them and is financially rewarded. It seems clear that any kind of abuse of a child results in "scarring of the brain" as I've seen it described.
Certainly, CIA/MKULTRA in its simplest mind control program is advocating torture and sexual abuse to create new personalities which can then also be programmed. All while the subject goes on about life without being aware of what other lives he/she is living. Perhaps there are explanations we need to understand. Could anyone doing the things these people are doing actually go on with their lives in public without reflecting the things they are doing secretly without breaking down? I continue to doubt that. In the Podesta's, we have two brothers involved which leads me to think it was a generational arrangement -- perhaps via the Mother? In Hillary and Bill Clinton's cases, we certainly know there is CIA involvement by the time of Mena, Ark when they he (as Governor) is helping cover up CIA/drug-gun running. But they may have also become involved with CIA/MKULTRA at Yale? Or even earlier in their childhoods as both of their families seems to have connections to organized crime. (Many people get upset when I suggest these possibilities as they see it as sympathetic to these people while I'm just trying to figure out what's really going on.) Somehow it also seems that the number of pedophiles we are seeing internationally suggests that this abuse is creating new pedophiles. We have to keep in mind that when a child is abused they do not necessarily go on to abuse others -- but a certain number of them do so. The more children who are tortured and abused, the greater the chance of creating new pedophiles.

What might be the limits of involvement if we also add in the military? See Kate Griggs/YouTube.

ALSO ... Please see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KnSwOQzJuA by Christina Marlowe She speaks for a few minutes about what she has covered in earlier videos -- but very quickly conducts a tour of the underground tunnels she is aware of. And very close to the Pentagon.

I'm sure we all want to know how and where these children are being held. How children from other countries are being brought into the US as far as passports, unaccompanied by a parent. Intelligence connections? The trafficking locations seem to be clear -- East Coast/West Coast close enough to DC and Hollywood and Florida, I believe has been mentioned.
And wonder if with the investigations of pizzagate going on if they are feeling an increased need to move children around?

Also, the numbers of children being kidnapped in US every year ranging now from 500,000 to 800,000 suggests that the FBI is doing nothing to recover them. They can only hold onto these children for so long before there is a need to dispose of them? The new question then becomes how many ways they might have of disposing of the bodies?

Re this same video . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KnSwOQzJuA A report by a man named Tory Smith follows her comments before the tour of the tunnels. He is reporting on military abductions referenced as Mi-labs or My-labs? You need to listen to this yourself, but a general outline . . .

What he is saying is that 127 children from Child Protective Services in Canada were taken in January 2016 to Detroit via My-labs which is a US Child trafficking operation.
They were taken to DC via Indianapolis on HIGH SPEED RAIL trains built between 1995 and 2007 which connect all the My-labs and several other places like White House. They take elevator down to train station. Jump on train and go across the country.
(We can't do this he adds as we are required to keep driving our gas guzzling vehicles) --

-- From Washington, DC -- via My Lab #1 -- to LA in under 30 minutes. -- 2 major east/west lines -- one across Washington, DC, across Ohio, Indiana, out to Nebraska - and runs between 100 and 200 miles below Interstate 80.

-- Other connects Orlando, Atlanta, Jacksonville, Mississippi, Montgomery, Alabama and then off to Texas and to the Western My-labs.
- Also couple of other lines where he doesn't know exactly where they all are, but one runs through Indianapolis - a pretty busy hub.
Then also Denver which is considered the major hub.

  • From Indianapolis they can go down to Texas in just a couple of minutes.

-- Back to children -- 127 children went to 6 different locations --

  • Langley, Virginia -- most were taken there -- 81 of them - taken there in just a couple of minutes.

-- Pentagon - 5 children - gang raped by 76 men -- please check video for details.

  • Washington, DC -- My lab #1 or #2 not sure - 3 children

-- Wilmington, Delaware -- 4 children -- raped and murdered

  • Dallas my Lab -- 20 children raped and killed - 64 men involved

ZalesMcMuffin ago

Washington to LA in under 30 minutes means traveling 6000 MPH. That's many times the speed of sound. And Indianapolis is about 750 miles from Texas at a straight shot, so that would be over 20,000 MPH.

No way.

Votescam ago

Maybe it's time travel -- :)