While Wikileads #55433 is one of the most cited of the Podesta emails (the "pizza related map" one) there is an aspect that is only rarely mentioned. If you look at the original message from the realtor Kathryn Tate it states: "I just came from checking the Field house and I have a square cloth handkerchief (white w/ black) that was left on the kitchen island. Happy to send it via the mail if you let me know where I should send it." This was sent to Susan and Herbert Sandler. Note that nothing was stated in this email about pizza or a map. Ms. Tate sees this as nothing more than someone left a handkerchief and she wants to know where to send it.
So now Susan Sandler emails John Podesta with "The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yorus (sic)? They can send it if you want. I know you’re busy, so feel free not to respond if it’s not yours or you don’t want it." So where does Ms. Sandler get the idea that this handkerchief is "pizza related" or that it has a "map" from what Ms. Tate told her? It's not to be found. So it is clear that Ms. Sandler inferred from the description that the handkerchief was potentially important. It seems that she must know something about Podesta. A literal interpretation is clearly not correct and that the words pizza and map are a cryptic reference.
Using the PIzzaGate codes this is message makes sense in that Ms. Sandler was concerned that this handkerchief might have evidence of illicit activity. Podesta's response suggests that either this is not the case here or that he just isn't worried. At any rate this construction makes this far more evidential than simply to look at it as "pizza related map" .. WTF? Rather it indicates that Ms. Sandler is familiar with Podesta's activity or at a minimum strongly suspects it. She seeks to protect him.
https://wikileaks.com/podesta-emails/emailid/55433
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YingYangMom ago
I've brought the handkerchief email up in this post here, you might want to take a look. Also there was another sub that was linked and mentioned in it. It would be helpful to collect info from both of them.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1504159
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1501728
I really think this needs to be investigated further. You're on a good lead.
EDIT: The house in question is the Field House here :
http://www.wallacemv.com/real-estate/55-harbor-view-lane-vineyard-haven-ma02568/Harbor55/16917472
Votescam ago
Thank you -- how did you determine where the house was and that it is that particular one? But, obviously, given the size of it, there may have been others besides JPodesta staying there?
bolus ago
@votescam @yingyangmom
i've done days of research on the property, and found a few interesting items. most of it is summed up here:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1510472
quick synopsis -
when this email was written, the house was owned by someone named "Michael Field", hence "the field house" (http://archive.is/9vtOG))
the house is currently owned by one "Linda Comstock" (http://archive.is/T5i7n)) and as you found, rent-managed by Sotheby's
betwen those two owners, it was owned (or occupied) by power couple Melissa Moss and Jonathan Silver. (http://archive.is/T5i7n)) these two have come up multiple times in my research between alefantis and podesta...keep them on your short list of important players.
I completely agree that the strongest line of questioning/investigation should be directed at Sandler. I suspect that as soon as she heard that the realtor had left the handkerchief on the kitchen island, she bee-lined straight for it. I don't think the realtor knew what was what...if she did, she wouldn't have broken the chain of ownership. Sandler took possession of it, i'm sure.
writing on a napkin? yes, that makes sense. writing on a cloth hankerchief? ha ha, no.
in regards to the sotheby's connection: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1502076
i think the sotheby's preferred card is what fbianon meant by follow the cards. the program is for the hyper-elite, invite only.
Votescam ago
bolus -- Did your read my post with link to video which has a walk through of tunnels underneath DC? And -- even perhaps more importantly --- did you read Tory Smith's report on Hi-speed rail connections which supposedly exist?
Also . . . who is F. Blanon? Is that a poster here?
bolus ago
Sorry, FBIanon. Fbi-anon. The original 4chan tipster. Maybe real, maybe not? Led to a lot of information.
Votescam ago
Yes -- I finally figured it out!! But there is an undercover Intel agent with name of Bannon ... just to confuse things a bit more!
Thanks for the reply -- :)
Votescam ago
bolus -- Thank you for the amazing info you've gathered. I'm generally a reader here, contributing nothing -- but thank you. I've made note of the names and connections, however.
bolus ago
i was just a reader too, for a while, and i noticed that the same bits of information would be revealed and then dropped over and over again.
it's important that we A) duplicate research for verification but B) don't forget what we've already established, so i want people who make the same connections I've made to remember and reinforce them.
thanks.
Votescam ago
bolus -- there is a sticky thread which holds a summary of all information which has proven to be true. I check it from time to time to try to stay up on what's going on.
YingYangMom ago
Just wow. Nice work!
logjam ago
Note that it was referred to as the "Field" house and no the "field" house - what your saying makes sense.
YingYangMom ago
@Votescam
Good question. I did ask the same question and this is the answer I got.
I still didn't get the other post's link. I'm not an investigator, just lurking and trying to get you guys the links so you can connect the dots on your own. Also there is the 'Sotheby card' connection that should be looked into in the same thread.
P.S. The key points of the 1501728 thread:
1-There was indeed a party held by the Podestas at that house on Aug 23, where they played "dominos."
2-The realtor that lists that house is part of Sotheby's. Sotheby's isn't just an art museum Podesta likes, it's also the realty of the house the party was in. Sotheby's also holds auctions and trades diamonds. Sotheby's may be a one-stop-shop for these people and the cards may be some kind of secret pass.
Votescam ago
Ying -- Thank you for acknowledging me -- but I'm also just a reader here watching the amazing research being done -- and like you wishing I could help.
Concerned I caused you work -- "WikiLeaks email" would have been sufficient reply. I'm wondering if "Card" like other words has a dual meaning. Obviously, it is a key to extra privileges via Soetheby's.
True -- Sotheby's remains very interesting, for many reasons.
I can very much see the need for investigators to concentrate specifically on what directly connects to pizzagate - Clinton Foundation/Hillary/Podestas/Alefantis -- but as we can see without even trying there are realtors and agencies involved. One of the posts offered suggested that the realtor "Kate" was either pre-involved or later involved via the B/W handkerchief and it was suggested may have also assisted with the girl left behind, who it is also suggested came from DC/Comet Pizza and "homeless." Someone to take her to the airport?
We also very much see this is generational historically, father to child. We also know that survivors have discussed this -- i.e., being abused by father who then somehow comes to attention of CIA/MKULTRA and father hands child off to them and is financially rewarded. It seems clear that any kind of abuse of a child results in "scarring of the brain" as I've seen it described.
Certainly, CIA/MKULTRA in its simplest mind control program is advocating torture and sexual abuse to create new personalities which can then also be programmed. All while the subject goes on about life without being aware of what other lives he/she is living. Perhaps there are explanations we need to understand. Could anyone doing the things these people are doing actually go on with their lives in public without reflecting the things they are doing secretly without breaking down? I continue to doubt that. In the Podesta's, we have two brothers involved which leads me to think it was a generational arrangement -- perhaps via the Mother? In Hillary and Bill Clinton's cases, we certainly know there is CIA involvement by the time of Mena, Ark when they he (as Governor) is helping cover up CIA/drug-gun running. But they may have also become involved with CIA/MKULTRA at Yale? Or even earlier in their childhoods as both of their families seems to have connections to organized crime. (Many people get upset when I suggest these possibilities as they see it as sympathetic to these people while I'm just trying to figure out what's really going on.) Somehow it also seems that the number of pedophiles we are seeing internationally suggests that this abuse is creating new pedophiles. We have to keep in mind that when a child is abused they do not necessarily go on to abuse others -- but a certain number of them do so. The more children who are tortured and abused, the greater the chance of creating new pedophiles.
What might be the limits of involvement if we also add in the military? See Kate Griggs/YouTube.
ALSO ... Please see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KnSwOQzJuA by Christina Marlowe She speaks for a few minutes about what she has covered in earlier videos -- but very quickly conducts a tour of the underground tunnels she is aware of. And very close to the Pentagon.
I'm sure we all want to know how and where these children are being held. How children from other countries are being brought into the US as far as passports, unaccompanied by a parent. Intelligence connections? The trafficking locations seem to be clear -- East Coast/West Coast close enough to DC and Hollywood and Florida, I believe has been mentioned.
And wonder if with the investigations of pizzagate going on if they are feeling an increased need to move children around?
Also, the numbers of children being kidnapped in US every year ranging now from 500,000 to 800,000 suggests that the FBI is doing nothing to recover them. They can only hold onto these children for so long before there is a need to dispose of them? The new question then becomes how many ways they might have of disposing of the bodies?
Re this same video . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KnSwOQzJuA A report by a man named Tory Smith follows her comments before the tour of the tunnels. He is reporting on military abductions referenced as Mi-labs or My-labs? You need to listen to this yourself, but a general outline . . .
What he is saying is that 127 children from Child Protective Services in Canada were taken in January 2016 to Detroit via My-labs which is a US Child trafficking operation.
They were taken to DC via Indianapolis on HIGH SPEED RAIL trains built between 1995 and 2007 which connect all the My-labs and several other places like White House. They take elevator down to train station. Jump on train and go across the country.
(We can't do this he adds as we are required to keep driving our gas guzzling vehicles) --
-- From Washington, DC -- via My Lab #1 -- to LA in under 30 minutes. -- 2 major east/west lines -- one across Washington, DC, across Ohio, Indiana, out to Nebraska - and runs between 100 and 200 miles below Interstate 80.
-- Other connects Orlando, Atlanta, Jacksonville, Mississippi, Montgomery, Alabama and then off to Texas and to the Western My-labs.
- Also couple of other lines where he doesn't know exactly where they all are, but one runs through Indianapolis - a pretty busy hub.
Then also Denver which is considered the major hub.
-- Back to children -- 127 children went to 6 different locations --
-- Pentagon - 5 children - gang raped by 76 men -- please check video for details.
-- Wilmington, Delaware -- 4 children -- raped and murdered
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Washington to LA in under 30 minutes means traveling 6000 MPH. That's many times the speed of sound. And Indianapolis is about 750 miles from Texas at a straight shot, so that would be over 20,000 MPH.
No way.
Votescam ago
Maybe it's time travel -- :)
Votescam ago
From what I recall of the highest speeds we've been told about UFO's sightings has been around 1400 mph. But other reports suggest that sightings right after WWII say the speeds were 3000 to 4000 mph. Imagine what they can do now.
I think the first question is .... who is involved in this child and human trafficking -- Is our CIA involved?
What of the tunnels under DC -- do they exist and are there secret tunnels?
This is the video I was referencing -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KnSwOQzJuA
It's a very brief video -- go to about 6 minutes to see Tory Smith's report on the trafficking of children -- and at about 9 on the video, the tour of the tunnels begins.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Yeah, I watched the video. I can totally believe there are extensive tunnels under DC. 20k MPH trains, not so much.
And yeah, the CIA being involved is about as shocking as pro wrestling being fake.
YingYangMom ago
I appreciate the long report and the effort you've put in. Everything is a possibility, but there is just too much unreliable sourcing going on for it to be evidence in any way. Mrs. Marlowe is, I'm sure, a very well-intentioned person with connections to international organisations. However, credibility and man power are lacking. Also, this Tory Smith is a psychic, which doesn't help our case. It's all conspiracy theory as far as we know. Nothing concrete coming out of this. As much as I would love to see concrete evidence presented here to pin point the perpetrators and their satanic evil plans and acts, it remains a 'theory' or a 'vision' until concrete evidence can be presented. Still very interesting though.