Well, that explains why I just had two posts about pizzagate on CL deleted promptly. Curious, I went through some us cities rants and raves and pizzagate wasn't in any of them. There's just one in DC.

I didn't think Craig Newmark was involved in CL anymore.

No we need to get direct with this.

RICO is a way to do this. Civil Rico is a tool to use to compensate the victims.

Just because the victims aren't known now doesn't mean that they can't sue using a trust concept. The lawyers here will know what I'm talking about but basically victims have a right to have their claims represented by a trustee who would then place funds won at trial into an account for them once they are identified.

Since Craig is willing to spend so much money to deflect this, I'm sure there's plenty of evidence of criminal abuse, rape, torture, pedophilia, kidnapping, trafficking and on and on that transacts on craigslist with their full knowledge and support.

It's time to act and get lawyers involved by suing these wealthy criminals and facilitators.

I am not comfortable hanging the blame on Craig Newmark for what child traffickers did. Unless Craig is in on the pedo ring, then this to me seems like CTR misdirection. Focus on the people who actually drug, rape and murder children, folks.

If you can find a way to create full world employment (so that it's possible that nobody would need to prostitute themselves in order to earn a living), you'll be the first person in history and possibly save the world from starvation, poverty, and war.

In the meantime, I hope everyone will back down from making accusative language. We can debate this topic in a civil way. I am thankful for those who have done so.

“I just want some news I can trust.”

How ironic then that you are donating 1000000 dollars to help attack and subjugate the REAL news on the internet.. What a cuck..

it's not a profession, it's a result of opportunities available relative to someone's specific situation

We could apply that line of thinking to any job someone works. Cool, you made a non point.

Job satisfaction does not equate to public safety. your job does not absolve of your responsibility to others. so those that do dangerous jobs are often surrounded by trustworthy people who work very hard to provide someone with confidence while they work. you haven't addressed my points, only said they don't matter.

Your point was that people shouldn't do these jobs because they're dangerous and unskilled. My point was that people do these dangerous jobs regardless because they feel satisfied doing the work. You can ignore job satisfaction all you want, but it's a thing, and it's a perfectly valid reason to do something. At the end of the day, saying being a prostitute should be illegal because it's dangerous, is a shit fucking reason. As you stated, there's a safe way to do dangerous things, but you refuse to mentally bridge that gap over to prostitution because it's already illegal. Nevada has legal brothels and people are generally safe. If you want to ignore reality, then yes, your points do no matter.

the aristocrat in you has spoken, clearly. clean your own fucking toilets, it's not that hard. everything you've mentioned has no relative association to sex work. those are safe, and generally carefree environments. you're on a tangent, come back and play with me.

Try reading that again. One of your points is that you snub your nose at jobs due to the lack of education required to do them. You made that point implicatively. Insisting otherwise is disingenuous. The point here is that if everyone had an education, we'd still need people to do the other jobs we don't think about. It's not wrong, morally, ethically, or otherwise, to not want to clean the bathroom for hundreds of people in a building when you also have other tasks that are your main tasks for the day to handle. Fuck you for insisting otherwise, and fuck you for ignoring the comment about needing people to take trash to the dump.

You have not given any valid reasons to your stance on why you feel the way you do which is my initial point. Not a single valid reason.

Here's the bigger story and the tie-ins into Tampa Bay Times, Scrubbed news, etc:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1516310

If you can, you should reference this post to make sure the larger picture is known. Thanks for your hard work.

You don't need to come out and say that you don't view the profession highly. Everything you've written gives a strong implication towards a statement of that nature and insisting otherwise is disingenuous.

Your points of contention lack merit because you ultimately ignore one large defining factor when it comes to any profession - job satisfaction. There are many dangerous jobs out there both to the people who do them, and to the community that surrounds them, and they are quite legal, yet enough people still do them.

The other large factor you're ignoring is that education isn't everything, though according to your initial comment in this chain you make it appear that way. We still need people working in the service industry at at the lowest levels, and having an education there doesn't matter. If everyone was educated greatly where they felt they were better than those jobs, much in the same way that you snub your nose at prostitution, we'd have no one working those jobs. That bathroom in the large office building people work in? Now you have to clean that and do whatever other work you do. The garbage for the building needs taken out? Depending on the building, have fun figuring out the logistics of that train wreck where suddenly everyone is responsible for their own trash. But it gets even better. You don't need education to drive a garbage truck, so we don't need people doing that. Who then takes the trash to the dump?

Your stance is entirely fucking retarded. It has all the signs of someone being on their high horse and not actually thinking about their stance. But you continue to do you and snub your nose at people who work these in these uneducated positions who might either use the job as a means to an end, be self employed and make their own hours perhaps, or people who enjoy what they do.

The owner of backpage.com is guilty of letting this go on as well....Im sure he's got his hands into something as well

Says the white knight of pedophiles. I'm guessing you are either a paid shill or a pedophile yourself. Possibly both.

Just to offer some perspective on how common this sort of thing really is-

I knew a woman who sat jury duty on a case where they had set up a sting operation through Craigslist. The officers pretentno be a desparate mother offering time alone with her kids for money. In this case the guy only wanted the little boy; but she had a girl too. They ask them to bring something that shows intent so they prosecute, like condoms. This guy brought a dog collar.

Apparently these cops do this round the clock they are fully dedicated to these stings and get multiple replies for every post. That's how many people are using that site for prostitution of kids.

I've known for a long time that craigslist is massive NSA honeypot and data collection effort, or at the very least work with the NSA and other intelligence agencies...

this is from 2 years ago:

Are Craigslist Discussion Forum Trolls Part of a Wider NSA Program To Control Debate Online? "Liberal" Craig Newmark & "Libertarian/Anarchist" Jim Buckmaster, founder and CEO of craigslist direct staff to routinely censor discussions which are anti-establishment.

You spend an awful lot of time here saying the same thing over & over. What are you hiding?

Some of you are making threats. Once le gets involved you tin foil hatters will have to scurry to some other dark corner...just like cockroaches. Pizza gate is fake news.

I have been reading these replies. You pizzagaters need professional help. I am archiving the threats and lies too. Pizzagate is fake news.

That's not really a damning opinion of why prostitution should be illegal. It's just you saying, "because I don't view it highly".

I thought I blocked this freak. Isn't it like on Facebook where if you block them you don't have to see their idiocy?

Please put Chelsea on the ticket in 2020, Trump will use her like a doormat.

"Chelsea in 2020" Pathetic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Newmark

Wow. Don't you just love how the people doing evil can give money, in the name of research or a charity, and act like they are doing it for something good? Many times the charity descriptions sound great but it's written in a way to where you don't understand what the heck it all really means unless you dig. It's been known for a long time that Craigslist has prostitution advertised. That is what should be shut down!! This man sickens me.

I have to ask, not meant as derail, I just don't understand - how do these women and CHILDREN physically survive that much sex? Don't they have to see physicians at some point? I mean 10 hours a night for weeks, months even years? I do not doubt their testimony. I just don't understand how the human body can do this repeatedly. I know there are victims of "mondo" style porn that have to have internal surgery. Is there a medical angle here? Is there an underground of doctors that patch pedo victims up and don't say a word, nurses? clinics? There is so much testimony like this out there.

This is how human trafficking gets political advocacy. This is how abortion law just happens to meet pimps every need. Some portion of today's policy is tailored to them.

It separates my posts from the posts by the bot I have running on my account.

The random images are a way to get around Voat's similar comment throttling and act as a declaration of bias.

Seems about right, just like reddit, protect the pedophiles while persecuting those who try to expose it. Just shows how far ranging the satanic pedo cult really is.

Its not legal because it is too hard to tax.

Ah, Craigslist, where daily every scam in every category and every crime in the book; as any reports to them are never even answered, once you finally find their email in the maze.

Where daily the private parts are posted, and ones do ads for every age, every sexual deviation in the book, including beastiality.

Yah, Mr. Craigslist is the epitomy of upstanding citizen and safety awards.

And, there are billions of every topic of false news, bully, gossip, fights filmed and body parts and all, over the web; yet this one topic has so much ATTN on it to stop. Never knew pizza, hotdogs or govt corruption were only allowed allowed to be discussed by the elite. What next, icecream, Pringles, cheetohs, water, head start?

Wait, Hillary always stated it takes a village to save a child. All over the govt entities is report fraud and suspicion, if you see something, say something; even posted on public buses and transit rails/subways.

All over, look at even Office of Inspector General Reports for any state, and public laws is the rights for citizens to do reports, gather information, have access.

Yet, because it makes some have similar affects of CRANKMETH upcoming withdrawals, panic/anxiety; suddenly all public involvement or discussion on general topics is to be overmonitired, bullied, harrased, the big no no, shame and guilt the citizens of USA and world for having a chat, discussing, and having ethics and normal concern for children?

Perhaps, we are just really into the art of cuisine of making pizzas? Hey, the elite are into sugar art, #skeemart, are we guilt shaming then like sugar ho withdrawal addicts?

How many judges, courts, attorneys, senators having done legal moves and Foia requests?/ Is that just a false reality?

How much of our tax dollars, pay them, med and life insurance them, pay for all Dept's to run and supplies? Its our money, not theirs.

Now, isn't that aggraduzed bullying, stalking, harrasment to be anal retentive riding backs and peering into our right to speak to each other from A,-z? So, whom need to get a life, and perhaps sit on vibrators as therapy, till they rid this anal retentive, crankmeth ho withdrawal anal mentalities away??

We are supposed to bow down and stop exercising our mind and speech, because "they," say so? You mean they that always RATMAZE us on their phones, ride, demeaningly with mind games and never get a heck what we say, as paid on our tax dollars?

Where is liberty, consutition, privacy, collective rights? Are we in USA, or are they saying its Putin for think we are all in their warped reality and its Stalin times?

Are we to just sit and paint, pedo holocaust scenes to be left alone or get an opp to make the American dream and be accepted?

Have they hjacked even comedy, too? Maybe we are just cresting the next qualitative leap in comedy as awareness. Maybe, we are all just researching and chatting, creating the next movie.

Who are they to assume and generalize by giving us labels that discriminate and over generalize? I don't fit not one of those labels, and as I have spent ample time in, "know the self," who are they to describe me or others in such FALSE fraud labels of news.

There are billions in this world, but suddenly we are supposed to bow down, be shut up, harrased and tyrannized by some ugly, rich, phat, regressed adults?/

Mr. Craig will pay a million bucks to shut up one piece of conversation in trillions, but not clean.up his site or donate to the poor, homeless, etc?

Is not a society judged by how the most vulnerable are treated, but now your a bad boy and girl to even think to discuss the children, our future, ones who can't speak up for themselves.

Hey, MADD, mothers Ag drink driving got presidential awards.

Well, let me go and keep planning my Pizza ship, paint gory crime scenes for I want my American Dream and my self confidence and rights are so low, I must, must please the sado maso and have my ego constantly stroked to give me any sort of fake fraud worth!!

Am I having a program glitch?? Will we all have some hotard regressed adult, bopping in our paths, "NO, DONT scrub your toilet that way, how dare you scrub like a kkk extremist , bible thumper, basement dweller! Rub a dub, rub a dub, rub on rub off, rub that cock, do as your told!!"

Oops gotta go, pizza delivery guy is here and it does go well with the chicken!

Achieving an education that makes good employment simple is easier said than done. Besides, do we want a nanny state telling us which jobs are bad because they don't require much of an education?

Nobody knows the consequences of their job, much less their life on this planet (as our investigation well demonstrates). Everyone takes risks. So long as those risks are freely chosen, there is nothing wrong with taking on risks. Workers do that. Investors do that. Everyone does that to a degree.

This is a good debate to have happen without this topic. Thank you for entering into it as a friendly participant.

I would like to lend another perspective to this discussion. I'm one of the pizzagate researchers like most everyone else here, but I believe that prostitution should be legal, or at the very least be decriminalized. And I believe that the push to have craigslist shut down that aspect of its site hurt sex workers and trafficked victims. For this reason, I would like to be careful in formulating a view of Craig Newmark and his motivations. I honestly don't know enough to venture a reasonable guess about them.

But my view on the economic of consensual sex between adults is well summed up by George Carlin: "Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. Why isn't selling fucking legal?"

To me, this is much like the War on Drugs, which has allowed our CIA to run profitable drug operations and has driven shame and drug abuse underground to the point that it has destroyed people.

The more open and legal prostitution is, the easier it is for clients to find legal (adult) sex workers (making child sex workers less marketable!) and the easier it is to rescue trafficked children. Personally, I've always worried that the end of the craigslist sex market just drove the trade further underground making it harder to distinguish between consenting sex workers and sex slaves (where "slave" is the operate word).

Maybe Newmark's intentions are good, and maybe they aren't. I don't feel like I'm being presented with information that informs me in those regards.

I never bothered to look the guy up but after doing so I realized I'd punch him right in his smug face.

These women need a lawyer who will file a RICO suit.

Craig Newmark implicated in history's biggest coverup: The Elite/PedoRing/ChildTrafficking is the biggest story, biggest coverup in history. Craigslist.com's founder's site is the Internet hub for child trafficking.

https://archive.is/HYsbS :

Craigslist is hub for child prostitution, allege trafficked women | Technology | The Guardian

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