Am I the only one that thinks David Seaman is doing a poor job of documenting the ongoing research in this sub?
He has really only covered the basic/initial findings of pizzagate and has never done in-depth summaries of the new information we've compiled (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1517819)). His videos are just repetitive rambles instead of comprehensive summaries. He needs to get into the nitty gritty details and he has avoided doing so thus far.
Here is an example of a superbly made video which David should strive for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCzgogEQMQs (This video isn't strictly pizzagate related - I'm demonstrating the style of video) These types of videos present actual information with pictures/evidence/infographics and are far more structured than someone rambling on his webcam.
He is an investigative journalist, the most credible researcher we have on our side, yet he simply turns on his webcam, and discusses pizzagate in the most generic fashion, instead of creating 'documentary-style' analysis videos of all current and up-to date research.
General has a place too IMO....he tends to ask simple common sense questions to illustrate the hypocrisy of the media and the very real cover up that is going on. David is obviously directing his videos at not yet red-pilled normies.
It has it's place, that's true, but it should be balanced with more in depth content for those who want to dig deeper. If people are relying on him for up to date pizzagate info, which I suspect many must be, he needs to at least provide an avenue to where the current discussion is, either by recreating our written investigative work into video format on his own channel, or by telling his subs that voat is the place to go.
YES! Agreed. I reached out to him on YouTube and pointed him here, but he never responded. Maybe if some more people politely contacted him in a very sane manner he might respond? I say polite and sane because the dude is probably on edge right now...what with all of the suicides, exploding cars, killer barbells and heart attacks going on right now.
I wonder if the weed helps? I haven't smoked since HS and I don't think I did it right because I just got really F'n hungry and paranoid. Can't wait until my state is legal though...gonna give it another try, for science.
I think its a combo of what is feasible now and risking the comfort zones. Limits on advocacy occur as go deeper. But do think we need to create group YouTube shows that do not show faces, mirror them, etc. Also, any techies that can create new internet on dig broadband/frequencies, social.platforms like YouTube? I know he has moved to a dif site, just thinking ahead.
Cbradio internet/social sites?
Changing pizzagate to another phrase, let the Dilbert have their untrademarked phrase for they want what they want, when they want it.
No sharing in the sandbox, regressed adults.
I think he's being careful only to comment on what concrete evidence there is. He doesn't want to give YT more reason to shut him down. He is afterall an investigative journalist and is probably trying to verify the massive amount of leads voat researchers have been providing.
Well no pizzagate evidence so far is 'concrete'. It's all circumstantial, but what makes that substantial is the sheer number of circumstantial coincidences. His initial videos covered the amanda kleinman speech at CPP and jimmy's instagram pictures - both of which are not 'concrete' - no reason why he can't and shouldn't continue. Youtube will not take him down.
I'm going to guess that it was you that down-voted my comment. If it wasn't you, I apologise, if it was you, re-read what I said and tell me where I said something that wasn't accurate.
In addition, Dave is saying that he's not doing this and he's not doing that. I have taken a screencap of this video where he says he hasn't slandered anyone https://snag.gy/Xwrgoz.jpg We have to deal in facts, not assumptions and not baseless accusations. This screencap shows that he calls John Podesta a Pedophile; like it or not that is slander (at this point) because we haven't yet technically proven anything. This is the reality of what we are up against; if someone makes an accusation then the other side can pick holes in it, and as things are David Seaman is leaving a lot of holes to be picked at. Me, or anyone else questioning someone should not draw things like down-votes, it is a legitimate part of the investigative process to question everything to ensure its factual accuracy. So, go ahead...find a hole in what I've said.
There are videos on YouTube calling Joe Biden a pedophile.
Granted his roving hands on young girls can easily be seen in the videos, whereas evidence re John Podesta amounts to email comments which match with code words used by pedophiles. Pedophile art. Invitations to what appear to be Satanic dinners. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8o3WUKP8M
and this one of little girl in dress with black top/red skirt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2oIM37dWU
There is a quite clear copy of that video which I can't find at the moment.
Wasn't me that downvoted you. I'm all for an open dialogue. I've also had the same thought regarding David's videos. It does seem like a regurgitation of what I've already discovered on voat. Just wanted to offer the flip side of why he's not going into more detail that we see here on voat. His video are pretty palatable to a main stream audience so I hope he doesn't back down. Although, it would be nice for him to throw up a link directing people to voat so that they can educate themselves and decide what they want to believe. I mean I started questioning his intentions when he started making what seem like infomercials for goldmoney and bitcoin, but then again it's his channel and if he feels the need to share this info with his audience more power to him. With msm shoving narratives down our throats we must question every source and think for ourselves.
Any investigative journalist worth his salt will not get facts like that wrong. He ruffled my feathers weeks ago when he 'broke' the news that David Brock was affiliated with Alefantis. All of us covering this thing found that out in the first few days/weeks, the timing of that 'revelation' smacked of someone that didn't really know the info involved in this thing at all.
I don't know why this is being downvoted, it's a good example of his lack of professionalism/effort. He needs to step up his game, or someone else has to. This sub needs to be presented in video form to the masses who don't even know this place exists.
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euclidean ago
Am I the only one that thinks David Seaman is doing a poor job of documenting the ongoing research in this sub?
He has really only covered the basic/initial findings of pizzagate and has never done in-depth summaries of the new information we've compiled (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1517819)). His videos are just repetitive rambles instead of comprehensive summaries. He needs to get into the nitty gritty details and he has avoided doing so thus far.
Here is an example of a superbly made video which David should strive for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCzgogEQMQs (This video isn't strictly pizzagate related - I'm demonstrating the style of video) These types of videos present actual information with pictures/evidence/infographics and are far more structured than someone rambling on his webcam.
He is an investigative journalist, the most credible researcher we have on our side, yet he simply turns on his webcam, and discusses pizzagate in the most generic fashion, instead of creating 'documentary-style' analysis videos of all current and up-to date research.
witch_doctor1 ago
General has a place too IMO....he tends to ask simple common sense questions to illustrate the hypocrisy of the media and the very real cover up that is going on. David is obviously directing his videos at not yet red-pilled normies.
euclidean ago
It has it's place, that's true, but it should be balanced with more in depth content for those who want to dig deeper. If people are relying on him for up to date pizzagate info, which I suspect many must be, he needs to at least provide an avenue to where the current discussion is, either by recreating our written investigative work into video format on his own channel, or by telling his subs that voat is the place to go.
witch_doctor1 ago
YES! Agreed. I reached out to him on YouTube and pointed him here, but he never responded. Maybe if some more people politely contacted him in a very sane manner he might respond? I say polite and sane because the dude is probably on edge right now...what with all of the suicides, exploding cars, killer barbells and heart attacks going on right now.
I wonder if the weed helps? I haven't smoked since HS and I don't think I did it right because I just got really F'n hungry and paranoid. Can't wait until my state is legal though...gonna give it another try, for science.
SChalice ago
He seems a little narcissistic but I think anyone who makes videos of themselves must be.
Cbradio ago
I think its a combo of what is feasible now and risking the comfort zones. Limits on advocacy occur as go deeper. But do think we need to create group YouTube shows that do not show faces, mirror them, etc. Also, any techies that can create new internet on dig broadband/frequencies, social.platforms like YouTube? I know he has moved to a dif site, just thinking ahead.
Cbradio internet/social sites?
Changing pizzagate to another phrase, let the Dilbert have their untrademarked phrase for they want what they want, when they want it. No sharing in the sandbox, regressed adults.
unrealisthenewreal ago
I think he's being careful only to comment on what concrete evidence there is. He doesn't want to give YT more reason to shut him down. He is afterall an investigative journalist and is probably trying to verify the massive amount of leads voat researchers have been providing.
euclidean ago
Well no pizzagate evidence so far is 'concrete'. It's all circumstantial, but what makes that substantial is the sheer number of circumstantial coincidences. His initial videos covered the amanda kleinman speech at CPP and jimmy's instagram pictures - both of which are not 'concrete' - no reason why he can't and shouldn't continue. Youtube will not take him down.
Yuke ago
I'm going to guess that it was you that down-voted my comment. If it wasn't you, I apologise, if it was you, re-read what I said and tell me where I said something that wasn't accurate. In addition, Dave is saying that he's not doing this and he's not doing that. I have taken a screencap of this video where he says he hasn't slandered anyone https://snag.gy/Xwrgoz.jpg We have to deal in facts, not assumptions and not baseless accusations. This screencap shows that he calls John Podesta a Pedophile; like it or not that is slander (at this point) because we haven't yet technically proven anything. This is the reality of what we are up against; if someone makes an accusation then the other side can pick holes in it, and as things are David Seaman is leaving a lot of holes to be picked at. Me, or anyone else questioning someone should not draw things like down-votes, it is a legitimate part of the investigative process to question everything to ensure its factual accuracy. So, go ahead...find a hole in what I've said.
Votescam ago
There are videos on YouTube calling Joe Biden a pedophile. Granted his roving hands on young girls can easily be seen in the videos, whereas evidence re John Podesta amounts to email comments which match with code words used by pedophiles. Pedophile art. Invitations to what appear to be Satanic dinners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8o3WUKP8M and this one of little girl in dress with black top/red skirt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2oIM37dWU There is a quite clear copy of that video which I can't find at the moment.
This is a clearer version of Biden's behavior with the little girl with black top/red dress. At about 1:06 on the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd8o3WUKP8M
Actually, originally ALL of these videos were crystal clear -- suddenly seem to be being replaced with fuzzy videos.
unrealisthenewreal ago
Wasn't me that downvoted you. I'm all for an open dialogue. I've also had the same thought regarding David's videos. It does seem like a regurgitation of what I've already discovered on voat. Just wanted to offer the flip side of why he's not going into more detail that we see here on voat. His video are pretty palatable to a main stream audience so I hope he doesn't back down. Although, it would be nice for him to throw up a link directing people to voat so that they can educate themselves and decide what they want to believe. I mean I started questioning his intentions when he started making what seem like infomercials for goldmoney and bitcoin, but then again it's his channel and if he feels the need to share this info with his audience more power to him. With msm shoving narratives down our throats we must question every source and think for ourselves.
Yuke ago
You're not alone, I have my suspicions about him. For an investigative journalist not only is he covering the same 'initial findings' and then ranting away, as you say, he is also throwing in either late, or poorly founded claims, here and there. For example, in the video linked he says that Breitbart called John Podesta a Pedo. No, he didn't, he suggested he was covering up for pedo's http://i0.wp.com/www.2nd2no.com/wp-content/plugins/RSSPoster_PRO/cache/c6370_fJvIJoFBvFL67EDbe4g8xnKnRvWnLXahm6MR5nMWSRM.jpg?resize=745%2C530
Any investigative journalist worth his salt will not get facts like that wrong. He ruffled my feathers weeks ago when he 'broke' the news that David Brock was affiliated with Alefantis. All of us covering this thing found that out in the first few days/weeks, the timing of that 'revelation' smacked of someone that didn't really know the info involved in this thing at all.
speckledcat ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nEdvDWcp2M&t=3s
he just came out as a shill for Zionists - his real agenda
euclidean ago
I don't know why this is being downvoted, it's a good example of his lack of professionalism/effort. He needs to step up his game, or someone else has to. This sub needs to be presented in video form to the masses who don't even know this place exists.
ALDO_NOVA ago
spot on - I admire the guy for putting himself out there - but his skill & knowledge is lacking