When everyone thinks the main majestic ape is amanda and your over hear knowing its James Alefantis.
One thing I've noticed is he has a lot of people on here who are super determined to convince you it's her and not him. I'm convinced it is James Alefantis most of the time and he plays a much bigger part in all of this than meets the eye.
Majestic ape is a-man-duh! It's right in front of you- the truth, that is.
She should be reported. There's no way she should be working with children. Weren't there also violent images of children in the Heavy Breathing videos? And she mentioned how her students loved the Majestic Ape site ... no, they should not know about her activities.
Post Graduate work at The Corcoran College of Art and Design could have put Amanda Kleinman in contact with Alefantis through Interactions with Alefantis's art foundation Transformer.
The Apes (sometimes just Apes) are a noisy, guitarless garage rock foursome from Washington, D.C.. The band formed in 1999 with the lineup of singer Paul Weil, keyboard player Amanda Kleinman (a teacher by day), bassist Erick Jackson, and drummer Jeff Schmid. They released their first EP themselves, two albums on the New York label Frenchkiss, and an EP on Planaria Records before moving to San Francisco's Birdman Records which released an EP and the band's third full-length album.
An Amanda Kleinman is listed in the Rate My Teachers site as having been an Elementary teacher at Nottingham Country Elementary School located in Katy, Texas
Seems like CTR are going all out to erase any references online about Amanda Kleinman. Only a few weeks back, her Myspace page was visible. I can't recall requesting an archive.org save, but it seems to have gone missing somewhat.
Here's a Google cache of Kleinman in one of her performances, cached from the MajesticApe page before it got deleted.
There was a music video where Majestic Ape takes off the mask and it is a man underneath. Not James A. I'm not 100% convinced that it's always the same person.
Since her previous band, Majestic Apes, I think disbanded, her current band, Heavy Breathing, has gone insanely dark. She's assumed the persona Majestic Ape, as seen on the Myspace page. Doing a search term "Majestic Ape Amanda Kleinman" reveals a lot of snippets of small individual results from social media posts where both terms are referenced. The direct references to her online social media pages have since been made private or deleted, but the internet never forgets, so I'm searching through archives.
My previous post where both her real name and stage name are referenced together on a student's Facebook post cannot be dismissed, and if your observation of the video where a man is behind the mask is to be considered, then the ambiguity she's trying to portray with the stage persona is most likely a ruse.
I actually don't remember it specifically and cannot be bothered to watch a bunch of those disgusting videos to find it. But, I promise you, there is a video, one of the later and more expensive/commercial ones, and it ends with the Majestic Ape/masked character slowly taking off the mask and revealing the face of a white man (somewhat handsome, but incredibly creepy). It happens in slow mo, like it's a big shocking revelation at the end of the video.
Also, not sure if this is relevant, but many people have speculated that James A. also poses as Majestic Ape sometimes. Not sure how credible that is. The music video ending is definitely real, I don't have any reason to lie about that.
Thing is, we can't rely on one video to disprove the assertion that Kleinman is Majestic Ape.
From the videos - her stance, the way she holds microphones - all seem to be similar to prior footage of her stage performances.
Submitter's picture above shows similar sunglasses being used over the ski-mask
My research on her over the past couple of hours has brought up many links between her name and stage name, her prior band, and as I'm about to post up, her LinkedIn page where she states in her CV her prior associations with "The Apes" and now "Heavy Breathing".
Perhaps check that the music videos are of one of the members of her band? There are lots of people who have "liked" that group, so any number of them, especially considering my findings of her art page where she's doing terrible "portraits" of people, could simply be given parts to play in the music videos.
The stage persona doesn't lie, though, and the crap she says (and the fact she tried to justify it as a "roasting" on her Facebook page) is damning enough to associate her with some sick, demented people.
I'm not trying to disassociate Kleinman from Majectic Ape. I agree with you that there is strong evidence that she is wearing the mask a lot of the time. I simply asking whether other people sometimes wear the mask, as was done very clearly at the end of one of these sick videos. I'm sure you did great work showing that Kleinman wears the mask, and I am glad that you have your heart in the right place and are doing good research. But that doesn't mean that she only wears the mask. It's at least an open possibility. If you saw the end of the music video, I think you would start to open your mind on this topic.
The fact that majority of the pictures resulting from a search of Kleinman and "Majestic Ape" are of her in that red ski mask is sufficient evidence to draw a conclusion that they are one and the same.
It's Amanda - her Myspace page has been removed or taken down, so we're only left with what's been archived.
Her Facebook page has also been taken down, but from the comments, she's saying that the Heavy Breathing roast that was recorded at CPP was just a "friendly roast". What kind of demented people make fun of euthanasia and killing babies?
Check out the archive of their FB page and connect the dots with people who are her fans - they're trying to cover for her, but it's obvious that flies are attracted to crap, so it might be prudent to look into those people who commented on her FB post.
I'm not sure if this is already known, but it seems as though Amanda has a Masters Degree in Special Education. While she works in the art field now, she may have had prior access to vulnerable children, and may still do so. Just throwing this out there.
Please archive that reference where you noticed her education qualifications, as there's an active attempt by the likes of CtR to erase anything relating to her.
The Myspace page is already down, and I can't seem to find an archive of it, however, I can see her "about me" page for her photo gallery work, http://www.amandakleinman.com/about/
Hello! Amanda from The Apes, here.I am attempting to build a blog about my art. I have two intentions-- 1) I am hoping to get work. I can do illustrations, portraits, comics, and graphic design. I am cheap, fast, and entertaining to work with. Try me. 2) I want to create a dialogue with my fellow artistic community. I often feel isolated when making art. There is very little art fellowship in my life. Let's talk. Leave comments. I will respond. Let's share ideas!
If that is "art", then it comes as no surprise that CPP would feature other third and fourth rate "artists" work.
Note that most of her drawings on that page are from 2008.
Note to moderators - this research on Kleinman is to establish prior association and expand the database on the CPP/Alefantis circle of friends (referring to the "birds of a feather" analogy). Going by CPP's open endorsement of Kleinman's current band, Heavy Breathing, and their disgusting website, stage performances, and utterly demented lyrics of their "music", it comes as no surprise that her music may be the anthems of choice for the sick degenerates perpetrating their demented movement.
VainFaxJax ago
Stop saying JA is MA, no fact, just theory, stop.
truthteller111 ago
When everyone thinks the main majestic ape is amanda and your over hear knowing its James Alefantis.
One thing I've noticed is he has a lot of people on here who are super determined to convince you it's her and not him. I'm convinced it is James Alefantis most of the time and he plays a much bigger part in all of this than meets the eye.
Majestic ape is a-man-duh! It's right in front of you- the truth, that is.
forno_a_legna ago
I disagree with you. From doing thorough research, the evidence points to AK being MA. The facial structure, the sunglasses, the voice.
quantokitty ago
She should be reported. There's no way she should be working with children. Weren't there also violent images of children in the Heavy Breathing videos? And she mentioned how her students loved the Majestic Ape site ... no, they should not know about her activities.
Solver2 ago
Post Graduate work at The Corcoran College of Art and Design could have put Amanda Kleinman in contact with Alefantis through Interactions with Alefantis's art foundation Transformer.
echo-sierra ago
Her LinkedIn profile is still visible, but cannot be archived due to LinkedIn site settings.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-kleinman-9647a534/de
(Note that her LinkedIn page cannot be viewed incognito, thus I have taken screen shots and redacted some information.)
Screen shot album: https://sli.mg/a/i4Bfer
forno_a_legna ago
Amanda's "Qualifications" archived: http://web.archive.org/web/20161226035404/http://www.amandakleinman.com/artist-cv/
echo-sierra ago
One more from an archive of information about Kleinman being a teacher.
http://dbpedia.org/page/The_Apes
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20161226024833/http://dbpedia.org/page/The_Apes
echo-sierra ago
This is her band's blog from 2007.
Already been archived to ensure CTR don't get to erase the evidence.
Digging into the uploaded pictures only shows run-off-the-mill pics of a second or third rate band on a road trip.
https://web.archive.org/web/20161226022218/http://blog.theapes.com/uploaded_images/
An Amanda Kleinman is listed in the Rate My Teachers site as having been an Elementary teacher at Nottingham Country Elementary School located in Katy, Texas
http://www.ratemyteachers.com/amanda-kleinman/4215867-t
No proof or indication that this is one and the same, but this is loosely corroborative of the claim of her being a teacher.
Also, a since-deleted Facebook post identifying someone going by the name "Apes" as being a music teacher.
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:r_NjBjmSyrYJ:https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php%3Fstory_fbid%3D10150181454393460%26id%3D14708453459+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Screen shot in case Google start actively erasing their caches. https://i.sli.mg/21VuSH.png
hanknut42 ago
ugh she prob used the skimask to trick her students into abusing them what a sick sick person she/he is tranny bastard!
Orange_Circle ago
I wonder if that's how she got the images of babies she used in Neutered Noel?
She needs to answer for the young boy, nude, tied to the table with blood on his butt cheeks.
pizzagape ago
She has lots of access to hotards as J.A. eloquently put it.
Orange_Circle ago
I just wonder why those people turned out to be such perverts? Who in their right mind would ever think torture and pedophilia is ok?
party1981 ago
Did we figure out whether Majestic Ape is Amanda or James A or someone else?
echo-sierra ago
One more pic I've found from her since-deleted Myspace page.
https://a3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/123/332a1f1cf6ec4e71abc8897d2ec54107/300x300.jpg
Edit Search term used for images: "https://myspace.com/majesticape/photos"
Results with a few more pictures. https://a4-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/128/8a3bde0d9efe4acbb8667058c33818ab/300x300.jpg
Archive them while you can before they get removed completely.
echo-sierra ago
Seems like CTR are going all out to erase any references online about Amanda Kleinman. Only a few weeks back, her Myspace page was visible. I can't recall requesting an archive.org save, but it seems to have gone missing somewhat.
Here's a Google cache of Kleinman in one of her performances, cached from the MajesticApe page before it got deleted.
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fM-fxALHg1oJ:https://myspace.com/majesticape/mixes/classic-my-photos-366397/photo/95344369+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
party1981 ago
There was a music video where Majestic Ape takes off the mask and it is a man underneath. Not James A. I'm not 100% convinced that it's always the same person.
echo-sierra ago
Since her previous band, Majestic Apes, I think disbanded, her current band, Heavy Breathing, has gone insanely dark. She's assumed the persona Majestic Ape, as seen on the Myspace page. Doing a search term "Majestic Ape Amanda Kleinman" reveals a lot of snippets of small individual results from social media posts where both terms are referenced. The direct references to her online social media pages have since been made private or deleted, but the internet never forgets, so I'm searching through archives.
My previous post where both her real name and stage name are referenced together on a student's Facebook post cannot be dismissed, and if your observation of the video where a man is behind the mask is to be considered, then the ambiguity she's trying to portray with the stage persona is most likely a ruse.
echo-sierra ago
Link to video please?
party1981 ago
I actually don't remember it specifically and cannot be bothered to watch a bunch of those disgusting videos to find it. But, I promise you, there is a video, one of the later and more expensive/commercial ones, and it ends with the Majestic Ape/masked character slowly taking off the mask and revealing the face of a white man (somewhat handsome, but incredibly creepy). It happens in slow mo, like it's a big shocking revelation at the end of the video.
Also, not sure if this is relevant, but many people have speculated that James A. also poses as Majestic Ape sometimes. Not sure how credible that is. The music video ending is definitely real, I don't have any reason to lie about that.
echo-sierra ago
Thing is, we can't rely on one video to disprove the assertion that Kleinman is Majestic Ape.
Perhaps check that the music videos are of one of the members of her band? There are lots of people who have "liked" that group, so any number of them, especially considering my findings of her art page where she's doing terrible "portraits" of people, could simply be given parts to play in the music videos.
The stage persona doesn't lie, though, and the crap she says (and the fact she tried to justify it as a "roasting" on her Facebook page) is damning enough to associate her with some sick, demented people.
party1981 ago
I'm not trying to disassociate Kleinman from Majectic Ape. I agree with you that there is strong evidence that she is wearing the mask a lot of the time. I simply asking whether other people sometimes wear the mask, as was done very clearly at the end of one of these sick videos. I'm sure you did great work showing that Kleinman wears the mask, and I am glad that you have your heart in the right place and are doing good research. But that doesn't mean that she only wears the mask. It's at least an open possibility. If you saw the end of the music video, I think you would start to open your mind on this topic.
echo-sierra ago
The fact that majority of the pictures resulting from a search of Kleinman and "Majestic Ape" are of her in that red ski mask is sufficient evidence to draw a conclusion that they are one and the same.
Check out the picture on her LinkedIn page with the giant ice-cream: https://i.sli.mg/Xx9sP6.png
As for the man behind the mask, this was mentioned about a month back in the Kleinman discussion here on Voat.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1434482/6920633
echo-sierra ago
It's Amanda - her Myspace page has been removed or taken down, so we're only left with what's been archived.
Her Facebook page has also been taken down, but from the comments, she's saying that the Heavy Breathing roast that was recorded at CPP was just a "friendly roast". What kind of demented people make fun of euthanasia and killing babies?
https://archive.fo/TtRXJ
party1981 ago
CIA MK Ultra victims?
hanknut42 ago
yah and she used or her friend used a /u/ Tardbuster on reddit to defend her when this stuff broke so we see how she feels about her work
echo-sierra ago
Check out the archive of their FB page and connect the dots with people who are her fans - they're trying to cover for her, but it's obvious that flies are attracted to crap, so it might be prudent to look into those people who commented on her FB post.
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=57358
hanknut42 ago
yah she deleted some pics from her myspace which would of linked her to the pajama factory IE that killing room place where they found the dead girl
echo-sierra ago
I wonder where the dilapidated building behind her in this picture may be?
https://a1-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/141/48193304c6794f5f802db996c70b8fcd/300x300.jpg
hanknut42 ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1478179 it looks alot like the pajama factory aka kill room same state and everything
Criticalthinker615 ago
Looks like the pajama factory to me
echo-sierra ago
Not sure - the window shapes don't quite look the same: http://mmdc.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/FactoryWindows-1-3.jpg
the arched lintel in Kleinman's picture with the "APES!" graffiti doesn't match.
forno_a_legna ago
I'm not sure if this is already known, but it seems as though Amanda has a Masters Degree in Special Education. While she works in the art field now, she may have had prior access to vulnerable children, and may still do so. Just throwing this out there.
echo-sierra ago
Please archive that reference where you noticed her education qualifications, as there's an active attempt by the likes of CtR to erase anything relating to her.
The Myspace page is already down, and I can't seem to find an archive of it, however, I can see her "about me" page for her photo gallery work, http://www.amandakleinman.com/about/
has been archived:
https://web.archive.org/web/20161217053833/http://www.amandakleinman.com/about/
Doing a search on her contact email address from that site results in the following corroborative evidence:
https://apewomanmakesart.blogspot.com/
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20161226032206/https://apewomanmakesart.blogspot.com
If that is "art", then it comes as no surprise that CPP would feature other third and fourth rate "artists" work.
Note that most of her drawings on that page are from 2008.
Note to moderators - this research on Kleinman is to establish prior association and expand the database on the CPP/Alefantis circle of friends (referring to the "birds of a feather" analogy). Going by CPP's open endorsement of Kleinman's current band, Heavy Breathing, and their disgusting website, stage performances, and utterly demented lyrics of their "music", it comes as no surprise that her music may be the anthems of choice for the sick degenerates perpetrating their demented movement.