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OTPROPHET ago

Some points that didn't fit into the main article...

These guys were poor when they were touring as The Apes; at least Kleinman was. They stayed on floors and Kleinman speaks about being in debt. All of this changes after they start playing at Comet, stop picking up outside lead singers and keep just with the core group (coven?), and they become more involved with the Alefantis crowd -- Kleinman gets a sweet job at Corcoran, Schmid works as webmaster for Alefantis, Jackson has a remarkably well-received career in art. It's also around this time as Heavy Breathing they start to make more polished videos, many of which include a lot of disturbing "subliminal" content. This turn is undoubtedly linked to their relationship to Sasha Lorde, who picks up managing the band in their post-poor Apes period.

There is more in that Apes blog, including a reference Kleinman made about loving retarded boys, but I can't seem to locate it now.

Shreveport house show mentioned above

This happened at a place called Cooper Manor, a private house opened up to shows. https://archive.fo/7O2NA

Detroit house show mentioned above

The place is owned by a person named Guy who lives just outside Detroit in Southfield. The place is called the Porphyria. Porphyria has to do with Vampirism.

No money

https://archive.fo/PRdlS

Anyway, after I hang up with the mechanic, I have a panic attack. I don't have $1,000. I don't even have a credit card with room for more debt. My parents have been helping me with my rent payments since I was in the hospital. I have medical bills from Johns Hopkins that are almost as bad as my credit card bill.

I never exactly know how to proceed in high stress situations so I defer to my old standby behavior. I call home. My dad answers. He was asleep. He yells at me. I hang up. I email my mom at work. She calls me back and tells me I have to go back to teaching. I have to get a job. I have to get a real job-- the kind that gives you health insurance, paid vacations, and a bi-weekly check. These jobs don't accommodate tour schedules. They don't let organ players go when its time to go. The children need their teacher unless their teacher is going to have a baby, or is going to have surgery. My parents are not wealthy people. They have their own problems. They can't save me. I don't expect them to save me. I just want them to make it all better.

Kleinman is a pervert

https://archive.fo/qIhcQ

When I was falling asleep, I was enjoying the sounds of hot sex in the next room. This continued into the morning.

Kleinman enjoys dark gothic-punk RPG Vampire

https://archive.fo/qIhcQ

I throw him off with my honest response that I’ve played a little "Vampire"

More creepy wandering alone at night

https://archive.fo/ksdVd

So, the guy, on the bridge. He approaches me. Its dark. Its cold. He looks creepy. I look creepy.

He speaks first.

"Are you a crotch rot or a fetus face?" he asks tentatively.

"Hmmm..." I'm not really sure how to respond. After all, I have eyebrows, so I'm not really a fetus face. And I'm not harboring any yeasts or fungal infections so I'm not really a crotch rot either. But he seems like he could be interesting and I don't want to alienate him right off the bat so I just say "Both, I guess. How bout you?"

"Neither. You want to go forage for some wild lettuce saxifrage in rock creek park? You look like a forager," he states.

I am familiar with this lettuce saxifrage. I am dedicated to feasting free on wild edibles and this is one of my favorite wild salad greens. Even though its dark, we head for the park.

hanknut42 ago

yah if you look at the new photos shes really fat these days that usually means shes got some good money now and who is really buying their shitty music?

HomeboyChrisBanned ago

What photos exactly do you mean? Or are you talking about the youtube videos where its James Alefantis?

hanknut42 ago

there was one on the apes old myspace page but they deleted a few pics like the one of kleinman in front of the pajama factory. and one you can tell its kleinmen by fae and bulge and don't forget her friend who came on to reddit with the name Tardbuster lol then saying she works with kids that are speical needs :(

HomeboyChrisBanned ago

I'm not disputing that its mostly her. But i think its him in most of the music videos