I noted in a previous post some interesting background regarding the band members from Heavy Breathing. There are some great comments that add to and expand upon the initial posting.
The Apes Tour Diary
https://archive.fo/Lf3wP
Band plays at private homes with children, bondage, and filmed porn
https://archive.fo/NF5Uw
We pull up at Alec’s house after 10:15. ... A little Japanese girl approaches me. “Oh, um, that the one that I use ketchup. It have corn syrup.” I’m cursed.
Monotonix don’t hold back because they are playing in someone’s home. The fires are set. Ami jumps in a trash can. He dumps the remaining salad and scatters it all over the kitchen. He tapes youths together with duct tape. At one point, he touches a skate board that is cautiously held by a long-haired blond youngster, wearing glasses. The boy’s face becomes terror- struck and then furious. He grabs his skateboard and runs out the front door. I think he is running home until he reappears moments later. He has broken the skate board in half. I guess that the boy felt it was contaminated after Ami touched it. Perhaps he felt compelled to destroy it completely. I plan to console him later.
https://archive.fo/4L7uv
Detroit was a hoot and a holler. We got there around 9:00 pm, just in time for the van to skate across the yard of ice designated as parking lot in the suburban housing subdivision.
several people were watching some kind of net porn...
I sat down at a table to collect myself after the tense drive. In front of me, for my reading pleasure, was a copy of The Poor Man’s James Bond. I remembered this book from my college years. It’s something akin to The Anarchist’s Cookbook. The first page was covered with hand-written text. It was titled “The Do it Yourself Home Suicide Kit”. There were precise directions for how to quickly and efficiently cut and bleed yourself to death. A razorblade was taped to the page. I went to the bathroom.
The bathroom was only half complete but not undecorated. A large orange pentagram was painted on the tiled wall above the bathtub.
I was encouraged.
While I was changing back into street clothes, I listened to the dialogue from the other room. It went something like this.
“We should get naked,” from an adult male voice.
“Do you think? It would be weird to get naked,” from a young female voice.
“Wow, there are naked people in my living room,” from the voice of the host.
“We should take pictures!” from the adult male photographer that had been capturing the entire evening with very professional gear.
“I can’t believe there is a porn shoot going on in my living room!” from the host.
I stuck my head around the corner. There was the guy who earlier had worn the computer monitor on his head, now nude, with a naked girl on each side of him. They looked young: there were lots of flash bulbs.
Band kept a dark web site in 2007
https://archive.fo/PwbnW#selection-151.0-163.8
I saw you guys at the Portland show, it was great! I'm glad I wandered into your dark web domain before the show, I recognized Mr. Fairer as the opening tune, which rocks. also Breck is the shit, also I love the photos with the doll ...?
Disturbing comments about children
https://archive.fo/MJejN
There was a little 3-year old boy playing on a bike across the street. He called out to me. "Come over here!"
I walked over and then he said "What’s your name?"
Before I could answer, he shouted "Come in my house!" Boys are really to the point at that age! Sure saves a girl a lot of time!
https://archive.fo/0Ayxa
Outside one gas station, I watched a police officer give a 15-year old girl an ice cream cone. He watched while she licked it.
http://blog.theapes.com/home/blog/public_html/2007_03_01_archive.html
After clean-up, it’s our turn. I have pondering topics for the pre-show chat. What I planned was lost immediately. For some reason, I tell a horrible pedophile joke.
History of band
https://archive.fo/PRdlS
My name is Amanda, and I play organ/keyboards for this band called Apes. We are based in Washington, DC and we have been together officially since 1999. I have been playing music with two of these fools since I was 15.
History of wearing costume and using a voice changer
https://archive.fo/E7SaA
I showed up at Jeff’s and everybody was busy with needles and thread, doing last minute costume fixtures: rainbows, big eyes, wings.
https://archive.fo/NF5Uw
Without the voice changer, this speech would be pretty pathetic.
Interest in torture
https://archive.fo/MJejN
I bought a book about an Iranian girl who gets tortured.
Kleinman works with children
https://archive.fo/E7SaA
I have to start off by apologizing for never finishing the Apes/Enon tour diary from the Fall 2003. There were only a few shows left to write about but I took a job as a full time special educator after the tour was over. Between the job, tutoring, 4 days a week of band practice, and a furious exercise routine (Jeff and Erick maintain that this is an addiction like any other), I never finished it.
https://archive.fo/4UWPZ
I am a teacher again. 4 hours a day. I am teaching in a middle school, 2 math classes and one section of biology. I will wait to tell the rest of the tales of the last exploits of the road (Nov and Dec Apes/Mod tour 2005) as I know my students love the apes website and for now, its best the two worlds don't mix. I know you understand.
Kleinman family
https://archive.fo/BG939
When we played, I was struck by the volume of these loud man-fans in the front row screaming my name over and over. Eventually when I looked at them, I recognized my brother and his friend who were totally trashed and raging like bull dogs. After the show, they wanted to beat up my friends. My brother is 3 years younger than me, married to a wonderful woman, owns a house, a fancy car, and makes about 9 times as much money as me. He was a lacrosse player.
https://archive.fo/QA9id
There is a whole lot of madness in that house. But this story is not about my family. Someday I will write about the childhood. Its not your average "White trash Jews coming up in North Potomac, MD story."
Kleinman and Schmid have an earlier hardcore band Nightmare Assault from Baltimore, MD
https://archive.fo/QA9id
I went to SUNY Purchase for one year, 1991 to 1992. After that year, I ran off to France alone, and ended up transferring to U of MD. It was there that I moved in with Jeff and we started the hard core band known as "Nightmare Assault." Good memories.
Everyone loves a clown, unless they are chasing you with a steak knife.
Kleinman wanders around at night alone, sometimes in costume
https://archive.fo/4UWPZ
Jackie Majik and I are jamming most evenings and after dark, I wander the city alone. While I wander, I meet strange and interesting characters that sometimes provide interesting conversation and occasionally add wisdom to otherwise uniwse days. There is one particular person that I met this week that stands out. This is a person that I may meet again and if there are things worth sharing, I may mention them again in this forum.
I met him on the Calvert Street Bridge when I was wandering late Tuesday night and he stopped me because I was wearing a red ski mask. Usually I wear the ski mask so people won't talk to me but I guess he was intrigued. I noticed him because of his....well...it really doesn't matter...at this point I'd rather keep his physical deformities out of the discussion....
6th period bell just rang, I have to stop hiding in the music supply closet...more to come..
Kleinman kept a secret anonymous blog
https://archive.fo/PRdlS
Ape life never stops but I had been keeping an anonymous secret blog since early January and devoted quite a bit of time to it. It was a blog that I have been needing to write for quite some time. I had been wanting to incorporate elements of the secret blog into this one but I got the stop/block warning from my crew. So I went under.
Kleinman has an eating disorder
Note that survivors of child abuse often exhibit eating disorders, especially bulimia.
https://archive.fo/MJejN
That night began all of my horrible eating, sleeping, and sleep-eating habits of tour.
It seems that Kleinman finds herself sleepwalking and eating:
https://archive.fo/MJejN
Probably about an hour later, I wake up in the kitchen. My hand is stuck in the peanut jar and there is peanut butter on my face.
More behavior indicating Kleinman suffers from blackout and dissociative disorder.
The next morning, I got up early and did go running. Someone honked at me and gave me the finger. When I got back, people were waking up. Paul Q (from Modey Lemon) asked me if I had been hungry in the middle of the night. I said, "Why?" He said that he and Anders saw me come out of my room, go into the kitchen, and start rustling around. They said they started talking to me from the other room and I walked over, looked right at them, said nothing, and closed the kitchen door.
I have no idea what I ate.
https://archive.fo/PRdlS
Anorexia is a bitch. It’s like being possessed. Anorexia claims more lives than any other mental illness. It’s also much more difficult to recover when it starts in adults with a history of being overweight. That was pretty much my case history. I finally got help around Christmas. At the present moment, I am ‘in recovery’.
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redditsuckz ago
(((Amanda Kleinman))) of Majestic Ape(CPP BAND)
is a man or transgender.He even admits and says his real name is Lee;http://vocaroo.com/i/s0qRvT2hwrnb
(((Lee Kleinman)));Before;https://i.sli.mg/kdXd7Q.jpgAfter;https://i.sli.mg/LWUCby.jpg
(((Jeff Schmid))) also from the same "Tribe".
Edit;
(((Amanda Klienman))) is jewish admits it;
https://i.sli.mg/zfSGw7.jpg
http://archive.is/gPUpx
Its Klienman behind the mask;
https://i.sli.mg/WsoqWf.jpg
Former Nanny;
https://i.sli.mg/SOMJHO.jpg
http://archive.is/4vb1S
Edit 2;
Found a pic of Amanda Kleinman which shows no mole on her neck so she is probably a female and just makes up fucked up stories.
https://i.sli.mg/tUPRlf.jpg
And Here she is doing a radio interview with kvrx Austin Texas in another voice ;
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1L2JBZLhTn0
All audio from here;
http://theapes.com/audio
EDIT 3;
Kleinman says she was testing out the voice modulator;
"My Name is Lee - A somewhat disturbing monologue completely improvised by Amanda Kleinman; inspired by Paul's new vocal pedal and its pitch shifter."
http://theapes.com/audio.html
hanknut42 ago
before it really broke open people were saying Amanda was a transgender i could see that one of her myspace phottos she deleted you could def see a bugle in his spandexs
somegirlinnewzealand ago
I think that Amanda Kleinman and James Alefantis both pose as Majestic Ape. Some of the images of the lips look far too thin to me Amanda Kleinman, but is an exact math for JA
redditsuckz ago
The one under the mask has same dimples as Amanda;
Face comparison - Its Kleinman behind the mask;
https://i.sli.mg/WsoqWf.jpg
But yeah it really could be anyone behind behind the red mask.
somegirlinnewzealand ago
Ive studied psych, and Ive seen a few photos where I am convinced it is not a woman. In trying to understand the mindset of these kinds of people, who post extremely questionable material and demonstrate a very sick humour towards children, why the need for a costume based around anonymity, i know its not a astonishingly new concept for a band to do for maybe attention or whatever - but check out this video. I have heard people say this is laced with subliminal messages, I don't know how I can confirm this. Maybe someone with the skills, if they could prove it has these embedded images, and we could strongly imply that this is JA as, honestly - to me its a dead ringer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ES6qPwsy-4
ich1baN ago
I think the conclusion a lot of on VOAT have come to is that sometimes the "persona" is played by both male and females. This makes sense b/c if we follow their philosophy stemming from the whole Egyptian "fish and 14" linked to Osiris and Iris who engenders her son Horus who at one time had no gender then we can clearly see they are replicating this ancient Egyptian ritual manifested in this act in their videos.
In one of their sick music vids (I think Neutered Noel)... the guy is typing on the computer chat room at night and talking to Majestic Ape who appears to be the (trans or gender neutral one). By the end of the video the nerd guy with glasses is placed where Majestic Ape was sitting and the original nerd guy is now wearing a bra and underwear signifying Majestic Ape's transformation on him.
It's the same thing played out over and over in all of their vids in some shape or form and in a lot of the art work they reference. I can post images that prove my point concisely, but not now b/c I'm at work but Jerry Saltz who these sick fuks revere posts a ton of reference material with men and women having both the same gender and identity at the same time which is what Majestic Ape's character is reflecting vis a vis Horus (Aleister Crowley said we are living in the Age of Horus, which is another hint to MA's role) not having a gender and being transmuted his gender by ISIS copulating with a dead Osris that was cut up into 14 pieces and resurrected back to life through ISIS' magic (the penis was eaten by the fish, which describes their fascination with hot dogs and bizarre art with penises displayed everywhere as well as in their music videos).
redditsuckz ago
The one you posted is the worst one...its like it was made by a handler for MKULTRA.
Check out some of the other videos on their blog with subliminals;
http://theapes.com/video/
somegirlinnewzealand ago
Thanks you. This looks like JA to me. Amanda Kleinman appears to have a relatively full bottom lip. Many of the images of the Majestic Ape have a person with extremely thin lips, identitcal to JA https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,h_630,w_1200/v1425588560/slg7nfl6g0ghjvvvdfnl.jpg
redditsuckz ago
The one wearing the mask in some videos has to be a female because she is so short in some shots.
James Alefantis might direct or produce the Apes videos tho.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5025616/reference
OTPROPHET ago
You're repeating a popular but questionable assertion which also makes no sense and proves nothing but does serve as a kind of persistent distraction.
Meanwhile my post above clearly and directly references how Kleinman herself writes about wearing the mask and using the voice modulator back in the 2000s. I'm not buying what you're selling.
redditsuckz ago
what are you talking about?...what "questionable assertion"?...its important to know this persons REAL name...so we can see other connections...
OTPROPHET ago
I'm referring to Kleinman as a man (cf. Kleinman is Alefantis). The recording you linked to has no source, but that said, the recording does sound like the Majestic Ape character doing her "act". If that is the case, she's been doing her crowd warm up as Majestic Ape for many years. If you listen to what you posted, she's telling an outrageous, shocking story in the character of Majestic Ape. It's her creepy routine. She is not telling her life's story here.
Her blog and other information clearly point to her being Amanda for quite many years. Also, the first photo you reference (Before) clearly isn't Kleinman.
Finally, I neglected to see all the (((tribe))) bullshit of your last post. Please just stop.
redditsuckz ago
The recording comes from her/his blog...somewhere hiding in there...Klienman is NOT Alefantis...
(((Amanda Klienman))) is jewish admits it;
https://i.sli.mg/zfSGw7.jpg
http://archive.is/gPUpx
Face comparison - Its Kleinman behind the mask;
https://i.sli.mg/WsoqWf.jpg
There is a ton of hidden content on the blog;
http://theapes.com/video/
http://theapes.com/pics/
http://theapes.com/audio
http://theapes.com/misc/
https://web.archive.org/web/20161222201633/http://blog.theapes.com/home/blog/public_html/atom.xml
Art Blog;
http://archive.is/wCu9w
You might be right that might not be her/him in the first pic...the person clearly has a mole on their neck...dont know if any pic of Amanda shows that.
pizzagatewillnotdie ago
Please provide an original source for the audio, until then, I'm pretty sure it was faked.
redditsuckz ago
Here is the Original Link
http://vocaroo.com/i/s16mFnxlkVZs
Here she is doing a radio interview with kvrx Austin Texas in another voice ;
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1L2JBZLhTn0
All links from here;
http://hollaforums.com/thread/8271316/politics/ping-pong-thread-13.html
I doubt that was faked but she might have made it up because she is so fucked up in the head.
EDIT
Original Audio from Apes blog;
http://theapes.com/audio
Under "LEE"
pizzagatewillnotdie ago
I listened to it in your previous post, but would like to see the original post on her blog that links to the file. I would also like to see the original source (where it was found) to the picture of the male (Lee) version of Amanda.
redditsuckz ago
Here is the audio;
http://theapes.com/audio
Under "LEE"
pizzagatewillnotdie ago
Well holy shit. Thank you.
Here is the archive http://archive.is/0Ile5