WARNING: It appears that a major false flag op is planned for this week. This is a theory, but pay attention and look for patterns. Be ready to video, archive, and document. (pizzagate)

submitted ago by reasonedandinformed

I look for patterns, and I think I see a clear one emerging.

  1. TPTB and MSM are clearly worried about what we are discovering and want to shut us down. Calling us "fake news" and censoring us where they can (Twitter, FB, Google searches, YouTube) has helped diminish and block our message, but we continue to grow. They know they need to shut us down…but how?

  2. The initial false flag fake gunman at CPP failed. It was a hasty effort and well documented by us as a false flag (moving camera position away from CPP, posting stories/tweets that we time stamped PRIOR to the event, obvious involvement of actors). They now realize they must do something more major.

  3. Recent discussion and even the passage of laws related to Russian interference and the need for a US propaganda machine are the precursor to trying to label our group as not just generating "fake news" but being the source of violence-espousing, hateful speech...a "terrorist organization." The MSM would never come in to try to see if these claims are substantiated.

  4. CTR has been very active in trying to post totally unsubstantiated claims that bring in the Arab/Saudi connection. Why? No one here will deny items that are substantiated, but they keep making these wall-of-text posts, often including inflammatory and hateful language, confirming the “framed narrative” that we hate from Arabs (implied Muslims) and Jews. I analyzed things: You will find 8 posts with Arab in the title when you search on “Arab” in the subverse. Most are copy-and-paste spam posts with zero links or support, always linking to Andrew Kline of the DOJ (http://www.american.edu/spa/faculty/akline.cfm)). They fail to support of this, and the Andrew Kline who appears to be involved (http://theveritaslawfirm.com/meet-the-team-andrew-j-kline/)) looks to be a different person with different background, connected to the restaurants in DC. If the connection is real, there has been no documentation. 7 of the 8 posts were made by obvious shills, usually within minutes of account creation. Many of the accounts have similar names. No one said CTR is smart as they are clearly very stupid in most efforts. They not only want these regurgitated posts to slide legit posts from the front page, they want to "plant evidence" that this group is a bunch of unhinged haters, with a real hatred for Arabs/Muslims/Jews.

  5. Why this effort to focus on the Arab/Jewish hate? **It is important for them to have "evidence" from our universe that we are crazy conspiracy theorists who trade in hateful rhetoric as this will be important when they cite as inspiring the next event. **I still think setting the block on fire or a major gun event is what they are planning, but the theme they have created could even include an attack on a mosque...or MAYBE the Saudi Embassy. This idea popped into my mind after learning of Loretta Lynch's comments yesterday: http://wjla.com/news/local/attorney-general-loretta-lynch-visits-loudoun-co-mosque to discuss the "spike" in hate crimes against Muslims:

"'Our federal hate crimes laws are among the most powerful tools we have for creating a more just and equal nation, and career Justice Department prosecutors will continue to enforce them,' she said."

**It appears that they will try anything to stop Trump from assuming the presidency. **The recount joke did not go well, so the new effort is to literally blame the Russians for the outcome of the election. Talk about "fake news" - fabricated claims with zero support, with some saying we need to hold new elections. [FYI, the only major electoral fraud found so far, without Trump even trying, involved Hillary’s side in Detroit, where there was massive over-counting of her votes due to “scanning errors.”] They likely know that the 83% of the US counties that voted for Trump (http://www.inquisitr.com/3748311/donald-trump-won-2600-counties-compared-to-clintons-500-winning-83-of-the-geographic-nation/)) will NOT put up with this. They feel that it, at least, helps question Trump's legitimacy. A major attack and provoking civil unrest may be the plan...at the minimum to shut us down and possibly as a pretext for Obama to assert martial law controls.

I am hoping that this is just a conspiracy theory that does not turn into reality, but I wanted to document this analysis as I fear that my prediction of an event this week might be accurate...and we must be vigilant and prepared.

Thank you to all who are investing in bringing light to the dark cesspool of these sick people. We cannot stop until we help these poor kids.

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darkofthemoon ago

Sorry, but I think this submission is shilling to divert attention away from the most damaging revelations. Saudis owning the whole block is a huge deal. Saudis are also a bigger fish than even Hillary. The submission cleverly tries to create an artificial binary choice between "Muslim-hater" and "Trump-supporter", either of which gives the opposition ammo to paint Pizzagate as alt-right. The submission also tries to conflate Saudi Arabia with Israel so that the powerful anti-Semitism charge could be used.

If you look carefully, you can see that it's the same Andrew J. Kline in both pictures too, only the school picture is much older, probably taken when he first started at the job. There is also a third picture (on Kline's twitter profile here: https://archive.fo/0sPda)) that goes in the timeline between the two. Seriously, what are the chances that there are two Andrew J. Klines in high positions in Washington D.C. that look so alike that they could be brothers... or one person?

I'm thinking I should do an infographic about Kline. There has been a lot of disinformation on the subject. Aggressive shills appear whenever he is mentioned, claiming that it has all been debunked in hopes that people won't check for themselves.

reasonedandinformed ago

I and the pizzagate group are open to seeing any connection, but it needs to be documented. Look at the pattern in the Saudi posts.

  • There is no documentation.
  • They use hateful and incendiary language.
  • The posts are literally copy-and-paste efforts of the same thing, posted by accounts that have just been created.
  • The posts immediately rocket to the top in one hour, unlike any other posts. They show tremendous momentum without any documentation.

CTR shill posts always show these patterns.

If you have evidence to link the Saudis in, please post it, with actual documentation. There is no conspiracy to silence, but CTR is clearly posting the hate-filled Saudi link for a reason.

dontsuicidemebro ago

Yeah I've definitely noticed it, not normal. Posts moves off the front page so quick on voat, it catches the eye when something's at the top that was there the day before. Thought maybe I was imagining it. I appreciate that you are not looking to quash the connection, but are raising suspicions of this pattern. With everyone on such high alert for shills, it's hard to know whether attacks on users like yourself who point it out are well-intentioned from people who didn't read clearly/knee-jerk reactions to any criticism, or whether it's more sinister.

reasonedandinformed ago

I think those who react against me pointing out the pattern about Saudi posts are sometimes sincere. Some are shills. The evidence of them being CTR is usually found in looking at their account/posting history. Most of the Saudi posts are done within moments of a new account being created actually.