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darkofthemoon ago

Sorry, but I think this submission is shilling to divert attention away from the most damaging revelations. Saudis owning the whole block is a huge deal. Saudis are also a bigger fish than even Hillary. The submission cleverly tries to create an artificial binary choice between "Muslim-hater" and "Trump-supporter", either of which gives the opposition ammo to paint Pizzagate as alt-right. The submission also tries to conflate Saudi Arabia with Israel so that the powerful anti-Semitism charge could be used.

If you look carefully, you can see that it's the same Andrew J. Kline in both pictures too, only the school picture is much older, probably taken when he first started at the job. There is also a third picture (on Kline's twitter profile here: https://archive.fo/0sPda)) that goes in the timeline between the two. Seriously, what are the chances that there are two Andrew J. Klines in high positions in Washington D.C. that look so alike that they could be brothers... or one person?

I'm thinking I should do an infographic about Kline. There has been a lot of disinformation on the subject. Aggressive shills appear whenever he is mentioned, claiming that it has all been debunked in hopes that people won't check for themselves.

blind_sypher ago

Artificial binaries are the key to their power in the media, and I have a theory, well its more of a hunch, that thats why the masonic motiff focus's so heavily on the black and white tile. It is its esoteric representation, their bedrock, if you will.

SwansRonson ago

Not just in the power of the media, but all power, at least according to Hegel. You might be interested to read on the Hegelian Dialectic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic)). The manner in which events manifest is said to follow this path: Thesis, Antithesis, and Synthesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesis,_antithesis,_synthesis)). The Thesis and Antithesis represent the artificial binaries of which you speak. The binaries are required to create the tension in the universe through which controlled events manifest. Much of the Free Masonic lore revolves around this concept heavily and is depicted in Masonic lore as Jachin and Boaz, the pillars of Solomon's Temple, as well as a black and white checkered pattern.

Edit: added some links

Makingspace1 ago

Yeah, im with you somewhat....Why does this submission detract from Saudi involvement and marginalize the many suspicious links? Seems like submitter wants v/pizzagate to turn a blind eye to Saudi connection. Huma is a huge Saudi connection with Hillary and by extension CTR. I posted an article this past weekend that brought to light the Saudi "gay boy sex" culture which was downvoated quickly of course. I don't think discussing the Saudi connection suggests a false flag is in operation. If false flag happens, its gonna be something they pin on Russia with the help of the CIA and the Hillary Machine. IMO any orchestration of a coup will happen from with the US and probably at the level of the CIA. Sure the Saudis may finance because of their affinity for CP, but to suggest stories that link the Saudis to pizza gate stuff means a dis info campaign in happening is quite a stretch. BTW, the CP story will not surface in any false flag attempt, that's the whole reason a false flag would happen...to distract from the story and change the paradigm and focus away from where the heat is.

reasonedandinformed ago

I and the pizzagate group are open to seeing any connection, but it needs to be documented. Look at the pattern in the Saudi posts.

  • There is no documentation.
  • They use hateful and incendiary language.
  • The posts are literally copy-and-paste efforts of the same thing, posted by accounts that have just been created.
  • The posts immediately rocket to the top in one hour, unlike any other posts. They show tremendous momentum without any documentation.

CTR shill posts always show these patterns.

If you have evidence to link the Saudis in, please post it, with actual documentation. There is no conspiracy to silence, but CTR is clearly posting the hate-filled Saudi link for a reason.

dontsuicidemebro ago

Yeah I've definitely noticed it, not normal. Posts moves off the front page so quick on voat, it catches the eye when something's at the top that was there the day before. Thought maybe I was imagining it. I appreciate that you are not looking to quash the connection, but are raising suspicions of this pattern. With everyone on such high alert for shills, it's hard to know whether attacks on users like yourself who point it out are well-intentioned from people who didn't read clearly/knee-jerk reactions to any criticism, or whether it's more sinister.

reasonedandinformed ago

I think those who react against me pointing out the pattern about Saudi posts are sometimes sincere. Some are shills. The evidence of them being CTR is usually found in looking at their account/posting history. Most of the Saudi posts are done within moments of a new account being created actually.