Yup this is right in line with their usual tactics. I personally have a very long history of rooting these fuckers out and exposing them, and have studied their methodology and the patterns in line with their past behavior/typical underhanded manipulation & attempts to silence others. They will flood this place with a ton of "hate speech"-type posts, a lot of racist shit and flat-out trolling sort of posts -- in essence, "let's make this place as miserable as possible of an environment to try and dissuade readership/posting activity" is one of their main goals. They also use the racist posts and in particular, they love to use neo-Nazi type rhetoric and anti-semitic remarks because they have a very easy scarlet letter to pin on this whole investigation by painting it as the cooky conspiracy theory whipped up by a bunch of delusional racists. It'd be curious (from a psychological perspective) if what they were doing wasn't so fucking disgusting, seeing as the majority of the staff and people I've ever seen to be verifiably proven members of CTR and their affiliated groups/sub-groups were themselves, in fact, Jewish or of that background (like myself). So yes, please be sure to report people who are obvious trolls and agitators and use your downvotes wisely folks.
The anti-Semitic stuff is normal to Voat. The users who are vocally racist are pretty consistent with it, so regular users know when to apply a filter to their comments.
What are you seeing that's different, that isn't immediately noticed and downvoated for being out of step with our regulars?
Honestly, I don't have an association between CTRs or shills and racist outbursts at all. In fact I'm pretty sure CTR operatives were under strict SJW guidelines for the type of triggering language they weren't allowed to use.
But to answer your "psychological" question:
We've seen quite a number of false flags out in the real world involving jews and blacks etc painting swastikas and neo-nazi epithets on their houses or places of worship and feigning personal attacks. Why wouldn't the online equivalent happily indulge in the same thing?
A good way around that would be to say NO RACISM and ban anyone who goes off about K-words or N-words or whatever. It doesn't have to do with free speech. It has to do with keeping Pizzagate about Pizzagate, maintaining a serious environment about a seriously fucked up issue, and keeping the damage shills do to a minimum... Voat and the internet at large has lots of places where you can talk shit about "the Jew problem" so if they are legit racists they can go to Stormfront and if they are doing it for the lulz they can go to Coontown. Either way, Pizzagate is not the place for that stuff.
Censoring wrongthink is your solution. Censoring anyone with leads that lead to wrongthink os your solution. Hello CTR do you also think I should be banned for poinint out most of CTR is jewish according to the 3 times they have been doxed, or that most of the people being investigated in pizzagate are jewish by blood. Censorship is not the answer, that is what made plebbit such a shithole and now you are invading Voat and brining the same issues here. This is the exact same tactic that was used to split GG when they found out the enemy they were really fighting. Learn from mistakes, why should we censor and go down the exact rout that defanged GG right when the man behing the curtain was exposed. Fuck you and your censorship, that only ever leads to abuses of power and the actual investigation being stifled. This is why most of those that migrated from plebbit have to be retaught most of the investigation because it was censored while they feast on the leads that get passed down from sites with less censorship.
The way you are phrasing it, saying "people being investigated in pizzagate are jewish by blood" is not crass and can be verified by looking at their surname or place of birth or other things. But most of what I've read is stuff like Teh Jooish Konspeeracee and seems like racists are using child sex crimes as an excuse to be more racist (because white Christians never molest kids)
What's funny is that our investigation is revealing that the nazis/soros are at the very heart of this. We couldn't be more ANTI-NAZI, yet they call us Nazis.
How do these CTR people live with themselves? They are either really really really stupid and can't think for themselves or they are just plain evil.
Soros is a jew who works for the Rothchilds. CTR is run by Brock who is jewish, and 70% of those employed there are jewish. The "nazis" at /pol/ do most of the digging and hand down the larger leads that need to be sifted through down here. This is the dumbest dividing attempt I have seen. If you bite the hand that feeds you the leads this just continues as blogposts about "I am a liberal and I am shocked by this" posts that constantly reach the top and provide nothing to the investigation. Why blame nazis when your enemy has a hooked nose and is right in front of you. Why would you ignore the main leads just because the source comes from National Socialists.
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h2d ago
Yup this is right in line with their usual tactics. I personally have a very long history of rooting these fuckers out and exposing them, and have studied their methodology and the patterns in line with their past behavior/typical underhanded manipulation & attempts to silence others. They will flood this place with a ton of "hate speech"-type posts, a lot of racist shit and flat-out trolling sort of posts -- in essence, "let's make this place as miserable as possible of an environment to try and dissuade readership/posting activity" is one of their main goals. They also use the racist posts and in particular, they love to use neo-Nazi type rhetoric and anti-semitic remarks because they have a very easy scarlet letter to pin on this whole investigation by painting it as the cooky conspiracy theory whipped up by a bunch of delusional racists. It'd be curious (from a psychological perspective) if what they were doing wasn't so fucking disgusting, seeing as the majority of the staff and people I've ever seen to be verifiably proven members of CTR and their affiliated groups/sub-groups were themselves, in fact, Jewish or of that background (like myself). So yes, please be sure to report people who are obvious trolls and agitators and use your downvotes wisely folks.
PS: CTR people - fuck you!
Gorillion ago
The anti-Semitic stuff is normal to Voat. The users who are vocally racist are pretty consistent with it, so regular users know when to apply a filter to their comments.
What are you seeing that's different, that isn't immediately noticed and downvoated for being out of step with our regulars?
Honestly, I don't have an association between CTRs or shills and racist outbursts at all. In fact I'm pretty sure CTR operatives were under strict SJW guidelines for the type of triggering language they weren't allowed to use.
But to answer your "psychological" question:
We've seen quite a number of false flags out in the real world involving jews and blacks etc painting swastikas and neo-nazi epithets on their houses or places of worship and feigning personal attacks. Why wouldn't the online equivalent happily indulge in the same thing?
l23r ago
A good way around that would be to say NO RACISM and ban anyone who goes off about K-words or N-words or whatever. It doesn't have to do with free speech. It has to do with keeping Pizzagate about Pizzagate, maintaining a serious environment about a seriously fucked up issue, and keeping the damage shills do to a minimum... Voat and the internet at large has lots of places where you can talk shit about "the Jew problem" so if they are legit racists they can go to Stormfront and if they are doing it for the lulz they can go to Coontown. Either way, Pizzagate is not the place for that stuff.
EllenPaosEgo ago
Censoring wrongthink is your solution. Censoring anyone with leads that lead to wrongthink os your solution. Hello CTR do you also think I should be banned for poinint out most of CTR is jewish according to the 3 times they have been doxed, or that most of the people being investigated in pizzagate are jewish by blood. Censorship is not the answer, that is what made plebbit such a shithole and now you are invading Voat and brining the same issues here. This is the exact same tactic that was used to split GG when they found out the enemy they were really fighting. Learn from mistakes, why should we censor and go down the exact rout that defanged GG right when the man behing the curtain was exposed. Fuck you and your censorship, that only ever leads to abuses of power and the actual investigation being stifled. This is why most of those that migrated from plebbit have to be retaught most of the investigation because it was censored while they feast on the leads that get passed down from sites with less censorship.
l23r ago
The way you are phrasing it, saying "people being investigated in pizzagate are jewish by blood" is not crass and can be verified by looking at their surname or place of birth or other things. But most of what I've read is stuff like Teh Jooish Konspeeracee and seems like racists are using child sex crimes as an excuse to be more racist (because white Christians never molest kids)
Godwillwin ago
What's funny is that our investigation is revealing that the nazis/soros are at the very heart of this. We couldn't be more ANTI-NAZI, yet they call us Nazis.
How do these CTR people live with themselves? They are either really really really stupid and can't think for themselves or they are just plain evil.
EllenPaosEgo ago
Soros is a jew who works for the Rothchilds. CTR is run by Brock who is jewish, and 70% of those employed there are jewish. The "nazis" at /pol/ do most of the digging and hand down the larger leads that need to be sifted through down here. This is the dumbest dividing attempt I have seen. If you bite the hand that feeds you the leads this just continues as blogposts about "I am a liberal and I am shocked by this" posts that constantly reach the top and provide nothing to the investigation. Why blame nazis when your enemy has a hooked nose and is right in front of you. Why would you ignore the main leads just because the source comes from National Socialists.