Dislaimer: IN all of these Posts I've clearly stated that I don't know how much of this, IF anything, is relevant... But It FOR SURE RELATED. PLEASE HELP DETERMINE RELEVANCY. TWO PARTER, SECOND PART IN COMMENTS.
EDIT2: I Didn't want to say this and have it take away from anything, but one of our proven assets said it in the comments.
Eggs-Vs-Bacon
"hey OP. Lackawanna NY is just outside of Buffalo. Guess who else is from just outside of Buffalo? James Alefantis."
I'll also add that His parents own a cottage in up state new york, that he use to frequently visit as a kid... I'll post link later, but if my memory serves me right, It was from a metroweekly article "FROM SCRATCH; JAMES ALEFANTIS." Or some version of that, will post link when able to,
EDIT: THIS WILL MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU"VE READ THE POST. Bethelehm Steel, AND KAISER, Both worked on Grand Coulee Dam and Hoover Dam. So another factor that they're connected.
OK. Here is my easy to follow version OF my original post.
PART2 CURTIS INVESTMENTS ARKANSAS, CLINTON FOUNDATION. AND OTHER STATE CONNETIONS WIll be in the comment. I Posted a much more disorganized version of this last night. I woke up to find it removed this morning for not being related. I explained this to Mod, very calm and rationally...
OK, that's a lie, I was dick. BUt I Posted It again, Because IT is UNDOUBTEDLY RElATED this time it was not removed, But IT was still disorganized.
Tried Editing that post, But every time it said "OOPS something went wrong". So here is the Easy to follow version, WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SPECIFICALLY KAISER AND BETHLEHEM STEEL**
FIrst, Here Is New information In regards to [David Flintstone, And the Hawaii Connection Post.(https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1459779))
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Company Name: MR STONES INC.
Mailing Address: 3200 Wailea Alanui Dr Ste 501 Kihei, HI 96753
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DAVE FLINTSTONE
President, Secretary, Treasurer,
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Director ** JACK PATTERSON**
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Vice-President, Director
DENNI PAULL
If you Look at 577 Pakala Street Honolulu, HI on google maps, You'll notice all the buildings next to this address, Are Named after HENRY J KAISER
In fact, He was the one who founded this area of hawaii or something? I'm having trouble finding where I saw that... But don't worry about that specifically. All of the buildings next to are named after him 577 Pakala Street Honolulu, HI.
** who is HENRY KASIER, and how does he relate to CLINTON FOUNDATION?**
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He established the KAISER SHIPYARDSwhich built Liberty ships during World War II (Bethlem steel subsidary company, Bethelehm Shipping Corporation, More on Bethelem bellow)after which he formed KAISER ALUMINUM(have not researched) and KAISER STEEL(have not researched)
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Kaiser organized Kaiser Permanente health care for his workers and their families. KAISER PERMANENTE IN HAWAII Also KAISER HEALTH HAWAII Have not researched
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KAISER FOUNDATION, NEXT TO CLINTON FOUNDATION, D.C. KASIER FAMILY FOUNDATION (Have not looked at buisness filings for kasier in different states yet..)
- Kaiser foundation focuses on major health care issues facing the nation.
- U.S. role in global health policy.
- The Foundation states that it is a non-partisan source of facts and analysis,
- polling and journalism for policymakers, the media, the health care community, and the general public
- ACCORDING TO THE WASHINGTON POST, kff.org is known for having the "most up-to-date and accurate information on health policy[2]" and as a "must-read for healthcare devotees." mmhm I'm sure, just like I'm known to cure cancer with my cock.
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KAISER FOUNDATION AID/HIV (remember Clinton Aid/hiv foundation)
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KASIER FOUNDATION, CLINTON VS TRUMPHere
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CLinton HIV/AIDS, Kasier connect
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KASIER FOUNDATION POLL: MORE PEOPLE TRUT CLINTON THAN TRUMPhere
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More Kaiser Clinton[here(https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Kaiser+Family+Foundation+Clinton&t=hs&ia=web))
BETHELLEHM STEEL FIRE, LACKAWANA NEW YORK, HOURS AFTER ELECTION, FACTS about BUILDING, and FIRE ITSELF
(OWNER OF THE BUILDING, And CLINTON FOUNDATION CORRELATION WILL BE NEXt)
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Here is video of fire another here
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This fire was actually at the Site of the old Bethlehem steel factory.
- Bethlehem steel was one time the Second biggest Steel manufacture in the country...
- As Well as America's second-largest shipbuilder... Guess As to who number one was? "KAISER PERHAPS? HE WAS THE FATHER OF SHIPBUILDING"
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Long story short, bethlehem steel was bought up awhile ago, and has a long history;
- Involving International Steel Group in 2003.
- In 2005, ISG merged with Mittal Steel, ending American ownership of the assets of Bethlehem Steel.
- That latter went on to be Arcelarmittal. After Acrel Steel Bought Mittal Steel
LACKAWAN NY LOCATION SPECIFICALLY.
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The company that now owns the building itself, In lackawanna, is GREAT LAKES INDUSTRIAL, and the owner has some facts about him, that correlate with facts about the Clinton foundation... Which I'll Clearly show, after the remaining facts about the fire itself...
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.THE OLD Bethlehem steel plant in NY, caught fire HOURS after the election was called for Trump. I am not making this a a political issue, These are simply facts.
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burned for 5 days, requiring 100 Fire fighters, and multiple Precincts from around the state.
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I Think it was the mayor, If not, it was Governor Cuomo Declared a State of Emergency for Lackawana New york
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Mandatory Evacuation Was ordered for the surrounding neighborhoods. should be noted that there was zero chance of the fire spreading past the property it was on. Fire was not a risk for the houses.
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The never worked to extinguish the fire, but rather "Contain It". Even Though it was producing MASSIVE amounts of TOXIC fumes. I'd imagine this was their excuse for the mandatory Evacuation for the 300 Homes...( I am know Health, or fire expert, but it seemed strange to me that homes would be evacuted because of this. The smoke was not settling in the slightest, and In fact is was blowing away from the neighborhood, as seen in the fires. I'm confused as to how evacuating people down the street would be effective. Perhaps someone has a logical answer for this.)
WHAT THE OFFICIALS SAID, DURING AND AFTER THE FIRE.
"It's been standing there for 80 years, haven't had any issues with any of these buildings so far... and then this happened this morning" - Mayor of Lackawana when asked about sprinklers being installed, and recent fire inspections.
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The mayor spoke to the news the day of the fire, but not until being pulled aside and directed what to say, by the city's building developer
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The Governor of new york, Came and gave a press conference
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The Go between fire deputy also stated they were demolishing immediately after, actually it was still burning In some places.
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The also said that it was inspected 2 months agoYouTube, and two days later it was they said that it was actually two years ago.
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The day of the fire, The Deputy Fire liaison (Person communitcating what's happening to the press) said they were already starting demolition, and would continue as soon as fire was extinguished. this seemed strange to me, as I heard the day it happened, Because I couldn't understand how they would rationalize demolition so soon, when they didn't even know for sure, what started it.. (Working on finding link)
- Two days later they "clarified" Saying that that the were only doing demolition that was needed to help extinguish the fire... But remember they said the day before, they were only attempting to contain it... Change of plans?
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So What caused this fire? Almost immediately after the fire started, All news outlets said A FUCKING LIGHT BULB HEATED UP SOME FUCKING CARDBOARD remember the Mayors quote at the start of this?
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They said this is what was conveyed by THE(singular) employee in the building,
- Remember, originally they also said they were demolishing...
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The next day they said they didn't know the cause and needed to investigate.
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but if they don't know what caused it, and they are demolishing already, how will they ever know?
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The answer is, they wouldn't.. But don't worry, the Next Day they revised their comments, so that the new story made sense.
**PART 2 IN THE COMMENTS. IT's About the owner of the building that caught fire, his other companies and a bunch of connections to Clinton foundation.
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standalone ago
One general piece of feedback: you leap from point to point without developing / backing sufficiently (if at all) the connection, take tangents, then teleport back to another point you just remembered from one of the previous posts you made. You also edit back info in old posts so people who already read your post don't know what you are talking about because they didn't read the last update. And you also put some important suff in the comments. It may sound logical to you as the nature of the connection is clear in your mind, but that makes it very difficult to follow for anyone else.
I have the feeling that you are really onto something, but at the moment it's too scattered around and I really can't wrap my head around what you are trying to prove. Please gather all your notes from all your other posts as well as the original Hawaii post on which you started commenting, and make one clear expose of how everything connects together. Don't hesistate to over-explain. You can add tags like "(1), (2), (3) etc." to also point back to earlier references in the post. And also make sure that every fact that's needed to connect things together is backed by solid evidence. When you say things are side by side, an annotated google map snapshot would help a lot and save everyone the hassle of having to retrace all of your investigation step by step before they even know if it holds any water. I know there is a character limitation in Voat. Maybe you can make a post on Steemit (recommended as censorship resistant) or Medium and then link to your post from here.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
" You also edit back info in old posts so people who already read your post don't know what you are talking about because they didn't read the last update. And you also put some important suff in the comments. It may sound logical to you as the nature of the connection is clear in your mind, but that makes it very difficult to follow for anyone else."
I'm just reading this comment now... And I agree with you 100% I Ran out of room in my post to add all of the Updates, So I had to determine what I thought to be the most important... I should have just made a new comment, But I was worried it wouldn't be seen.
I've done A LOT of research, and uncovered A LOT of relevant infromation. Information I'm more certain about then the information in these posts...
Unfortunately I decided my first attempt at conveying my findings, would be with the information I'm least certain about, and hardest to explain... This was a few days ago, So I forgot what my motivation at the time was, But I remember thinking, "Now would be a good time, to drop this, Even though I'm not done researching myself."
But I just want to say, I'm trying to prove the extremely evil government corruption facing this country.Not every post, Needs clear cut, "This is exactly what happened, here is the concrete evidence". Most of us are not presenting Information to a jury, as a prosecutor...
FIrst we need to figure out what the fuck needs to be researched more. I was simply stating some facts, that connect my information, to the clinton foundation... Some facts that have never been mentioned and angles that have not have been looked into (To my knowledge.)
Maybe people did look into some of these angles, prior to my post, But never mentioned them becuse they didn't deem it relevant... Or maybe they weren't looked into at all.
It's not my responsibility to Know with 100% certainty before posting...It is my responsibility to post information that I feel need to be looked in more thoroughly, If I can at least provide information as to why I feel that way. As you've stated and I agreed to, It was disorganized as fuck... But I Believe I provided enough information, To justify my making of this post.
But Like I said, I agree with you when you say it was disorganized and I was jumping around, In addition to letting "the clarity" in my head, affect my presentation of how this is relevant.
I've learned my lesson, and will Undoubtedly make sure all future posts are clear, and concise.