Now please hear me out.
I very much believe #pizzagate is real and there is some really convincing circumstancial evidence out there that connects John & Tony Podesta to pedophilia, for example the coded e-mails with (fbi-)confirmed pedolanguage, the creepy instagram pictures (kids with electric tape, bills) and the links to Epstein just to name a few.
But all the other stuff makes this look goddamn crazy. I understand that you wanna share anything that could be related but don't lose focus. Here is what I mean:
-The current sticky thread (240mils laundering) has NOTHING to do with pizzagate. The ties to Besta Pizza OR the Podestas have been established.
-The pupil irregularities post (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1458452))... Seriously? Pupil irregularities are not that uncommon, I am sure if George Soros likes to drink the blood of young kids to replenish himself he would have an easier time finding kids whose kidnapping hasn't been in the news.
-The police sketches that look like the podestas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann It's ONE MAN. The police sketches are OF ONE MAN. This means that while people are still posting this (http://wearechange.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/1-1.png)) they don't even realize that it's supposed to be two sketches of the same man. Judge for yourself what that means. Also, why would the Washington elite with unlimited money and a pedo supply network feel the need to travel to a beach resort in Portugal and KIDNAP A GIRL THEMSELVES?
-The pictures of the internet backend with downloadable content and 120 users etc. was FAKE. No evidence was ever shown and the user who posted it is a wannabe anonymous person who posts private facebook statuses about college.
One faithful day in the next weeks a mainstream reporter will be assigned to look into this and I promise you the links on /v/pizzagate and gab.ai will be
50% Weird shit about the elite drinking the blood of infants
30% Debunked 'smoking guns'
19% Unrelated news stories
1% Maybe actually damning evidence
And good 'ol JOHNNY is gonna tell his editor that #pizzagate is an alt-right, lunatic community that is about George Soros drinking Madeiline Mccann's blood to live longer because she is the reincarnation of a pagan god or some shit. And that my friends is why they call us crazy.
xmen ago
actually there are so much to look into... I am looking into a supposed dairy product company call The Suspicious Cheese Lord ... who's actually a catholic chorale .. let's go fishing them
Millennial_Falcon ago
I agree with some of this, BUT:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1456741
Uh, yes they are, and they have the same type of irregularity, and it's 1/20000 births. Extremely rare. Blood harvesting? No. But it could be for stem cells, or some other reason. It could just be a coincidence, but the extreme rarity of this defect makes a HUGE coincidence. That said, I agree it's not necessarily evidence of anything, but I think it's something to be aware of.
JohnD0e ago
whats a mudduck???
ScottKnight ago
Efits are a leak
JohnD0e ago
How do you mean? Check this post from 2013 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/14/british-detectives-efits-madeleine-mccann-suspect
ScottKnight ago
The eFits were supressed for five years. The witness testimony they were based on is dubious. The private investigation company that helped produce the eFits is being hunted by the Clinton-appointed DOJ.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1456741
JohnD0e ago
Right, this link was given as a source: http://abcnews.go.com/International/maddy-mccann-cops-release-sketches-kidnap-suspects/story?id=20563026 Scotland yard says they are sketches of ONE person. Just check the source yourself.
ScottKnight ago
You must be a shill if you don't understand
VieBleu ago
stop yelling.
VieBleu ago
You seem intent on carrying a message of shaming.
And you think it matters if a "mainstream reporter" thinks some information is weird? Lack of mainstream reporting is part of the problem here, not something to be tiptoed around.
Luckily this is an open forum, so even those with a strong tendency to normalcy bias may vent. But if that's all you have to contribute, well, time will tell whether you are truly concerned about unearthing evidence to help some children now and in the future.
If you wish to simply be a debunker, that would be fine, but don't present your debunking so emotionally and angrily. Just debunk and do a better job of it. I am interested in your information regarding a false post, but you need to provide a link to it, then calmly present your points about why you think/know it is false.
Basically your presentation sucks, though your heart is supposedly in the right place.
JohnD0e ago
I think if any credible journalist from - let's say RT or AlJazeera would cover the real circumstancial evidence that was found, this whole thing can take off. That is what I care about - I don't care about being part of a fringe internet community that tries to convince people Hillary Clinton drinks the blood infants at night. The woman has enough financial ties to crony companies to make an argument from there...
And here is the link to the post I was referring to (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1449130)). Please read it carefully and critically decide for yourself if the "evidence" posted has ANY real, verifiable connection to HRC, the CF, the Podestas or Alefantis.
VieBleu ago
That's better but you can cut out the complaining still. No one cares if you are worried about your reputation. Either contribute or shut up. And when you post, provide substantiation about what you are talking about, keep the caps down, and back up your conclusions as best you can. Good luck.
Faustian ago
:-) I see where you're coming from, but it's the nature of this beast. You need folks from all backgrounds bringing their skill-sets to this inquiry. Every following, whether religious or political, will have its share of crazy. However, there are enough people here now that likely do or will soon have the ability to downvoat content they deem irrelevant. Before I saw voat threads about pizzagate, I would have deemed it an impossible conspiracy theory. However, delving through some of the content, there is quite a bit of circumstantial evidence. The record of pedophile rings in political circles around the world prove it's not out of the realm of possibility. There will be batshit crazy posts, but there will also be relevant leads. Nature of the beast.
Al Capone was prosecuted for tax evasion, not for bootlegging, gambling, or murder. If there is relevant evidence to criminal activity whether or not that evidence is of human trafficking, it's probable cause for warrants and an investigation. Law enforcement have many more tools than us to scrutinize people that may be connected to pizzagate and proof of any criminal activity can lead to this end.
JohnD0e ago
I agree to your first point - I just think that posting "evidence" that has been debunked is completely counterproductive
Oh I totally am onboard with you but the post does NOT connect any of the #pizzagate people with "Besta Worlds". If it was the case then it would def. be a smoking gun. But it isn't.
Faustian ago
Comment in those threads to let us know where/when it was debunked etc. I am relatively new to the pizzagate thing; so, I am unaware of the vast majority of this research. I worry that I post things that are either irrelevant or have already been discussed, but I need seasoned folks to tell me if either is the case. In the meantime, I am trying to read and research. You have a lot of old voat goats who are only now discovering this subject.
JohnD0e ago
I did, but it seems like people are easily impressed by similar names of organizations and a bunch of (unrelated) links. Here is the thread: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1449130. please check out the links and decide for yourself.
KingKongisCTR ago
Dumb post by "John Doe".
JohnD0e ago
Can you ellaborate?