I think I can prove that Bucks 100% has a basement and that there's also more to CPP than is visible (pizzagate)

submitted ago by burnerfortheday

Sorry for using a burner, but I think this is definite now.

See here for physical size reference of CPP, Bucks and Little Red fox, which are all side by side roughly the same size with the exception of CPP which has an area on the back about the same size as the front unit. See http://sli.mg/vh11Cd (with a size reference in the bottom right)

For reference here is info for the building next door Little Red Fox is 1530 square foot http://archive.is/ehWqp

CPP is listed as being 3925 square feet see http://archive.is/9gzzh but have a look at the map view of this one story building. Back of the envelope math says that should run up to about 3000 square foot - this is nearly a full 1k square foot short of what is visible.

Now have a look at Bucks this is where it gets interesting http://archive.is/zRk7w a whopping 4.5k square foot for a building that looks the same size as Little Red Fox.

Another point that really needs some weight but is speculative is that CPP building is much older than bucks, being built in 1932 during prohibition. Tunnels were commonly used to transport liquor during that time and he salvaged the old liquor store sign. more info at https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1456194

Blacksmith21 ago

This is from another post:

Let me add this. Look at my attached graphic. The "realtor" market tries to maximize the "value" of the house when listing them. Realtors will advertise a basement as a second story. The difference is that the DC tax assessor does not recognize finished or unfinished basements as taxable property, so the tax assessment will state 1 story. If you look at the graphic, there are some very obviously 1 story buildings next to CPP. The tax assessor lists these other locations as 1-story, yet the realtor (propertyshark.com) website "markets" it as a two story, because it has a basement. If the building had 2 stories above grade, the tax assessor would assess it as a 2-story building and the realtor would market it as a 3-story building. [sorry, not listing citations, but this is all verifiable data]

https://i.sli.mg/1il2xq.jpg

Sub: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1453433

burnerfortheday ago

No thats brilliant information to know why all would be listed as 2 floor on the realty sites, when they clearly dont have a 2nd floor. Bucks is the lemon though it HAS to have a 2nd floor based on the square footage.

Blacksmith21 ago

If you look at aerial imagery, you will see bucks is about 30-40% wider than CPP or LRF. I think that's where the additional SF comes from:

https://i.sli.mg/lki256.png

burnerfortheday ago

See images on OP now include floor measurements LRF listed as 1520, measured 1480 https://sli.mg/xJqOdd. Comet listed 3925, measured 3925 https://sli.mg/txUAAr. Bucks listed as 4500 measured in at 2211 https://sli.mg/RvyD2q.

burnerfortheday ago

You are 100% right no point half doing this. Bucks is actually larger than LRF, editing OP now with new info taken with measurements

Htaed ago

This needs to be looked into. There has to be traces of children if they were there (basement). DNA and such. Police should swab their walk in cooler for human blood. That big walk-in cooler is where they gut and kill the children to prep them for cooking.

looknclick ago

Maybe DNA test the pizza...

Htaed ago

There has to be DNA evidence somewhere. They scrubbed that walk in cooler pretty clean. They're confident enough to be blunt about it.

cantsleepawink ago

Thank you. Yes, this is the one I was referring to.

cantsleepawink ago

Sorry if my comment here is a little bit off the main search for details of a possible basement at CPP, but in looking around for related info I've had quite an education on subterranean Washingon DC. I'm not familiar with the city and perhaps the following is already known to many but it was new to me and certainly put the whole tunnel thing into perspective for me:*

I came across this interesting article The Underground City beneath the US Capital and Library of Congress which includes a brief summary of the layout of the various tunnels. Cannon Tunnel caught my eye because of the children's art on the walls and following the link to the Congressional Art Competition was instructive too. This year's winner from District 7 can be seen here : District 7 winner.*

More information on the various tunnels can be found in An A-mazing Guide. Definitely worth a read. Including titbits like the newest tunnel addition which is the Capitol Visitor Center basement which is split into 3 floors. The first floor is reserved for member meetings that require privacy and is also the U.S. Capitol Police’s new home base. *

I never realized that Washingtonians spent so much time underground.

burnerfortheday ago

Interestingly from a PM from someone who didnt want their name on this apparently "They were first dug out to be used to connect the ring of Forts that surrounded DC during the Civil war." - though I have not yet had any time to verify any details on this. So there tunnels, old tunnels, older tunnels and really old tunnels.

PEi ago

Go to hall of records in person and view the file. Anyone can view/make copies. There will be records not available online.

GIF-lLL-S0NG ago

Tax records. There has always been a store there? what kind of store was there in 1965 when Johnny podesta and slick willy was still figuring out how to get around DC without getting killed by the negros?

NotAnIdiot ago

Tax records will still most likely uncover something.

Truthplease5 ago

how can we get the floor plans of these businesses? are they public record??

pizzahthrowaway ago

https://i.sli.mg/2TXOhU.png

Posted this earlier, shows him denying a basement but the image of the guy digging has comments about "needs underpinning" which is a technique involved in expanding basements in older buildings

pizzathrowaway ago

Underpinning can be necessary for such projects but that's hardly the only reason! You can add underpinning to a foundation of a building with no basement as well

cantsleepawink ago

The property details for each business has listed the number of stories as TWO.

LostandFound ago

Is there any info that there is a second story to these as opposed to a basement? Looks like all three are listed as two story incl Little Red Fox

cantsleepawink ago

Someone posted a thread yesterday explaining how property details were listed during the days of the prohibition. I'll try to find it. Apparently most properties of that era did have a basement.

LostandFound ago

Good catch - can we get construction records for Bucks ??