not necessarily. that is what the Whitehouse says. they have lost credibility. there is no garuantee, any of the people named in that photo, are who they say they are...
Andrew Kline of Besta Pizza - We've Been Tricked! He's the REAL DEAL! (v/pizzagate)
8 days[deleted]
So I earlier I was having an argument with another user about Andrew Kline, the owner of Besta Pizza.
Originally we assumed that he was Special Litigation Counsel Andrew Kline, and one of four attourneys appointed by Clinton in the Human Trafficking Prosecution Unit of the Department of Justice, in the Civil Rights Division.
Then we found out Andrew J. Kline, an attourney at Veritas Law Firm, whose clients included Comet Ping Pong and Buck's Fishing and Camping. Oh, so he's an estate attourney and unrelated, their names were a coincidence! So this means nothing! That's what you think, right?
Wait. Let me emphasise, Andrew J. Kline with the J, as written on the Veritas Law Firm official website.
Now look at this article about the sex-trafficking ring that got busted near Comet Ping Pong in 2008. The case was prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorney Krishna R. Patel and Civil Rights Division Trial Attorney Michael J. Frank, and assisted by Assistant U.S. Attorney and Criminal Chief Peter S. Jongbloed, and Civil Rights Division Special Litigation Counsel Andrew J. Kline.
Now ask yourself, is this really a coincidence that they both have the same first letter as their middle name?
IT IS NOT!
There is an article talking about former federal prosecutor, Andrew Kline. Apparently the D.C. Office of Bar Counsel is accusing Kline of keeping silent on the defense's alibi that he knew about regarding a drive-by shooting. It also mentioned that Kline received an award for Distinguished Service in 2009 while he was at the Civil Rights Division.
In this report, Andrew Kline is listed as a Member of the Bar of the District of Columbia.
DOJ Kline Timeline
Kline was D.C. Bar member and public servant since 1994.
Oh but wait! The biggest arguments you guys had was that they had different photos! Well guess what? I just had a look at the staff photos through the archive.
(Important: The profile picture was fixed 7 hours after this post was made, meaning Kline is 100% watching this board. We've got several users confirming that the profile picture link was broken through the archives, but now it's showing meaning someone manually fixed it)
2002: First trial starts 2006: Uptown Pizza registeredPNG 2009: Veritas Law Firm website created https://i.sli.mg/mGXdAV.pngPNG 2009: Kline receives attourney general award 2012: FORMER federal prosecutor accused of concealing information by Office of Bar, implying he's already QUIT
ANDREW KLINE OF THE VERITAS FIRM IS PUSHED EVERY TIME SOMEONE MENTIONS DOJ. THEY'RE SUBTLE SHILLS! Below I shall paste somebody else's speculation. The next day this guy made this post, Reddit sub was shut down.
This means, we've been coerced the conclude that Andrew Kline was a coincidence when it hasn't even been discussed! When there's no evidence that they're unrelated! Shills are doing it guys! We've been tricked.
Notice how, the media has been covering Pizzagate for the past 3 days - and there is no mention of Andrew Kline. Considering the writers have direct contacts in the DOJ and Clinton Foundation, this would be easily debunkable through a single phone call-yet they haven't. This is because it's true. They're currently searching for a second Andrew Kline to act as a scapegoat.
Kline is watching us guys! Archive image just got fixed five minutes ago, 7 hours after this post was made. Would appreciate witnesses who saw that the image didn't work until now. Coincidence or not, it got fixed soon as pizzathrowaway came back to post in multiple threads about Andrew Kline. (He's the guy I was referring to in the opening of this post). I didn't want to mention him name in the case that I was wrong, but I am doing it now because several users are accusing him of the same thing: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1437679
I am afraid you are mistaken this is far from proof. Andrew from Veritas's picture has been missing from the site until the last few weeks and was only updated post pizzagate revelations. Check it out for yourself, below was taken one month ago
Thx for reply, If you look above his name on mobile you will see the image missing icon, it gets somewhat hidden on responsive screen. If not can you please send a screenshot at some point of what you see.
Arun Rao is NOT an owner of ant identified pizza place. He has been mentioned bc he commented and "liked" numerous insragram pics of children on accounts like James Alefantis, suspicious bc he is DOJ - in child porn prosecution. Apparently his FB page also has tons o kid pics. Not necessarily damning but odd.
Someone deliberately left out key information when this was first posted on reddit, they used that image. See my post above for additional information on the Besta Pizza Andrew J. Kline. Here is the rest of the business filing:
Please hunt and find proof then. It is quite risky (and wrong) to misidentifying an attorney in DOJ, particularly when the same Andrew Klein, a real estate attorney, is listed as Agent on multiple, local restaurants.
Log on to the Washington DC Department of Consumer and Regulatory Affairs to look up the business which is called "Uptown Pizza LLC." That's Besta Pizza (it has the same address).
Here's a Linkedin which has an "Andrew J. Kline" who works at Veritas. It also has a comment from someone else dated 2008 from where he previously worked:
Seems he is basically their legal rep. That's his specialty. The better question would be where does the money come from to hire someone like him? Or is he simply a percentage partner in the business? Not sure I ever saw that cleared up. If he's a percentage owner, than why? And wouldn't that be a conflict of interest to lobby on their behalf? Assuming he's simply their legal rep, I go back to question #1, how would they afford him? Rent alone would squash most small businesses on Conn. Ave.
Legal firms will register a business for a small fee, and help set up the documents for the LLC. Usually the cost is quite minimal, as the registration is quite common. Perhaps $500, though you can go cheaper by using something like LegalZoom. That said, you can always call your lawyer up when you need to - which is when they start raking in the dough. You don't pay these guys 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year.
As for whether he's part owner of the business, it's possible, though unlikely. As for who the members of the LLC are, we can't know unless we see the LLC documentation and the tax returns. As far as we know, Alefantis is the managing member of the LLC. This could mean sole proprietorship, or he could have hidden partners.
Thanks for that. People have been so focused on him and I always go down the route of innocent until proven guilty and look for real world reasons why someone is connected to something. Certainly not every single person they've ever known or associate with is a pedo.
But it's good to confirm this one. In the last few days you guys have recovered the first few days of shill free digging. Pol was pretty sure this was a false lead early on.
antinous and luzzato are compelling as fuck. Good work.
YouaremeandIamyou ago
Whithouse referred to Jeff Gannon, by his assumed name, each time he was there, though knowing his real name.
YouaremeandIamyou ago
not necessarily. that is what the Whitehouse says. they have lost credibility. there is no garuantee, any of the people named in that photo, are who they say they are...
YouaremeandIamyou ago
https://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/6047293325/in/photolist-adnXC2-deS8E6-7NBDcb-6kJ2Gg-dhFmWv-djVQDn-2Unwi4-9VoUp9-2UrVW5-8kSGqH-h7vzsH-4CmtzQ-5rbctH-dPM4Qa-7pQBiD-z6pB9b-qhiMoE-8kVTmd-5sEwf-qjpKtP-EFjKGF-qhiMu1-8kSGkV-qhiMxY-q32o1L-7tpS8H-qjww25-8kSGp6-q3b33R-8kSGpB-8kSGnX-8kVTu3-8kVTxJ-87zfEa-2UnxGD-9V5Wpp-roKy58-88sCNe-9o1T2r-aoQRXs-7ZbUuJ-bvMgxq-9o4Web-9o4WvG-bvMgkw-cH3wt3-owa2Gz-rsEjJ5-9o1T4r-8kVTAf you mean this guy?
DIGITGIDGIT ago
Andrew Kline of Besta Pizza - We've Been Tricked! He's the REAL DEAL! (v/pizzagate)
8 days[deleted]
So I earlier I was having an argument with another user about Andrew Kline, the owner of Besta Pizza.
Originally we assumed that he was Special Litigation Counsel Andrew Kline, and one of four attourneys appointed by Clinton in the Human Trafficking Prosecution Unit of the Department of Justice, in the Civil Rights Division.
Then we found out Andrew J. Kline, an attourney at Veritas Law Firm, whose clients included Comet Ping Pong and Buck's Fishing and Camping. Oh, so he's an estate attourney and unrelated, their names were a coincidence! So this means nothing! That's what you think, right?
Wait. Let me emphasise, Andrew J. Kline with the J, as written on the Veritas Law Firm official website.
Now look at this article about the sex-trafficking ring that got busted near Comet Ping Pong in 2008. The case was prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorney Krishna R. Patel and Civil Rights Division Trial Attorney Michael J. Frank, and assisted by Assistant U.S. Attorney and Criminal Chief Peter S. Jongbloed, and Civil Rights Division Special Litigation Counsel Andrew J. Kline.
Now ask yourself, is this really a coincidence that they both have the same first letter as their middle name?
IT IS NOT!
There is an article talking about former federal prosecutor, Andrew Kline. Apparently the D.C. Office of Bar Counsel is accusing Kline of keeping silent on the defense's alibi that he knew about regarding a drive-by shooting. It also mentioned that Kline received an award for Distinguished Service in 2009 while he was at the Civil Rights Division.
In this report, Andrew Kline is listed as a Member of the Bar of the District of Columbia.
DOJ Kline Timeline
Kline was D.C. Bar member and public servant since 1994.
Oh but wait! The biggest arguments you guys had was that they had different photos! Well guess what? I just had a look at the staff photos through the archive.
If you look at the oldest archive of their staff page, you'd realize that Andrew Kline's photo doesn't show. This is a symptom of what happens when the photo is edited on the same link. Notice how all other photosPNG except for Andrew Kline's: https://web.archive.org/web/20160225153033/http://theveritaslawfirm.com/our-team/#tab-id-1
(Important: The profile picture was fixed 7 hours after this post was made, meaning Kline is 100% watching this board. We've got several users confirming that the profile picture link was broken through the archives, but now it's showing meaning someone manually fixed it)
2002: First trial starts 2006: Uptown Pizza registeredPNG 2009: Veritas Law Firm website created https://i.sli.mg/mGXdAV.pngPNG 2009: Kline receives attourney general award 2012: FORMER federal prosecutor accused of concealing information by Office of Bar, implying he's already QUIT
ANDREW KLINE OF THE VERITAS FIRM IS PUSHED EVERY TIME SOMEONE MENTIONS DOJ. THEY'RE SUBTLE SHILLS! Below I shall paste somebody else's speculation. The next day this guy made this post, Reddit sub was shut down.
This means, we've been coerced the conclude that Andrew Kline was a coincidence when it hasn't even been discussed! When there's no evidence that they're unrelated! Shills are doing it guys! We've been tricked.
Notice how, the media has been covering Pizzagate for the past 3 days - and there is no mention of Andrew Kline. Considering the writers have direct contacts in the DOJ and Clinton Foundation, this would be easily debunkable through a single phone call-yet they haven't. This is because it's true. They're currently searching for a second Andrew Kline to act as a scapegoat.
Kline is watching us guys! Archive image just got fixed five minutes ago, 7 hours after this post was made. Would appreciate witnesses who saw that the image didn't work until now. Coincidence or not, it got fixed soon as pizzathrowaway came back to post in multiple threads about Andrew Kline. (He's the guy I was referring to in the opening of this post). I didn't want to mention him name in the case that I was wrong, but I am doing it now because several users are accusing him of the same thing: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1437679
Malignment ago
Is it interesting that the veritas law firm logo linked above has a pedo logo in it?
LostandFound ago
I am afraid you are mistaken this is far from proof. Andrew from Veritas's picture has been missing from the site until the last few weeks and was only updated post pizzagate revelations. Check it out for yourself, below was taken one month ago
https://web.archive.org/web/20161102221358/http://theveritaslawfirm.com/our-team/
Malignment ago
I'm confused, I see his pic in all the archives
LostandFound ago
https://sli.mg/fpw6Zk - can you provide a screenshot of what you are seeing please? This was discussed on another post and no one could see his pic
Malignment ago
I just see his pic on all the wayback machine archives I clicked on phone...
All I did was follow your link to wayback and click through the snapshots (in safari iOS)
LostandFound ago
Thx for reply, If you look above his name on mobile you will see the image missing icon, it gets somewhat hidden on responsive screen. If not can you please send a screenshot at some point of what you see.
dindonufin ago
Anyway, a registered agent is not necessarily related to the business at all. Many lawyers offer that service for a fee to anyone.
Melitica ago
Arun Rao is NOT an owner of ant identified pizza place. He has been mentioned bc he commented and "liked" numerous insragram pics of children on accounts like James Alefantis, suspicious bc he is DOJ - in child porn prosecution. Apparently his FB page also has tons o kid pics. Not necessarily damning but odd.
VieBleu ago
This thread is confusing. What is the final outcome? Is OP correct or is there doubt. Thanks.
quantokitty ago
Is this the business filing?
http://sli.mg/A45Xa5
It says Andrew Klein. How do you know the first Andrew Klein is the agent? Is it because he specializes in leases?
I don't a have a dog in this fight, but I'd like to know why you think it's him.
pizzagateinvestigate ago
Someone deliberately left out key information when this was first posted on reddit, they used that image. See my post above for additional information on the Besta Pizza Andrew J. Kline. Here is the rest of the business filing:
http://imgur.com/a/YdN4w
You can verify this yourself by creating a free account a logging in to the govt database here:
https://corp.dcra.dc.gov/
pizzagateinvestigate ago
I accidentally posted the album and it's not letting me save my edit on the comment. Here is the image:
http://imgur.com/3UqOz0t
sentryseven ago
I saw proof that it WAS the same person.
Melitica ago
Please hunt and find proof then. It is quite risky (and wrong) to misidentifying an attorney in DOJ, particularly when the same Andrew Klein, a real estate attorney, is listed as Agent on multiple, local restaurants.
sentryseven ago
Here in this thread: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1437384
throwitawayn0w ago
Wait... but how did you confirm which Kline is connected to Besta?
pizzagateinvestigate ago
Log on to the Washington DC Department of Consumer and Regulatory Affairs to look up the business which is called "Uptown Pizza LLC." That's Besta Pizza (it has the same address).
Here's an image:
http://imgur.com/3UqOz0t
Then google the address of the registered agent and you'll see that it's Veritas law firm:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=1225+19th+St.%2C+NW%2C+%23320+washington+dc
Here's a Linkedin which has an "Andrew J. Kline" who works at Veritas. It also has a comment from someone else dated 2008 from where he previously worked:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-j-kline-95042a4
Freemasonsrus ago
Seems he is basically their legal rep. That's his specialty. The better question would be where does the money come from to hire someone like him? Or is he simply a percentage partner in the business? Not sure I ever saw that cleared up. If he's a percentage owner, than why? And wouldn't that be a conflict of interest to lobby on their behalf? Assuming he's simply their legal rep, I go back to question #1, how would they afford him? Rent alone would squash most small businesses on Conn. Ave.
Prepper_Jack ago
Legal firms will register a business for a small fee, and help set up the documents for the LLC. Usually the cost is quite minimal, as the registration is quite common. Perhaps $500, though you can go cheaper by using something like LegalZoom. That said, you can always call your lawyer up when you need to - which is when they start raking in the dough. You don't pay these guys 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year.
As for whether he's part owner of the business, it's possible, though unlikely. As for who the members of the LLC are, we can't know unless we see the LLC documentation and the tax returns. As far as we know, Alefantis is the managing member of the LLC. This could mean sole proprietorship, or he could have hidden partners.
Freemasonsrus ago
Thanks for that. People have been so focused on him and I always go down the route of innocent until proven guilty and look for real world reasons why someone is connected to something. Certainly not every single person they've ever known or associate with is a pedo.
DystopianDaze ago
Thank you. I've posted that multiple times.
Melitica ago
I have "cleared" error several times as well.
DystopianDaze ago
Frustrating.
VictorDaniels777 ago
If this information is accurate it is just as important as evidence against.
rivercontrol ago
Totally. I wish we had a repository of evidence.
PizzaGateExpress ago
Use pizzagate.host to document everything.
grlldcheese ago
They keep getting nuked.
But it's good to confirm this one. In the last few days you guys have recovered the first few days of shill free digging. Pol was pretty sure this was a false lead early on.
antinous and luzzato are compelling as fuck. Good work.
Scoundrel ago
Antionous, yes, that was an avalanche for me. Right there glaring at us, so open, he literally thought he was going to get away with this forever.
rivercontrol ago
I believe it.
MichelleObamasPenis ago
What are the different middle names then?