COMMUNITY DISCUSSION - on shills, and setting subverse specific CCP requirements (link to previous background sticky inside) (pizzagate)

submitted ago by kingkongwaswrong

FOR BACKGROUND AND THE STICKY, SEE HERE https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1434672

On Shills and the past couple of days

Shills are real. For anyone who doesn't know what a shill is, they are someone paid to disrupt or influence online discourse. For examples of shills admitting their operations see here - http://archive.is/6JSUX

Here are some of the tactics shills use - https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

We've had a lot of these thrown at us in the past few days and we've managed to weather it in an ok fashion. I'm really proud of you guys as you're starting to be able to distinguish the shillery and downvote the shit-tier posts.

The correct response to shills is to ignore and downvote.

Also, this is a call to arms for everyone here. Please use your voats to help keep this place healthy. The less moderation has to be done, the better it is for all of us.

Need your input - should we set a minimum subverse CCP?

In the subverse settings, we can set a minimum CCP that people have to get in our sub before they can downvote in our sub.

This means that both new accounts and existing voaters have to contribute and get upvotes in /v/pizzagate before they can start downvoting our submissions.

The only downside is that this will remove us from the front page of voat.

Initially I didnt think this was a good idea as we were such a new community, but I think we have our footing now and this could help us with 'paid downvotes' and bots as well as shills cycling through new accounts or buying existing voat accounts.

Let me know your thoughts below.

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Nicefind ago

Isn't that already in place? I can't downvote until I reach 100. 87 now.

kingkongwaswrong ago

but you can get that 100 from posting anywhere in voat. The sub specific setting would mean you'd have to get at least x from this sub

lockherup ago

Give it time... most of the pizzagate subscribers are just a week old. As these members begin to hit their 100ccp, the community will be able to downvote the shills into oblivion, and the mods will have to do less work. If you raise the ccp threshold then you will just extend the time it takes for this to happen. Keep in mind that shills can be downvoted and lose their ccp once they are exposed.

Nicefind ago

Ah thanks

sleepingbeautycan ago

I guess that would work. They would have to pretend to be one of us for a while before they could show their true colours.

WellSetTable ago

Not really three of them just joined on the last week of November and are "shilling shilling shilling on the river"