Temporary Sticky: NEW MOD RULES & DISCUSSION/FEEDBACK (pizzagate)

submitted ago by kingkongwaswrong

There has been a lot of discussion and drama re modding lately. We have multiple camps of opinions.

I want whats best for this sub. I'm not an experienced mod but I can see that leaving everything to its own devices has led to a lot of circlejerk, concern trolling, waste of space submissions.

This subverse is for the investigation of pizzagate connections, to further our understanding of the situation and find more relationships and potentially some evidence.

We are all concerned about shills and the subverse being compromised. Make no mistake, shills are here and in great force. They are trying to create drama, they are trying to frame us as racists, they are trying to mislead us and they are trying to distract us.

To that end, I am going to put the following rules in place and as mods we will start to enforce them. The purpose of these rules is to concentrate the efforts here and facilitate meaningful dialogue, as well as remove all the noise. This is going to be hard. Sorting things is hard. We will make mistakes. We will ask you guys for input. Please feel free to check the mod logs at all times and call us out if you have any objections.

These rules are open for discussion, below. Please let me know your thoughts.

1. Concern trolling posts will be deleted unless substantiated or adding significant value

There are currently a number of concern troll posts - such as concerns about antisemitism (that have zero examples or proof), concerns about the fact that we're doing it wrong etc. Concern trolling adds no value to the sub, it clutters it. We want to hear your concerns, you can IM us or use the @ handle.

2. Zero tolerance for spam

Spam posts will be deleted and users banned.

3. Title/picture only posts with no explanation

This is an investigation, explain how your submission is linked in. Dont be lazy.

Like I mentioned, I'm new to modding. We may add more rules as you guys comment below, and we may change the above. But for now I'm going to do a bit of a cleanup, feel free to provide feedback. I'm sick of the state of things as much as you guys.

If you want to be helpful, here's a link to the previous sticky which we will reinstate soon. It contains direction and where to focus - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1434672

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VictorSteinerDavion ago

Community member @VieBleu is asking for an addition to the rules regarding advocation of violence

I propose a rule that submissions or comments that promote vigilante justice and or violence are not tolerated. Every person using this forum is asked to engage with the originator if they run across this kind of content and ask them to modify it or take it down. If they do not do so upon being asked, or are not online, their content will be removed.
When asking someone to tone down or take down violent content, the suggested approach is to say something like "Content that promotes violence or vigilante justice is not tolerated among the pizzagate community. Please take that type of free speech to another venue."

I consider a rule explicitly dealing with this to be important and adding something to the "On Concerns" section would probably address this.

Something to consider is that it would be a bad idea to delete posts advocating violence, my personal preference is to have a process using the report spam button and a copypasta reply from the mod team containing the appropriate text.
I think calling on the community itself to shun these kinds of comments is probably the most effective and rapid way to deal with this, having a rule to point to can add weight.
Pointing out that the community is an investigation and information gathering one, calls for vigilantism have no place here.

Repeat offenders can get the copypasta treatment, and ultimately banned if it is very clear that they are working against the intent of the community.