There has been a lot of discussion and drama re modding lately. We have multiple camps of opinions.
I want whats best for this sub. I'm not an experienced mod but I can see that leaving everything to its own devices has led to a lot of circlejerk, concern trolling, waste of space submissions.
This subverse is for the investigation of pizzagate connections, to further our understanding of the situation and find more relationships and potentially some evidence.
We are all concerned about shills and the subverse being compromised. Make no mistake, shills are here and in great force. They are trying to create drama, they are trying to frame us as racists, they are trying to mislead us and they are trying to distract us.
To that end, I am going to put the following rules in place and as mods we will start to enforce them. The purpose of these rules is to concentrate the efforts here and facilitate meaningful dialogue, as well as remove all the noise. This is going to be hard. Sorting things is hard. We will make mistakes. We will ask you guys for input. Please feel free to check the mod logs at all times and call us out if you have any objections.
These rules are open for discussion, below. Please let me know your thoughts.
1. Concern trolling posts will be deleted unless substantiated or adding significant value
There are currently a number of concern troll posts - such as concerns about antisemitism (that have zero examples or proof), concerns about the fact that we're doing it wrong etc. Concern trolling adds no value to the sub, it clutters it. We want to hear your concerns, you can IM us or use the @ handle.
2. Zero tolerance for spam
Spam posts will be deleted and users banned.
3. Title/picture only posts with no explanation
This is an investigation, explain how your submission is linked in. Dont be lazy.
Like I mentioned, I'm new to modding. We may add more rules as you guys comment below, and we may change the above. But for now I'm going to do a bit of a cleanup, feel free to provide feedback. I'm sick of the state of things as much as you guys.
If you want to be helpful, here's a link to the previous sticky which we will reinstate soon. It contains direction and where to focus - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1434672
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philomath ago
Edit - after re-reading your post, I would like you to clarify what you intend to do with posts that violate your rules.
Just my opinion, but you're making a mistake. A big one. This isn't reddit.
The entire ecosystem here is set up to allow user moderation through upvoats and downvoats. It makes navigation more difficult and slower because you do have to weed through stuff you don't agree with and don't want to see, but that is a worthwhile sacrifice. It ensures that authoritarian individuals don't get the power to speak for the entire community. While I'm sure your intentions are good, they may not always be, or those that come after you may not be.
I think you need to get the community more accustomed to speaking with the voats and letting them moderate themselves. It's a change and will not feel normal overnight, but is the right thing to do. Jumping into Voat waters and imposing reddit customs is wrong. It's against everything we stand for, and I'm frankly a little shocked at your eagerness to do so.
Spuddlebuns ago
Point is, this is NOT your usual, 'Stream of Consciousness,' post any stupid outrageous shit you want, just because you can subverse. As has been CLEARLY pointed out over and over and OVER again,
This subverse is for the investigation of pizzagate connections, to further our understanding of the situation and find more relationships and potentially some evidence.
THIS subverse is not for the morons and trolls to shit all over everything just because they are uncensored. There are other topics to go squat on. Not here.
philomath ago
You can say that all you want, but you guys are not special. This site is bigger than you and should not have to change because you were welcomed here. If you can't get behind that then maybe voat isn't for you.
This is sounding more and more like Europe right now. Please know, authoritative and prepressive subverses wont be tolerated.
EndThePizza ago
Don't we have the right to run the subverse in the way we as the subverse community think is best? Any organization can set whatever rules it wants for itself. Anyone who doesn't like it can go to another subverse.
piratse ago
No, you have the right to run it in the way the WEBSITE/ADMINS (who are very much about free speech) deem best, and you can have rules within that scope.