Devil's advocate, but couldn't this potentially interfere with the people's due process? I mean isn't he essentially doxxing people he believes are pedophiles before they have their day in court? I understand that he would have contacted them online and they may have turned up to meet what they thought were underage people, but that's not my point. I know voat is staunchly anti-pedo, but I'm not defending pedophiles, I'm defending due process. If we let it erode for those we despise, then it simultaneously erodes for those we like as well, even though we may not witness it right away.
I think you are right. Hes saying he jist 'handed them over' to police. So basically he is a self appointed cop and days he is not even thoughj that is exactly what he is doing.
Hell if this is legal why not let everyone be cops woth no training or background check. Also if you simply imagine this is appropriate you could see him meeting another self appointed cop who was 'just indercover'. I suppose if he werent mak8ng citizens arrests it would be legal but that is not what the article says.
I sure would like to baot a package thief with a package with gps on my porch and then follow them and seat their house. But thats illegal because i am not a vop.
If someone is raping a child or distirbing the public peace and it is valled for, i might perform a citozens arrest
As far as I'm aware, if there is someone that is clearly breaking a law then it is perfectly legal to perform a citizen's arrest. But you also leave yourself open to legal action potentially, which cops wouldn't have to worry so much about as they have the departments resources to deal with all that.
The reason cops don't run the risk isn't because of departmental resources but because of the law. They have legal immunity because they are empowered by the state and operating with its powers. There are very few instances in which a private citizen is empowered to make a citizens arrest and even fewer where they would enjoy any sort of immunity from liability for anything they did wrong while doing so.
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fortuitouslyunfallen ago
Devil's advocate, but couldn't this potentially interfere with the people's due process? I mean isn't he essentially doxxing people he believes are pedophiles before they have their day in court? I understand that he would have contacted them online and they may have turned up to meet what they thought were underage people, but that's not my point. I know voat is staunchly anti-pedo, but I'm not defending pedophiles, I'm defending due process. If we let it erode for those we despise, then it simultaneously erodes for those we like as well, even though we may not witness it right away.
Mytempacct20171001 ago
I think you are right. Hes saying he jist 'handed them over' to police. So basically he is a self appointed cop and days he is not even thoughj that is exactly what he is doing.
Hell if this is legal why not let everyone be cops woth no training or background check. Also if you simply imagine this is appropriate you could see him meeting another self appointed cop who was 'just indercover'. I suppose if he werent mak8ng citizens arrests it would be legal but that is not what the article says.
I sure would like to baot a package thief with a package with gps on my porch and then follow them and seat their house. But thats illegal because i am not a vop.
If someone is raping a child or distirbing the public peace and it is valled for, i might perform a citozens arrest
fortuitouslyunfallen ago
As far as I'm aware, if there is someone that is clearly breaking a law then it is perfectly legal to perform a citizen's arrest. But you also leave yourself open to legal action potentially, which cops wouldn't have to worry so much about as they have the departments resources to deal with all that.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
The reason cops don't run the risk isn't because of departmental resources but because of the law. They have legal immunity because they are empowered by the state and operating with its powers. There are very few instances in which a private citizen is empowered to make a citizens arrest and even fewer where they would enjoy any sort of immunity from liability for anything they did wrong while doing so.