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kalgon ago

My niggas my niggas,

https://www.wrmea.org/015-october/the-scofield-bible-the-book-that-made-zionists-of-americas-evangelical-christians.html

The Scofield Bible—The Book That Made Zionists of America’s Evangelical Christians

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Two years after Scofield’s reported conversion to Christianity in 1879, the Atchison Patriot was less than impressed. Describing the former Atchison resident as the “late lawyer, politician and shyster generally,” the article went on to recount a few of Scofield’s “many malicious acts.” These included a series of forgeries in St. Louis, for which he was sentenced to six months in jail.

Being a “born again” preacher did not preclude Scofield from becoming a member of an exclusive New York men’s club in 1901, either. In his devastating biography, The Incredible Scofield and His Book, Joseph M. Canfield suggests, “The admission of Scofield to the Lotus Club, which could not have been sought by Scofield, strengthens the suspicion that has cropped up before, that someone was directing the career of C.I. Scofield.”

That someone, Canfield suspects, was associated with one of the club’s committee members, the Wall Street lawyer Samuel Untermeyer. As Canfield intimates, Scofield’s theology was “most helpful in getting Fundamentalist Christians to back the international interest in one of Untermeyer’s pet projects—the Zionist Movement.”

Others have been even more explicit about the nature of Scofield’s service to the Zionist agenda. In “Unjust War Theory: Christian Zionism and the Road to Jerusalem,” Prof. David W. Lutz writes, “Untermeyer used Scofield, a Kansas City lawyer with no formal training in theology, to inject Zionist ideas into American Protestantism. Untermeyer and other wealthy and influential Zionists whom he introduced to Scofield promoted and funded the latter’s career, including travel in Europe.”

killdozer ago

Crazy stuff. I think this is one of the most pertinent issues to tackle. What's the game plan?

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fuckingmockies ago

I have been trying to make the argument that the culture and spirituality that shaped European society predates Christianity by tens of thousands of years - that Christianity is a foreign, invading spirituality.

I try to make the argument that if it had been Islam that conquered Europe and destroyed and replaced our natural spirituality instead of Christianity, they'd be devout Muslims quoting the Koran and defending Mohammed. Most seem to think they'd recognize the inherent truth of Christianity and convert. Unlikely.

I try to make the argument that behavior is biologically rooted, and spirituality is a reflection of a people's most respected behaviors - the race creates the religion. This is one of the reasons I hate Christianity so much; it's the spiritual version of Civic Nationalism.

I'm mostly wasting my breath. If these people were capable of critical thinking, they'd have reached these conclusions a long time ago.

Most think that Jews hate Christians and therefore Christianity is the best way to oppose them. Their view of history goes back only five to ten decades. This racisl struggle has been going on a lot longer than that.

Western Civilization was built despite Christianity, not because of it. Western Civilization is a white creation. Not a Christian one.

Remygoys1788 ago

How far back does western civilization go? Were neadrethals in Spain part of the "west"? How about nomadic deer hunters in Ireland thousands of years ago? What about the Huns? When does the "west" start?

What about ancient Chinese civilization? It goes back 5k years, continuously. Is it Chinese civilization or "yellow" civilization? What about Japanese civilization, Vietnamese,. Etc.

Was "yellow" civilization DESTROYED by Buddhism? Were Buddhist monks the destroyers of yellow, oriental civilization because it came from India?

depehb ago

lol retard

fuckingmockies ago

Name calling? How unchristlike of you.

kalgon ago

Make sure every single christian zionist in america sees this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSy6ENVAJlY

From beginning to end

https://biblehub.com/revelation/3-9.htm

I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

http://archive.is/P5Xza

Netanyahu’s statement may be startling to some, but it does make sense if one’s priority for Israel is to hold on to all the biblical land. They were Netanyahu’s best friends, better friends than President Clinton from that perspective, with whom he was meeting the next day and who was pressuring Netanyahu as well as the Palestinians to meaningfully negotiate. For the Likud party and their supporters, this was a smart political alliance. Liberal objections about the real motives of these Evangelicals were not persuasive. True, these Christian right leaders believed the real significance of the State of Israel was its role in the apocalyptic end-times scenario, which they believed would culminate in the wiping out of most Jews and the conversion of the remaining few. This is deeply problematic and offensive for us as Jews. One could argue, however, that we don’t believe in these visions of the end time anyway, so what do they matter? If we agree on what should happen in this world, why not agree to disagree on what happens in the next.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFr4C2BPLeM

knije_tahou ago

Fantastic comment. I've saved it for future reference. That YouTube video is really eye opening