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Obrez ago

To fill in the context for any users who have seen my name around this issue, I do want and have wanted u/aged's "content" removed from this sub since the beginning and I take issue with being called a defender of aged's, I'm not defending him as a person or what he does, merely I am resisting the notion that what he has been doing is against the rules, and actively saying that a rule should be added into v/gaming to make posting low effort smut (as he has been doing) a ban offense, this content is clearly unwanted but what he is posting is gaming related in that the characters are all from video games and v/gaming allows NSFW posts, banning NSFW posts isn't the answer because that could bite us in the ass when discussing real news in gaming or the release of certain games and for that same reason we must be careful in defining "Low Effort" if it is to become an element of a rule so it cannot be manipulated by any future moderation to shutdown discussion they don't like.

"Low effort" being defined as: Any content which is NOT

  • Presently relevant to the community at large and it's interests or current events
  • Original Content from the poster
  • Their commissioned work
  • Their cosplay, or photo they took of/with any other cosplayer(s)

"Low Effort" would not define a working game, a game in current development, articles written about said games or community discussion on a game.

I also take exception to the notion of vote brigading against u/theoldones, "brigading" implies coordination but in reality he has simply independently pissed off a fair number of individuals across voat with his scummy flame war anti-logic and ultimately impotent power tripping. The guy is just awful and has been involved in doxing, dox requests, witchhunts based on lies, brigading, openly making threats to users, spamming this and other subs with updates on his personal beefs, flamewars, and demands on who should be banned on the basis of his personal opinions (not the rules), ping spamming, requesting other users post/link what he defines as CP or Jailbait, he makes lists of his detractors and tries to sic mobs on them under false pretenses, his whole crusade against aged appears to be little more than him attempting to legitimize his scummy behavior and incompetent methodology and "logic" by going after a universally disliked individual (a tactic he has used previously). He also just blatantly lies to deceive people about inane things either because he wants people to embarrass themselves by regurgitating his convenient to believe fake news or is actually too stupid to realize he is the rube posting the fake news, he also seems to be running an alt(s) to upvoat his posts and downvoat his detractors, and has tried to gather steam behind IP banning all TOR and VPN exit nodes. He's cancer.

I digress, I think if aged is to be banned retro-active banning based on new rules is a bad precedent for the whole of Voat, if he is the autist we know him to be he will post even after the rules are changed and can then be banned straight away.

To some folks I'm sure I seem nit picky about all of this but I want voat to be better than reddit in all ways, at all times, and never susceptible to the machinations of power mods playing politics hearkening back to old precedents set carelessly.

For further context on any image of personal drama to some who might try to read between lines, know that I support sguevar, in this opportunity for dialogue and any other, because no matter our disagreements we can discuss our differences of opinion like adults, and that I have faith in Putt's leadership, because the three of us all agree on the end results, I'm just being picky on how we get there because I believe the devil is in the details, and sometimes that means playing devil's advocate to catch loopholes and loose ends before they get made.

DANKESTGHIDORAH ago

I agree with this post, said better than I could. My issue with Aged is that he doesn't actually post anything about gaming, just lewd shit, and subs for that sort of shit already exist, so he's really spamming off topic shit. A picture of a video game character isn't gaming related, gaming is the activity of playing games, not appreciating pictures.

I have no idea what the issue is with theoldones on the gaming sub, I haven't seen or paid attention to it, but I've tried to have conversations with the guy before to no avail. Dude just seems to have an obvious motive with all discussions, it's off putting.