How to resolve v/gaming current situation? (gaming)

submitted ago by sguevar

I personally agreed with u/Aged ban from v/gaming before.

However, despite of disagreeing with his defenders, I think the v/gaming community needs a chance to getting this resolved in a more diplomatic way.

Since we are all getting annoyed by the constant posts done by u/theoldones and his detractors, which I should say are engaging in downvote brigading - yes both parties - then I think we need to handle this matter differently.

I have actually paid close attention to the hole situation and liked what @Obrez had to say about it on his reply to my comment on this post: https://voat.co/v/whatever/3142426.

My comment - https://voat.co/v/whatever/3142426/17859850 Obrez's comment - https://voat.co/v/whatever/3142426/17869265

This is why I created this poll to allow the v/gaming community to sort this matter once and for all and we can all move on. This should also work as a precedent to solve any other similar issue on different system and public subs:

LINK REMOVED FOR REVIEW

THIS POLL IS COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS AND NO PERSONAL INFORMATION IS NEEDED TO FILL IT

This poll will be active until this Sunday, April 14th at 4 pm CST.

I shall then make a new post on v/gaming with the results of the poll asking for @Puttitout to honor it's results.

UPDATE:-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The link of the poll has been removed for review and consultation with PuttItOut, Cynabuns and MadWorld.

Some users presented good additional alternatives to creating a new rule and hence they need to be presented on the poll as well.

Plus @thantik presented a valid concern regarding the wording of the poll in question. (Despite calling me a kike like a faggot XD - but hey, all in good faith).

So I will be recreating the poll to contain all the alternatives I saw plausible and viable instead of creating a new rule on v/gaming and that reduce the risk of being a push poll.

I want this to be as least biased as possible allowing an objective presentation of the results so the v/gaming community can decide what to do with this whole matter. I will be returning with a new post and a completely corrected poll.

Sorry for the nuances here and thanks for the feedback!

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Dortex ago

Ahh yes. Because a poll will fix our problems. Good job internet guy. You've fixed the purity spiral problem.

sguevar ago

Actually the poll will provide data to see if new rules are needed on the v\gaming community or not. If they are we can chose from the words of the users on the v/gaming community the best wording for said rules to avoid the spam u/Aged is engaging on.

If they are not, then there shouldn't be more posts complaining about the posts he is engaging and simply downvote and move on.

I think is a fairly easy to understand. What are your doubts about it?

Dortex ago

There is no possible outcome to this that would leave things better than they started.

Putt ignored poll future:

  1. Poll wants new rule. 1.1 opponents reasonably claim sample selection bias and keep posting/downvoting.
  2. Poll doesn't want new rule. 2.1 Opponents reasonably claim sample selection bias and keep posting/downvoting.

Putt honors poll future:

  1. Poll wants new rule. 1.1. Opponents reasonably claim sample selection bias and keep posting/downvoting. 1 2.Voat has set precedent for making rules to appease the sensibilities of users.

  2. Poll doesn't want new rule. 2.1 Opponents reasonably claim sample selection bias and keep posting/downvoting.

sguevar ago

That is a reasonable concern, butI think we will have to deal with that at the appropiate time. So far my interest is to post the results after a week so the v/gaming subscribers have time to express themselves about this.

Dortex ago

Sample selection bias. You're not understanding what that it. That is not a randomly sampled poll. The kind of person that would vote on this is a niche within several other nested niches. And Putt. Is likely unwilling to keep responding to mobs.

sguevar ago

I am calling for all to vote. Including those that do not care about the situation to express that on the vote. I know you can see this as a fool's hope but with any outcome the results will be posted and we should see what the majority of the community wants.

There is nothing to lose to select the options "I don't care" on the poll.

And Putt. Is likely unwilling to keep responding to mobs.

Engaging in dialogue to reach common ground is not engaging in a mob. This is simply the perspective of someone that doesn't care to allow an individual to trump on the voices others. I am simply looking for all the members of the v/gaming to express themselves regarding this matter in an anonymous way so we can move forward.