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Broc_Lia ago

for dumping his hentai stash into a fucking SFW subreddit.

Rule 7.: Mark all NSFW posts appropriately.

The sub doesn't seem to agree with you on that.

theoldones ago

Spam (Voat)

Content violates spam guidelines

Broc_Lia ago

The spam guidelines are designed to hit commercial content or people promoting their youtube channel and such. I doubt someone posting a lot of the same type of content would qualify.

sguevar ago

If the site manager hadden applied the spam rule to this ban then maybe I would agree with you. But that is not the case.

Also you can spam more than commercial content like the user did. His content is not gaming related. Is art work related.

Broc_Lia ago

As I understand it it's artwork related to games.

The global spam rule on voat recognises two forms of spam:

  • Commercial spam, which clearly this wasn't

  • Self promotion spam (spamming links to your own blog/youtube channel etc.) which again, this wasn't.

Arguably you could make a broader rule against spam specific to this sub, I've done so in /v/movieswithgoats, but that hasn't been done yet and the global rule doesn't apply to this kind of thing.

sguevar ago

As I understand it it's artwork related to games.

Art work is mainly for marketing. Nothing more. Fan art still related to art work as it is indirectly promoting said game in some way. Nonetheless art work and fan art are not gaming related.

The user is more than welcome to create a subverse for artwork and fan art or generate a discussion about art work being important for the game development but in itself it is not related to gaming.

the global rule doesn't apply to this kind of thing.

I beg to differ for the reasons explained above.

Broc_Lia ago

Art work is mainly for marketing. Nothing more. Fan art still related to art work as it is indirectly promoting said game in some way. Nonetheless art work and fan art are not gaming related.

That's seriously stretching the definition of commercial content. Anyhow, that still wouldn't work unless he's posting more artwork related to a single game he's involved in developing more than anything else.

Nonetheless art work and fan art are not gaming related.

I disagree, and if that's to be the case from now on there very much needs to be a specific rule saying so as it's not at all obvious.

I beg to differ for the reasons explained above.

Have you read the global rule? It's still pinned on /v/reportspammers

sguevar ago

I have read the rule.

Why don't you define to me gaming then. Please tell me what is gaming?

So far what I know is that artwork is related to the game development and marketing. It is not related to gaming besides the fact that is used to appeal to the visual attraction of the gamers. But related to gaming in which way? Artwork doesn't improve the gaming capabilities of the games. It is used for commercial purposes.

The user never generated any discussion at all about gaming he simply spammed images of game characters. That is it. No discussion generating is simply spamming images to create discord on an specific subverse that he didn't use to be part of in the past. His spamming is just recent.

Broc_Lia ago

Why don't you define to me gaming then. Please tell me what is gaming?

I don't see the value of getting into a discussion about the edge cases of what might be considered a game. Metroid is clearly a game and content related to metroid is what this sub is for. Samus Arran isn't even an underage character.

So far what I know is that artwork is related to the game development and marketing. It is not related to gaming

Contradiction in terms. Look, I don't think you're arguing in good faith here so I'm going to drop this.

sguevar ago

I don't see the value of getting into a discussion about the edge cases of what might be considered a game. Metroid is clearly a game and content related to metroid is what this sub is for. Samus Arran isn't even an underage character.

But you still are arguing that artwork and fanart are gaming related. Which I fail to see the relation besides the development and marketing of said game.

I am a gamer. As a gamer I know gaming is about the functionality of the games, the updates, the bugs, game strategies, characters profiles/abilities, esports, computer specs to support a specific game, game consoles, game storylines, etc.

Artwork and fanart are simply artistics expressions inspired by the games storyline, characters, etc but are not related to gaming. They are related to the game yes, but not gaming.

Contradiction in terms. Look, I don't think you're arguing in good faith here so I'm going to drop this.

You see the contradiction because you are still unable to define gaming. You think gaming = content related to game and that is in fact incorrect. But we can agree to disagree if you so like.

theoldones ago

well check the subs banned user logs then

Rule Violation: Spam; Description: Spams borderline lolicon for attention

it seems to qualify, yes.

theoldones ago

it would appear you just linked me something now outdated :p

Broc_Lia ago

Reportspammers is outdated because of the report system putt instituted. But as far as I know those guidelines are still the official ones for voat.

theoldones ago

k.

did you check the banned users list yet?

Broc_Lia ago

If I were to do so, what would this achieve?