First off, I need to say that I know I’ve let a lot of you down (if not all). I know I’ve not met your expectations of an admin or a leader. I have no excuses as even I feel this way about myself. I won’t make attempts for empathy, I will only acknowledge the truth, and it is such.
Life is full of surprises. You can be rich one minute and living out of your car the next. You can be healthy one year and a regular in the doctor’s office the following. You can have life figured out only to discover you know nothing in the end. The only constant in life is change.
My life is not the same it was when I first met @Atko and started working on Voat. I have much less time, I have a bit less fight in me (getting old does this), I have a bit more struggle in life. These life changes have forced me to put Voat on the back burner (which hurts me).
Let’s get real
When it comes to “Free Speech” sites, I once believed that people cared enough about the value of free speech to make “clone” sites like Voat (or gab) successful. I’ve come to realize, and have said before, that this single factor isn’t enough. People simply do not value this right enough to make a “clone” successful.
You can see this with Voat. A majority of Voat users still use Reddit. People use Reddit for posting and interacting when it comes to PC topics (4 wheel drive subs, movie subs, book subs, etc.). They use Voat to post the things they can’t post on Reddit. This creates an imbalance where Voat becomes increasingly un-PC, while Reddit gets the neutral content (I know even the most hardened ideologue has a level of civility). The end result is this imbalance drives people away as people wear out when confronted by content like this over the long run.
I don’t know the solution to this, and I am not attempting to pass blame, I am simply stating a truth that has to considered.
What makes a clone not a clone?
Why I mention this in the first place is that I know a “clone” site will not become sustainable based on Freedom of Speech so I’ve tried to revolutionize the “community” aspect of Voat by providing a way the community itself can “vote” on policy (rules, mods, anything actually). It's the future capability of this feature-set that is appealing. A community can become self-sustaining and self-manageable through this new technology. After all, the draw of sites like Voat or Reddit is that it is community-oriented vs. self-oriented.
And I’m going to finish it. I’m going to finish it for me. I’m going to finish it for you. I’m going to finish it for Voat. I’m going to finish it for Freedom of Speech (because I still believe in this ideal).
I’m going to finish it because a “clone” site with no differentiation but policy will never succeed.
So Voat, please forgive me for my shortcomings if you can, and expect my work to continue on making Voat a truly unique website.
Soon.
P.S. Downtime today was because of a full disk (Thanks @derram for letting me know). We had an issue from about a year ago that inflated some files to crazy sizes and I took the time today to deal with this. So the next downtime should be something completely different! Yay!
https://voat.co/v/announcements/1330806
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CheeseboogersGhost ago
Voat needs to try and draw in new members. How do we do that? Maybe make quality internet fliers and advertise on other sites or wherever? We also need professional members(doctors, lawyers, etc) so we can destroy the stigma that free speech is bad.
TheBuddha ago
Ain't nobody wanting to join us, 'booger.
Seriously, would you invite @9-11 into your home? Me either, and I'll let most goats in. Not him, however. He'd fuck my dog, or some weird shit.
Now, imagine Joe Fucking Average cracking open a beer and opening up Voat for the first time, only to be greated by 9-11 or someone like @tallest_skil. They ain't staying. No. No, they are backing right the fuck up and leaving, never to return. Some of 'em are gonna block it at the firewall level, or at least use the HOSTS file.
We are not the kind of folks regular people want to visit. We might be able to advertise it as 'Come watch the criminally insane!'
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Yeah but people can still do their thing here. If some user is saying things that they don't like all they have to do is use the block feature.
I get it. Maybe Voat needs to be two layers; There's the deep part where all can exist. Then out front there is one for privileged members? A Risky commenters tool. If you want to make a thread and their is a 'risky commenters not allowed' box to check. Now, we run into censorship and that sucks, and it would have to be hashed out WHO is a risky commenter but I think a system like that would work. Its probably the only way to save Voat. Maybe later once there are enough members drop the RC bullshit?
Or just COME AS YOU ARE
TheBuddha ago
AS YOU WERE, AS YOU WANT ME TO BE
He lied. He did have a gun.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
I want to see those crime scene photo's
TheBuddha ago
I'm pretty partial to my dog. I've known him longer than I've known the missus. Sometimes, I like him more.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
huh?
TheBuddha ago
I said he'd probably fuck my dog, or some weird shit. I like my dog.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
haha I'm lost. Who would fuck your duck?
TheBuddha ago
Dog and @9-11 and I just realized you meant Cobain's crime scene.
I was still stuck on imagining him fucking my dog and how the encounter would go.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
heh heh I was like wtf hahahaha
TheBuddha ago
Me too! It took me a minute.
When I get bored, I like to imagine him working at places like convenience stores and fast food joints. This amuses me.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
lol Are we talking about Cobain now or 9-11?
TheBuddha ago
Both, now that I think about it.
Here... Imagine the cash register broke and 9-11 has to figure out tax, count back change, and be polite to the customer - who is an asshole. Go on... Process that thought and tell me it didn't make you smile.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
I'm not gonna lie. It makes me smile
TheBuddha ago
Yeah... It's 1.42 and sales tax is 5%, so 1.49 and that only took him 20 minutes, six crayons, and now he's gotta figure out what to do next because she gave him 5.10!
I'd watch that shit on pirated YouTube videos.