First off, I need to say that I know I’ve let a lot of you down (if not all). I know I’ve not met your expectations of an admin or a leader. I have no excuses as even I feel this way about myself. I won’t make attempts for empathy, I will only acknowledge the truth, and it is such.
Life is full of surprises. You can be rich one minute and living out of your car the next. You can be healthy one year and a regular in the doctor’s office the following. You can have life figured out only to discover you know nothing in the end. The only constant in life is change.
My life is not the same it was when I first met @Atko and started working on Voat. I have much less time, I have a bit less fight in me (getting old does this), I have a bit more struggle in life. These life changes have forced me to put Voat on the back burner (which hurts me).
Let’s get real
When it comes to “Free Speech” sites, I once believed that people cared enough about the value of free speech to make “clone” sites like Voat (or gab) successful. I’ve come to realize, and have said before, that this single factor isn’t enough. People simply do not value this right enough to make a “clone” successful.
You can see this with Voat. A majority of Voat users still use Reddit. People use Reddit for posting and interacting when it comes to PC topics (4 wheel drive subs, movie subs, book subs, etc.). They use Voat to post the things they can’t post on Reddit. This creates an imbalance where Voat becomes increasingly un-PC, while Reddit gets the neutral content (I know even the most hardened ideologue has a level of civility). The end result is this imbalance drives people away as people wear out when confronted by content like this over the long run.
I don’t know the solution to this, and I am not attempting to pass blame, I am simply stating a truth that has to considered.
What makes a clone not a clone?
Why I mention this in the first place is that I know a “clone” site will not become sustainable based on Freedom of Speech so I’ve tried to revolutionize the “community” aspect of Voat by providing a way the community itself can “vote” on policy (rules, mods, anything actually). It's the future capability of this feature-set that is appealing. A community can become self-sustaining and self-manageable through this new technology. After all, the draw of sites like Voat or Reddit is that it is community-oriented vs. self-oriented.
And I’m going to finish it. I’m going to finish it for me. I’m going to finish it for you. I’m going to finish it for Voat. I’m going to finish it for Freedom of Speech (because I still believe in this ideal).
I’m going to finish it because a “clone” site with no differentiation but policy will never succeed.
So Voat, please forgive me for my shortcomings if you can, and expect my work to continue on making Voat a truly unique website.
Soon.
P.S. Downtime today was because of a full disk (Thanks @derram for letting me know). We had an issue from about a year ago that inflated some files to crazy sizes and I took the time today to deal with this. So the next downtime should be something completely different! Yay!
https://voat.co/v/announcements/1330806
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VoatsNewfag ago
Thanks for informing us. I personally really don't mind it if voat has a hiccup every once in a while as long as we're not left in the dark, it only makes everyone go crazy with conspiracy theories.
Personally I'm always slightly worried that you might one day abandon voat.
wellendowedduckling ago
@puttitout seconded. We love you putt. I'm so grateful for your commitment to this site and the freedom of speech. I am one of the voaters that never goes to reddit and trusts the community here over the MSM (granted, there is *plenty * of bias here too, but much less propaganda).
I would like to bring up that your core community (someone told me once it was only 700 people?) would probably be happy to pay a monthly subscription to help you with hosting fees, etc. I know I would. This website is very important to me.
Grifter42 ago
All you're doing is shouting approval for the new Spez.
bruddah ago
Yes me too.
I hope he realizes that this thing voat may seem so up front, in his face, and hugely important, yet still just a real, tangible thing, that he can easily abandon. Someone else will probably pick up the slack right? In that way, this web server is a very material, and perishable thing that he is working with.
But to us. To the rest of the United States, and even more so to the rest of the world, it is the very last place where one can hope to find some semblance of the truth. It really is the last remaining bastion right now, and it and (you) are really under direct attack. They are trying to crush your mind, your hope, and your sense of connectedness together. They are trying to isolate you. THAT is the only way they can defeat this worldwide movement for truth. And it has worked, time and time again, for centuries. But we have the internet now. And we have voat. Don't count on the next guy to help carry the load. Please. We need you Putt. We need all of you.
FairDinkum ago
Word
But we have the internet now.
it is the very last place where one can hope to find some semblance of the truth. It really is the last remaining bastion right now, and it and (you) are really under direct attack. .
TPTB NEVER thought that 'computers' would become a 'personal device' and they sure as hell didn't "plan" (and they Plan for *everything, up to 100's of yrs ahead!)
BUT they never saw this "communications revolution" occurring and here we are
So yeah, let's make the most of this wonderful web of humans
great post OP
TallShortSkinnyFatM ago
But he already said he isn't leaving but is trying to set it up to be more self-sufficient.
Be part of the solution. He needs his own life as we all do. We must work together to think critically and try to be self reliant for him and for us. Otherwise, how will we grow? How will he move on to his next project which is probably a heck of a lot more kickass than voat?
BackAsswards ago
I actually enjoyed all the crazy the last outage brought. It gets quite entertaining around here when conspiracy theories start flying.
voltronsdicks ago
It's all the crazy "Jews did everything" followed by "every nigger is evil" and "whites are pure as the driven snow" bullshit that makes ppl think voat is just full of angsty teens.
If you can't be objective, you lose credibility.
WhiteMakesRight ago
Fuck off JIDF.
voltronsdicks ago
sorry i hurt your feelings faggot. truth hurt?
WhiteMakesRight ago
OK, settle down big man.
Jadsticles ago
Yeah, I've got a friend who is on reddit a lot. I exposed him voat and he literally said, "everyone seems to hate Blacks and Jews on there." I really do think that is a problem. Perhaps maybe even a psyop by alphabet organisations...
voltronsdicks ago
There's definitely justified hatred of both groups just as there's also justified hatred of white groups. But to make an entire race guilty while absolving your own race is just fucking childish retardation. No rational person is going to look at such retarded claims and think "well these people have a well thought out opinion on the subject."
It's one thing to point at the crimes and hypocrisy of jews and niggers. It's another thing to claim that all jews and niggers are automatically guilty just because of their genetics. And then to turn around and ignore all the crimes committed by whites makes voat look like a butthurt Nazi sympathizers club.
I like the fact that voat isn't politically correct and is willing to use words like "nigger" to offend the hypocritical and delicate sensibilities of SJW cucks. But I hate the fact that it's also defined by the Master Race tin foil hat conspiracy theorists. They have no fucking clue how credibility is won or lost.
kreepyasskraker ago
Fuck you nigger kike
voltronsdicks ago
Your words hurt. Kinda like your training bra. #TantrumHARDER
kreepyasskraker ago
Kkk
SubspaceDistortion ago
Yes, but the jews are also behind just about everything evil, the niggers are mostly uncivilized savages, and whites are mostly good human beings.
voltronsdicks ago
And the tooth fairy is real.
You fucktards make claims as if just making the statement itself constitutes proof. And you wonder why people parody idiots like you. smh
SubspaceDistortion ago
You can't see the truth for what it is.
FormerBaltimoreRes ago
Bit of a strawman there, I have never seen anyone claim whites are pure, just that they are most successful when their own societies are not undermined by non-compatable races.
For instance, are you comfortable when a Jewish lead admission board at Harvard is over 3000% more likely to admit a jew than a white christian? Are you comfortable with areas of our great cities being ridden with black and latino violent crime? Are you comfortable when every demographic besides white europeans is voting for socialism and expanded government?
The thing is, we are objective on voat. There are almost no forums where you could question even the slightest details of the holocaust. You cannot question why you are being systematically replaced as a people. The fact that you call these discussions "angst" is a reflection of your own indoctrination from decades of (((public schooling))) and a diet of media that influenced your mind from before you could even frame a complete sentence.
You may think of yourself as a "moderate" and above all this stuff we get upset about, but those people from reddit would silence your moderate opinions just as quickly as anyone else from here. Let me tell you that you have a luxury of free speech here because we embrace white european culture and have rejected Jewish rules of debate that are explicitly designed to undermine discourse. So appreciate what you have.
Fred_Leuchter ago
Well said.
voltronsdicks ago
It's a bit of a lie to claim that whites are criticized as often as jews and niggers when you know very well that whites are held up as the Master Race on this site.
This is a laughably retarded claim with no basis in fact.
No. Just like I'm not comfortable with white supremacy idiots pulling statistics out of their assholes as if they've actually studied the issues in depth and are willing to have their views criticized.
Are you comfortable with lying and distorting history to fit your "whites are better than every other race" bullshit narrative?
No.
Are you comfortable absolving the white race of their much more damaging and far reaching financial crimes that cripple societies? Are you comfortable with the abundance of white serial killers and white school shooters? Are you comfortable with whites being in charge while being too childish to be held accountable to their position of authority?
No.
Are you comfortable with whites telling lies like the ones above to absolve themselves of their own crimes against mankind?
This statement alone proves you're a lying piece of shit to anyone who has been paying attention to your so-called objectivity.
Reminds me of the 2 "objective" replies I just got from your fellow "objective" white power faggots:
Yep. Sure sounds like objective rocket scientists on here.
Even the faggots on here practice censorship. You make it sound like reddit is the only intellectually frightened cuckfest in town. You're in just as much of an insulated bubble on voat as the faggots on reddit.
The fact that you're a fucking moron referring to white supremacy propaganda as "discussions" proves you're no better than the hypocrites you're railing against. Your laughable excuse for an education deludes you into believing that making a retarded claim constitutes an intellectual discussion.
I think of myself as a human being with a brain who desires to know the truth. You can call that moderate if you want. I call it common sense.
I'm not above getting upset about niggers being violent or jews slimy fucks or wetbacks coming here illegally. But I'm not going to throw objectivity out the window to suit some equally retarded white power agenda being perpetuated by undisciplined cucks who can't even tell the difference between race and culture and are unable to handle criticism of their views without menstruating.
You make it sound like I support the faggot SJW censorship occurring on reddit.
You're a fucking idiot if you think there's such a thing as free speech. You FIRST have to be telling the truth before you experience censorship, which is why you're in no danger of being censored.
Oh you mean that "fuck you nigger kike" discourse? You lying piece of shit.
How about fuck you, you lying nigger.
FormerBaltimoreRes ago
Your post history is full of posts like these where you attempt to throw around a bunch of swear words and try to add divisiveness to the conversation. Whether you are a troll or attempting to shill I can't tell, but it doesn't matter either. You do not write like an educated white European.
If anyone is reading this chain, please take note of the manner in which voltronsdicks writes. There are a few troll tactics at play, first is they will ask you to "source" everything you say, even if it is easy to reference. It's an attempt to waste your time so do not fall for it. Second, they will attempt to cuss and swear and throw pejoratives around liberally. This takes what should be a civil discussion and attempts to render it into a shouting match. Lastly in an attempt to blend in they will use words like nigger and kike. They never use the words correctly, they just pepper them in. It's pretty obvious from this particular users post history this is a common theme.
You can also tell when these posters are using multiple accounts, this poster included, I noticed how my post went from 16-0 to 16-3 within a course of a few minutes. So at the minimum we are dealing with three alternate accounts.
voltronsdicks ago
Your fucking stupidity is painful to read.
captainstrange ago
voltron, I know you're a kvetching jew, but you should come over to the side of the whites. We need more ruthless people.
Jewish women are fugly as fuck. And the entire culture and religion is designed around worship of being cuckolded by your mother. As pissed off as this statement will make you, you know what I'm saying is true.
Join the white european master race, whites are as pure as the driven snow.
FormerBaltimoreRes ago
Your posts with their constant swearing and vulgarity are a clear reflection that you have personal issues you are struggling with. You are having trouble in life, I understand that. But all this "trolling" is not going to help you. Get to the gym, study harder and eat healthier. You'll thank yourself in two years.
NoRoyalty ago
Good on you. I don't allow upvote count to inhibit my speech either.
lamplight ago
I think we have developed our own culture here. No one knows who you are or what race you are. We are all equal and can share what we find with others who are interested.
Crensch ago
What happens when being objective leads you to those conclusions?
voltronsdicks ago
You'd actually have to prove you were objective before you could make that claim. And since you guys obviously haven't been anywhere near objective, it's laughable to hold such a fragile conclusion.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
FBI CRIME STATISTICS
No people have plenty of objectivity here, you just personally disagree with the facts so you pretend they don't exist.
voltronsdicks ago
No you're just too fucking stupid to even grasp the nature of the contention. You just shout out a phrase as if that's an argument when you don't even know what's being argued. That's exactly how DUMB you are.
lanre ago
You don't have to talk about it every minute of every waking day. For example, if you're 60 years old and it'll take another 30 years to fix the problem then maybe you just wanna forget about it for awhile sometimes. People can't handle outrage nonstop and it just makes you pessimistic.
Gorillion ago
We don't have 30 years. We very likely don't have 3 years. Shit is happening now.
Crensch ago
You're making a completely new argument here.
The previous one was about our normal rhetoric being repulsive to others, and how (somehow) using that rhetoric is not being objective. So I'm not really sure why you're acting as if this comment is a continuation of either point.
As for the constant talk about it, the price of freedom is eternal vigilance, not, "Eh, I need a break, so the rest of you stop talking about it now."
One of the only places on the net to discuss such things and faggots like you have to act like Jews and try to shut us up about it. NOT addressing the issue constantly, and pressing the issue constantly, is what led us to this sorry state of affairs.
Do you know who DIDN'T let up? (((Them))). Constantly, constantly whittling away at us. Never stopping to take a breath.
THEY have won up to now, and you want us to take a break?
Fuck you.
Alpha_Voat_Protecter ago
As someone who originally came here due to remembering an old Jewish tale that was popular on Reddit (about "Stop the government from silencing all of the minority groups, or one day you'll be the minority group they silence") and didn't even look into all of the (((coincidences))) for the first year or so (give or take a few months) after coming here:
Fuck anyone who tries to act like the SJWs and the Marxists by silencing any discussion here. If you don't like what people are saying, JOIN THE CONVERSATION AND USE A COMBINATION OF FACTS AND LOGIC TO MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE A DUMBASS!! If you still can't do that, then it's time for you to stop and either re-think your strategy or re-examine your beliefs and biases.
Bananazz ago
one thing is for sure... the propaganda is relentless and the lies are everywhere.
TallShortSkinnyFatM ago
I would like to second this "fuck you"!
Feldorai ago
Put is gone for a day
Voat: " OMG IT'S THE APOCALYPSE, THE RAPTURE IS HAPPENING!"
WeekendBaker ago
For us old timers, more like “aaaaaand it’s either another Reddit sub ban, or the servers on fire again. Oh well, time to get some groceries.”
deanna ago
preview voat was down that was a little disappointing. I ended up going to imgur and the second picture I looked at was a commercial for water or weights or something I don't even know. so I did the same thing I went shopping and got some nice kale.
ZX4jBXu ago
Rapture with no Jesus is just a bad day lol
PsychoDesign ago
Rapture itself is an Apocalypse, but Jesus, Jesus is on whole different level.
Rawrination ago
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