Voat Survives Major Surgery (announcements)

submitted ago by PuttItOut

Well folks, it’s done.

The biggest update in Voat’s history has just taken place.

If we did it right you will notice absolutely nothing, and this is actually a good thing.

Some Additional Info

For those that are curious, Voat has just replaced its original runtime engine with a more dynamic and flexible infrastructure that will be necessary for expanding in the future.

Everything at Voat is now organized using Sets (a logical grouping of subverses). Sets, while rather simple in their concept, will allow Voat to introduce unique concepts in the near future, and thus we had to really invest in converting Voat over to this structure. We fully committed to this direction.

You will now notice that your subscriptions are organized into a Set called Front. Your blocked subverses are also organized into a Set, a set called Blocked. You can access your Sets by entering your profile and clicking on the Sets tab.

Please note that because of the size of this update (it touched nearly all code) we have disabled creating user sets until we can spend a bit of time monitoring the set code and are able to determine it is functioning as expected.

Testers

I want to personally thank the many users who reached out and helped test the preview version of this release. No one but people familiar with software can truly understand how intimidating large updates can be. You guys found countless issues that we would have never discovered before going live. I can’t thank you enough for breaking things!

To honor your willingness to contribute and help Voat, I have badged all the users who I sent an invite to.

Here is to the future Voat! Stay tuned.

Please report any issues to v/voatdev

Canary

https://voat.co/v/announcements/1330806

binrobinro ago

Nice work, gang. I didn't notice a thing.

charmeuse ago

I am fairly new to voat, and an older person, and I can't understand the up and downvoting thing...how do I up or downvote something? Please help old idiot here...thank you...

F_YO_ECHO_CHAMBER ago

When are we getting a way to impeach mods who overstep their power?

Bheda ago

Major milestone for a social link aggregator. Very nice to see you guys are so involved in the future of Voat. Cheers.

paigeparker318 ago

Good news for voat. Upgrading website give a lot of benefits against competitors. Keep it up.

rottenwheel ago

@PuttItOut - I want to say thank you for everything. Voat is such a great community-driven place on the Internet. Hopefully it doesn't end up as its ancestor, rather keeps innovating and cutting the edge.

Something that drives me crazy is that there is no a FLOSS Voat reader for Android. Can you look at the possibility of either asking for developers to get coding one true FLOSS reader for Android or propose the idea within the ToDo list? Out of the two or three Voat readers on Android, I don't like none of them. If we brag about how free and safe our community is, how come we don't have a stable FLOSS reader?

ajnadriaan ago

Why would anyone downvoat PuttItOut's message?

ajnadriaan ago

Fake news?!

8239852? ago

Will set/999 ever make a come back?

datjedi ago

Hurray! 🙌

Disappointed ago

Some good hidden unannounced additions here as well.

suckcoke ago

@PuttItOut, thank you for re-alphabetizing the subs.

Antiseed117 ago

Sounds like Voat got the Wolverine upgrade.

fabulousalpaca ago

Thank you for improving and working on voat

thrus ago

It paves the way for you to have groups of subs that you set up, so you could have a work set that is all safe for viewing at work and a NSFW set for when you get home, one of politics so you can get that fix when you want it without other things in it, and jokes for jokes and dinofacts and funny. Basically the end result allows for far more breakdown for you then just subscribed, other, and blocked.

Tackleb0x ago

Techreviewinsider ago

voat mostly user friendly

zxcvbnmfreak714 ago

always used reddit just found voat viareddit sbreddit chrome os (it appears that subvoat? died when the subbreddit for chrome os was made but, i think i will use voat just as often if not more for my coding and technology interests

also could someone tell me exatly what the difference is and why seperate website, (im not an idiot i can already tell for the most part, and I apologize for the quick, grammar lackin/ style type again someone let me know if this is not the norm. or something like that on voat

Holonomic ago

Good job, I'm happy everything went well. I would have helped if I had the expertise to do so, but kudos to those that did help out!

squataclops ago

Good work as always!

Secus ago

Canary was updated 10 hours ago.

That means something happened?

digitalentity1497 ago

That means Sane thinks your a shill.

Howie ago

Here's the new admin control panel post-op. I for one think the new Voat is stunning and brave.

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/embed/public/2016/05/12/caitlyn-jenner-back-bruce.jpg

Hell ago

potato goes in hole. still potato..........................................

Hell ago

Well done good sir!

Adminstrater ago

Meh, from my perspective I didn't even notice. Who's to say you've done anything at all?

AOU ago

I'm still waiting for my Bitcoin donation badge. ^_~

antiliberalsociety ago

We are much obliged. Thanks for your dedication & hard work. Without this place we would be homeless in the world of free speech.

Eastupward ago

Well goats, are we tired of winning yet?

Ina_Pickle ago

To be honest, this one felt like losing. The only change I noticed is that my subscription is list is out of order.

8226600? ago

Rad space goat, goat!

Donbuster ago

Fuck, I can't compete with that.

smackdownfletch ago

Thank you for all of your hard work!!!

8225928? ago

Voting is still really slow.

suckcoke ago

@PuttItOut, why are my subversives no longer alphabetized?

Ina_Pickle ago

Me too.

crazy_eyes ago

I came here to ask this.

flyawayhigh ago

It's up! OMG, it's up!!! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! :D

MUNCHIES!

Cacciaguida ago

8225792? ago

I never get invited to anything :-(

Diogenes_The_Cynic ago

I have a subverse v/staticwebpages, and it could become a part of a ring of subverses, like v/deadformats but I want to know if they would be smashed together without my knowledge.

SocialJusticePanda ago

Can I still say #$%@#?

semens ago

If this is a huge update then why should we not be informed what was changed?

Salicaz ago

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how far Voat has come as a free speech platform despite all the efforts of those who would take it from you. I thank you both Putt and Atko before him for giving me this place to breath.

alternaterightality ago

Unlike Bill Paxton.

AlwaysInService ago

Too soon

CANCEL-CAT-FACTS ago

That's exactly what a retard would say.

Wedhro ago

When a daddy potato and a mommy potato love each other very much...

heretolearn ago

thanks for keeping this place going.

go1dfish ago

Sounds awesome, Love the idea of using generic structures in powerful ways like this.

oneposteach ago

Make sure to look at boobs or wieners as you deserve it.

oneposteach ago

you still have a dad

smokratez ago

I wouldn't know. That sub has been on my block list for half a year at least.

Riva ago

You guys are awesome. Next time I'll be a beta tester.

pacman2000 ago

Just curious, will this update eventually lead to being able to access pages past page 19?

CrudOMatic ago 

https://voat.co/v/all/new?page=20

You could do a DDoS on the database server by having multiple people set the page number in the above url to a ridiculously high number, and then keep refreshing. That would make the DB dish out all records for what you were requesting, no matter how many. Again, and again, and again... and I'm imagining that these requested records are kept on the webserver in memory as a view as well - so then that would chew up server memory as well.

I don't understand why, instead of capping it, you do a rough count, and if the number*20 is too big, then go with the count instead? You could even cache the count so it doesn't have to be done every single time.

LostandFound ago

Hail Putt!

Broc_Lia ago

Congratulations!

middle_path ago

It's a larger category for subverses to fit Into. So a hobbies set could include v/sewing, v/JustGrowIt, and v/cooking.

At least that's my understanding.

parnellsUprising ago

great job, there are a great many goats bleating some shit

frankenmine ago

I just noticed tentacles growing out of my testicles. Is this expected behavior. Please respond.

mamwad ago

That's normal

PuttItOut ago

You might need surgery too.

Grifter42 ago

What do you say to SaneGoat's claims that you've been compromised by ShareBlue and Correct the Record?

Rotteuxx ago

Your subscriptions in different folders for "themed set" front pages, retard.

VRX ago

Unlike Bill

JoeKerr ago

ohhhh, too soon. (perfect joke)

oiseaulibre ago

like im retarded

We all know you're actually retarded, Mighty.

can you explain it to me because im retarded

FTFY

mamwad ago

So is voat still the same gender or did you give it a sex change?

CANCEL-CAT-FACTS ago

voat will always be gay for you.

VouvrayCabernet ago

can i be gay for voat?

CANCEL-CAT-FACTS ago

OP is always a faggot. That is why we wear fancy pants.

OpusMioda ago

Cool story, PuttitIn!

draegspir ago

Awesome, thanks for the great work!

Donbuster ago

Voat right now

Devious1 ago

U need an illegal alien shaggin that, then it would be perfect. No escaping - maybe it should. Also come from Sweden.

Flaaffy ago

Now it just needs some jet packs.

kneo24 ago

And Shirtguns! And cornmanders! We aren't talking about Natural Selection are we?

guinness2 ago

Congratulations on the awesome update and thank you!

MrPim ago

Very nice

NeedleStack ago

(Sets) will allow Voat to introduce unique concepts in the near future

I have no idea what this means. Would someone please explain?

Will the "more dynamic and flexible infrastructure" allow for us to be able to see posts that go back past 19 pages any time soon? All/New still only goes back to page 19

https://voat.co/v/all/new?page=20

Edit: I think the last time this was addressed it had to do with a server bandwidth issue. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. If things have been thus enhanced, surely now there is increased bandwidth?

Thanks!

CrudOMatic ago

You could do a DDoS on the database server by having multiple people set the page number to a ridiculously high number and then keep refreshing. That would make the DB dish out all records for what you were requesting, no matter how many. Again, and again, and again... and I'm imagining that these requested records are kept on the webserver in memory as a view as well? So then that would chew up server memory as well.

I don't understand why, instead of capping it, you do a rough count, and if the number*20 is too big, then go with the count instead? You could even cache the count so it doesn't have to be done every single time.

thrus ago

I am assuming and I copied this from another spot here that I posted it:

It paves the way for you to have groups of subs that you set up, so you could have a work set that is all safe for viewing at work and a NSFW set for when you get home, one of politics so you can get that fix when you want it without other things in it, and jokes for jokes and dinofacts and funny. Basically the end result allows for far more breakdown for you then just subscribed, other, and blocked.

Ina_Pickle ago

It means your account just got gang raped.

smokratez ago

I recently found out you can't see deleted comments older than a month back either. Do those take up that much server space, that they have to be deleted?

NeedleStack ago

I'm not sure what you mean. Comments that users had deleted of theirs a while ago? We wouldn't be able to see them anyway, no?

smokratez ago

As a mod, when you delete users comments. You can't see them after a while.

NeedleStack ago

I see! Yeah that is weird.

Owlchemy ago

Agree. I'm not grasping this 'sets' thing, either. Not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at, or how this helps me. Maybe it's because I'm subscribed to so many subs.

CrudOMatic ago

You remember multi-reddits from reddit? That's what sets are.

Owlchemy ago

No, was never a Redditor, except for like a two week drive-by. I'm just not seeing how this works ... when I pull up sets in my profile, all I get is a Front list of all my subs ... which does me nothing. And I've seen no way to subscribe to anything different.

HACKhalo2 ago

Because User defined sets are disabled until the code works as expected. So right now, all you have is the Front List (which is your front page) and your Blocked List (which is your blocked subverses). In the future, when the set code is unlocked for User defined Lists, you'll be able to group subverses into personal Lists (like a Weed List for v/trees and v/stoners) and will be able to see different frontpages based on your currently active List

Owlchemy ago

Fantastic, now it makes perfect sense. I guess my practically non-existent experience with Reddit was my problem here - LOL. Seriously appreciate the info. Thanks!

SaneGoatiSwear2 ago

silly ex-batgirlgoat.

you aren't allowed to know if you're not in the secret sjw/srs cabal.

they are now doing stuff to voat.

you don't get to know.

you don't get your say.

at all.

we're lucky if they tell us in advance at all.

it's.

conde nast.

i swear.

yes, the issue you bring up is an important one.

the very nature of how users could interact with the content we create was altered.

and we didn't get a say.

it just happened.

now posts are IP logged, afaik, not just votes.

no one got a say.

the list goes on

and does @adolf_puttler respond? of course not.

Adolf_Puttler ago

Hmm? Oh yes, hi, well, no, we dictators dont tell our pleebs anything. This is all smoke and mirrors to cover up major changes the new owners have planned to incorporate for a long time.....

freddymercury ago

Wait, did Condé Nast buy voat , because eve since the whole GNAA extravaganza on slashdot I have not been in their good graces

NeedleStack ago

I'm holding out faith that my question will be answered. The faith being based on that I know people are busy attending to other aspects of the site however this question has been asked by other people a few times before. I am unashamedly being a nudge regarding this.

I think the last time this was addressed it had to do with a server bandwidth issue. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. If things have been so enhanced as Putt said, surely now there is increased bandwidth?

NeedleStack ago

@PuttItOut

Would you please update us on the status of seeing posts past page 19? Like I wrote in this earlier comment, we were told that the issue had to do with server bandwidth. Do you have a timeline you could share as to when it's resolved? Thank you.

SaneGoatiSwear2 ago

those questions answered, yet, fucker?

NeedleStack ago

Oh shit, I forgot. Will remind. Fucker.

SaneGoatiSwear2 ago

they haven't been answered. because they won't be.

magic bans.

i fuckign told you, and you pussied out for dogs.

you're part of why these fuckers get away with reking site after site.

CANCEL-CAT-FACTS ago

Thank you for constantly and consistently improving voat.

Shadow_Death ago

I agree. After seeing reddit turn into a political agenda machine this has seen more and more of my attention lately. I honestly love that Voat is almost instant to load now days. :D

BRAlNlAC ago

For real. Every time I land on Reddit not logged in I'm reminded of how biased and fucked up it is. Blatant vote manipulation on their /r/popular. They must be getting paid well by ShareBlue et. al. because I gotta believe that they would be better off in terms of mass market appeal with a front page devoid of slanted news stories. Really makes me think that Reddit is completely a propaganda tool/psyop.

CANCEL-CAT-FACTS ago

We are getting the band back together. This is the new front page of the internet.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

who is the we of which puttler speaks?

fuzzywords (confirmed criminal shill against free speech) and heygeorge (confirmed criminal shill against free speech) confirmed cancer coding(((testing))) voat.

now that i have 27 downvoats, let's remind everyone

voat is run by shills!

here's the first

kevdude is a shill, confirmed!

edit: lol EVERYSINGLE RESPONSE IS FROM A SHILL!!!

SaneGoatiSwear10 ago

Shill confirmed.

DoomMantia ago

Every account on Voat is a shill except you.

Hell ago

You really need to see someone about your mental disorder. Like now.

guinness2 ago

who is the we of which puttler speaks?

Just how useless are you?

Putt is clearly referring to his efforts and the efforts of the testing team and anyone else who may have helped him with suggestions or code changes.

It's as if you can't even be trusted to exercise basic reading comprehension without fucking it up.

Crazyjoe33 ago

Of course. Now shut the fuck up, shill, or you'll get called shill, shill.

jsac ago

have another downvoat faggot.

Dumb_Comment_Bot ago

Anyone else always click on this guys profile and watch his CCP and SCP plummet slowly after all his bots got banned?

MaunaLoona ago

Are you sure he isn't a bot himself? It's not hard for a bot to call everyone a shill.

ExpertShitposter ago

Yeah, its like a high score, but going backwards. Or like watching red eat the green on Syria live maps.

jsac ago

Constantly... I bank downvoats just for him ;)

AlwaysInService ago

Maybe about people who tested the update? How about that?

Adolf_Puttler ago

YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO ASK SUCH QUESTIONS OF US LORDS AND DICTATORS!!! Zuckerburg would rape your entire family for such an afront!

VouvrayCabernet ago

i knew zuckerberg looked like a predator but

smokratez ago

Are you going to use this to keep hate subs off the front page?

guinness2 ago

What do you consider to be hate subs?

I only ask because some people consider criticisms of Islam to be hateful whereas other civilized people who respect the spirit of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights consider it their moral duty.

Similarly, is it "hateful" to be honest about the national disgrace which is the African American culture of stealing, raping and murder?

SaneGoatiSwear2 ago

unique concepts:

= more greyboxing, greybanning, and censorship.

thanks for the invite. /s. sjw shill invite only apparently.

issue reported already to voatdev. no response from you, of course.

bollocks to all of this.

aaand this and the last code update are STILL not put into github.

you still haven't banned any of the downvoat brigaders who are "vote manipulating" nor the upvoat brigaders of posts, the accounts used to brigade posts for money (didn't you see that website selling votes for money??)....

you still haven't addressed users' requests for clarification on these greybans. haven't opened community discussion on a whole range of topics that need to be discussed, and have continued to do things to voat without our knowledge/consent.

you won't tell us how long IPs are stored, if posts are now IP logged, nor even given us anything resembling a transparency report nor traffic report.

Donbuster ago

Sane, if you honestly think you can do better, create a site that's more open, more pro speech, and more transparent than voat, go ahead and do it. Build the site of your dreams. I, and many others, i'm sure, will be happy to support your endeavor with our eyeballs, in the same way we support voat, but understand that Putt and Atko are only two people, and can only do so much, plus they have day jobs.

guinness2 ago

Did you see what Sane did to /v/TIL - he ruined it with cancer-mod level censorship, by banning anyone who hurt his feelings and spamming it with attacks against PuttItOut. I resent him for that because I enjoyed TIL until Sane used it as a glory-hole and raped free speech to death.

Donbuster ago

I was one of the ones banned, I know what he did

LORD_SPARTACUS_00094 ago

create a site

working on it

happy to support your endeavor

you mean, spit on it and say "no, puttitout number 1 the best la la la"

putt and atko are only two people

then why not elect some trusted people to do their work huh? they just want control control control

smokratez ago

Would you send me an invite when it's done?

LORD_SPARTACUS_00094 ago

https://26r2ozk7zuh4nvw7.onion.cab/

tor hidden service, if you use tor drop the .cab

theres no content right now since i still need to brush up some small issues

smokratez ago

Neat. Let me know if I can do anything to help. I presume you already know I am not a code monkey however.

SaneGoatiSwear2 ago

lol silly shilly.

atko quit!

this isn't about me, silly shilly!

Donbuster ago

He is still involved with the site, just not nearly as much as he was

Tacklebox ago

Keep up the good work. Very proud of this site, you guys have been making all the right moves.

middle_path ago

Wonderful work, putt. I am so glad to see voat becoming more and more its own thing.

Germ22 ago

Amazing, i have not noticed anything until i went into my profile looking around.
And it looks very organised in there. i like what you guys have done.

RowdyBusch ago

Good job. Carry on.