The reason given was "Under the Acceptable Use Policy, PayPal may not be used to send or receive payments for certain sexually oriented materials or services or for items that could be considered obscene". This is wrong/false on so many levels. We used PayPal only as a means to receive voluntary donations from people who wanted to support further development of Voat and to help pay for our hosting fees. This is beyond crazy.
According to PayPal User Agreement, our funds can be kept by PayPal for 180 days. I requested further clarification from PayPal, but I would like to advise everyone who planned to donate to Voat - to NOT do so via PayPal.
Honestly, I don't know what I expected when I trusted PayPal with our donation money. I apologize to everyone who donated to us through PayPal and I will badge everyone who did so even if the funds are never released by PayPal.
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Guerilla ago
Well, that was expected. Paypal is a fucking terrible corporation and people should REALLY stop trusting these fucking blackmailers. How many people must these fucks screw before the public stops trusting them with their money?
edit: It seems Google Wallet is just as terrible, so the only solution for an easy to pay system is a build in site pay feature which imo should be a priority now if we want voat to survive. Unless there are other suggestions.
edit2: If you don't want to close your paypal account because you might need it in the future, which is understandable given its popularity, I urge everyone to empty their paypal accounts completely and only use it for direct transactions with their CC. Not just because you're boycotting but to protect your money from these thieving fucks (for example...). Also, if you're buying something from another country make sure to change the settings to stop paypal from converting the currency for you (the setting is in tiny fond during the transaction) because paypal's currency exchange rates are obscenely expensive. It's just another way for paypal to rip off their customers and it's actually an opt-out system which is enraging. And DO NOT "upgrade" your account unless you really need that, iirc there are a couple of scams there too.
Fact_Checking_Alien ago
It may be advisable to begin investing in to any service which agrees solidly with freedom of expression, and supports them likewise. Currently it would appear the best solution is Bitcoin, which is rather ironic because they're pushing an increasing number of persons into its use through censorship. In other words, ironic because they're killing themselves with their ideological rulings.
Perhaps the best thing I can say about Voat and people who've been attracted by it: We don't want your god-damn ideology. We want your service. Let us decide what we want to say with it. If there are any other services on the internet who sides by this, though admitting restrictions forced by law, I would fully support their using Voat to advertise themselves.
Edit: If anyone knows of any such service fitting this description, please respond with it. Maybe we can make a compilation and see where we go from there.
sniper98g ago
Still Bitcoin, but Circle makes bitcoin really easy to send.
SamHH ago
What's best between Circle and Coinbase or alternatives? I haven't followed Bitcoin for around a year and a half now and all this stuff is new to me.
toddgak ago
itbit is a quite new and fully insured and licensed as a bank in the States. There are many other options available to dabble in it.
Pyramidion ago
They're more or less the same. I prefer Coinbase because of their "vault". But if you're not keeping large amounts of BTC with them (and you shouldn't be -- check out something Trezor), you could go with either one. Try downloading their apps and see which one you like most.