In 4chan-ish speak (or whatever)
Be me
Working. Look at clock, damn gotta run
Get up, about to leave, forgot I have to run vote manipulation bans
It's fine, they are ready to run, won't take long
Get first batch setup, double check it, looks good, execute the code
Get second batch setup, double check it, wait, a parameter is off
Think to myself, hmmmm, what was that parameter set to in the first batch?
Go look at the first batch again, parameter is wrong, interesting.
I wonder what that did.
Go look, yeah, banned a bunch of people I shouldn't have.
I'm going to be so late now.
No code to unban people, have to write it real quick.
15 minutes later, ready to go, execute code, great, everyone was unbanned. Feel like superman.
Finish rest of bans
Leave 45 minutes after I should have
Sometime later, check Voat on phone, make sure it's not down (you know, we have a thing with that).
Have 20 triilion unread messages. Oh no. What now.
Voat is going full rage goat about bans.
Try to answer as many messages as possible. It's a warzone. Usually is after every round though, so expected
Check Voat again later, saw ping in a random submission
It said a long time goat was banned. That's weird.
Started thinking how did that goat get banned?
Why would they be farming? They can't be downvoting can they?
Recall that Dan guy got banned on Reddit for up farming. Definitely possible.
Maybe power users are into that kind of thing?
Think to myself, Voat is weird.
Sometime later, still curious, log on computer, bring up ban data
Wait a second, that goat was in batch 1
I'll fix that. Fixed.
Look over it once again, find two more
Fix them.
Check a few users who've messaged. They still got served the ban hammer. Lol a little
Think we are good now.
Still thinking about what the goats said in the warzone thread
One user said we should have an appeal process
Process we use now is old as hell
Coded to kill farms with no mercy
Written for survival during the sanegoat days
That was years ago. Reminisce what is was like for a minute. Damn I'm getting old.
Yeah, maybe we should update this
So, that was how the bans went down from my side. Thought it was entertaining enough to break the ice for what follows:
I can't allow manipulation, in any way. If the votes aren't true, I can't put my name on it. Manipulation of votes was why I left Reddit in the first place. I take it seriously. I also need to define what we look for without giving away our playbook (I have to think about this a bit).
I'll double check vote manipulation bans, that is totally reasonable. I hate banning people for manipulation, so if a ban wasn't right, I'll fix it.
Conclusion:
We are going to have to add an appeal process for vote manipulation.
You guys have better ideas anyways, so how should we do this? What should the process be?
Let's just design it from scratch. And while we are at it… should subverse bans be appealable? Do we need to write new code for this?
Suppose we can just use PMs though.
Let's make it better.
Someone told me Voat loves stickies.
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MrPim ago
And personally my problem is that I was accused of vote manipulation when in my opinion that just is not true. I do not use alts, I do not engage in organized brigades, I do not Voat from a users comment page. My voating is done as a single user in the forums and I don't use alt accts to increase my numbers. If I have a hard on for a particular user and I DV the shit out of them that isn't vote manipulation. If I DV every single thing Aged posts that isn't manipulation, I just hate pedos. I also UV almost everything from @Empress and a lot from TWs, am I manipulating that? If so, what are the thresholds for this activity?
The accusation of Voat manipulation is taken seriously here and people automatically jump to AltFarmer and I am not that. My activity logs are welcome to be published.
Womb_Raider ago
Maybe don't upvote based on user, but based on merit of submission? There's an idear.
sdfgsdf232 ago
womb, kevdude has access to putts account. this is all him. Think man.... the last time putt made 3 stickies at 8am CST, he is euro
-cheese IF
hope all is well with you, but voat is now dead
Womb_Raider ago
Voat died a long time ago. I don't know why I continue to stare at the corpse. Your time zone point is interesting, but it's around 2-5pm across Europe right now, so it's not necessarily a valid point. I applaud your thinking though.
And as far as you're concerned: you do the same things they do. you abuse VPN/sockpuppet accounts and spam your heart out. You devise personalities that are competent and utterly retarded a la beatlejuice. Don't think you have my respect. You ought to be better.
I am doing well, thank you. Spend less time on the internet and you will do well too.
sdfgsdf232 ago
its kevdude man, I know this in my heart. putt did not write those.
no womb, I only did it to offset downvoat brigades on myself and others. I may have boosted a song like three time in drunken fun. thats the extent. and may have boosted account to 100 cause after 4+ years here, the restrictions are pointless to me.
Did you know magically gained dial over a thousand ccp while banned.... i am
Also, I alway only resetted there brigades, its is easy for me to tell between organic and non, you are listening to lies
Womb_Raider ago
I don't feel that what you do is okay. Fighting fire with fire is not going to put out a flame. Only the administrator can truly do anything, and if they choose to do nothing, the site is of no value. At the end of the day that's how it is.
jkasdfhk7732 ago
they were not, and I reacted. Dial would not have existed.... And the amount of people I tried to and verses from downvoated brigades was justified.
If "organic" I left it alone.
know I only reset THAT is the difference... I just took off their downvoats
do you think I enjoyed doing it, no.
you could see the habits, -3 -3 -3 -3 -3 -3 then they would run out of downvoats.... dial magically gains over a thousand ccp over the past few days... amazing. I think either putt bann retro votes, or they are removinging them in a hurry.
But they are retarded because I guarantee there is a log. I would tell putt continually .... help me out. He laughed and mocked me when he banned dial @puttitout
then goes on to say im a "asset"
im starting to rant
im not wrong womb, lets put our past aside. I'd still like to keep in touch with ya. you're a good guy.
-dial
(hit 10 comments) aint that funny who they restrict users that have been actively here for 4+ years