Read CONTEXT at end of post
Currently Voat’s "Private" subverse feature is primarily used to allow subs to disassociate their posts from v/all, all content is still public in every sense other than this. This isn’t really private, it’s more like a hidden setting.
For internal reasons Voat needs to implement a private subverse feature in which only approved people have access to the subverse content (pro tip: a lot of features we work on and end up offering were/are primarily developed for internal reasons like the upcoming Vote and Packages features).
Before we start any work on this feature, I want to discuss how to develop this feature and get your feedback and concerns.
As I see it, we have the classic concept of Private in which only approved people (members) can access subverse content. The only question is one of implementation: what controls access to subverse: subscriptions or moderator privileges? If we use subscriptions, we will have to modify the process so that moderators can approve a subscription request, otherwise the moderator feature would suffice. If we use a moderator approach, other users can see who is part of the private subverse which is good for transparency. Pros/cons to both approaches.
Some concerns I see:
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Should we have different "Private" settings like a ReadOnly
differentiation so that a subverse can choose to display content to non-members but not allow non-members to submit posts/comments i.e. a read only approach?
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What if a subverse is private and a new subscriber is added, should this new member have full access to subverse content or should all content submitted before they were added be inaccessible to them? In other words, only content submitted after a user became a member is visible to them. This concern is to allow existing members to be reassured their prior content is protected.
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Should private subverse content show up in front-page/sets or should the subverse content only be accessible via navigating to the subverse itself?
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Should pings be dropped when the target user isn’t a member?
There are probably other considerations I haven’t thought about, so let me know your thoughts.
CONTEXT
As with any change, we are all looking at the potential for abuse (which I see), so I want to give everyone a context of where this comes from so you can see the intentions involved with the thought.
I want to setup a corporate Voat instance for business related concerns that will be accessible by all Voat employees and members of the community that are involved with the operations of Voat (this is called dogfooding in the software world). In this instance I'd like to have a subverse about Finances that is restricted to only company executives, as well as a Legal subverse accessible to legal council, etc.
In these scenarios, private subverses are needed as a Voat developer or community manager wouldn't need access to this "sensitive" content.
I think it's important to note where this idea stems from and that this idea was never one of ill intention (i.e. This is the end of Voat!). This is why I mentioned "internal" above.
As always, we are just getting feedback here, let's try to look for solutions to the concerns rather than throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Edit
Consensus is in: Voat loves this idea... Pause... Pause... Not. ;)
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truthwoke33 ago
What are your plans to mitigate user abuse e.g. creating a secret CP sub or a harassment sub?
PuttItOut ago
This is a very good point. Every feature we dev has a negative side to it, and what you mention is one.
Maybe some way to counter/offset this perhaps?
truthwoke33 ago
And as expected, you give non answers to softball questions.
Why are you using resources on a feature that nobody requested? How does this benefit users?
fuckmyreddit ago
It looks like our angel wants to make Voat into his own private heaven. I dont like Secret Societies or Honeypots. My advice to our angel is to keep the formula that works. Unless you're trying to clean this house up and flip it immediately, you're on the wrong path, Angel.
PuttItOut ago
I think everyone agrees that a "clean up" isn't in the works, nor would it work in the first place.
We have no intention of compromising on Free Speech, for better or worse.
awwisnotafarmpromise ago
You'd have to first have Free Speech in order to compromise it.
Voat doesn't have that, never did, never will apparently.
Buy hey, you duped a lot of morons into thinking there is, good skill with that.
Onefootwonder ago
What restrictions do we have on our speech? Other than "don't break the fucking law" considering that would get us shut down. Unless that's what you want.... Rabbi?
awwisnotafarmpromise ago
Voat is rigged to be an echo chamber. Always was, and it has only gotten worse. A handful of alts, like crenchdude, is all it takes to censor another user via the rigged voating system.
Onefootwonder ago
Would you rather there were no voting system in place for posts and comments? Or is there a different solution?
awwisnotafarmpromise ago
The voating system is garbage. It adds nothing but censorship.
Onefootwonder ago
Just a suggestion, but have you tried staying on the anonymous Voat subs? Some don't have usernames or active voting systems for comments. Might suit your needs a little better.
awwisnotafarmpromise ago
reddit censorship faggot confirmed.
LMAO.
Onefootwonder ago
Coming from the guy who is obviously butthurt about his comments being downvoted and minimized. Yep, I'm definitely the faggot here.......
Stop associating your personal value with a comment scoring system. Real men don't evaluate themselves based around likes and dislikes on social media. Ignore your comment score history. It means nothing.
awwisnotafarmpromise ago
I don't give a fuck if you like what I say or not.
But stop lying about voat being 'free speech', it is not and that make you a lying piece of shit.
Onefootwonder ago
You care so much that you think that downvotes equal censorship. Maybe you just don't know the meaning of the word. Either way, I'm leaning more towards you being a kike shill though.
awwisnotafarmpromise ago
They do you retarded fuckwit. As I explained above.
Unfortunately your mother fucked too many niggers when you were in the womb, and your brain is too damaged to understand the simplest things now.
Onefootwonder ago
I kind of feel bad for how hard you have to try to talk shit. I also feel bad for you for thinking someone not liking your words is equal to censorship. I mean this sincerely: take an online Asperger's test. It's not a guaranteed diagnosis, but it might help you figure yourself out a bit. Good luck, sport.