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showbobandvagene ago

I don't know if i like it. What do we stand to gain from these changes?

Seems to me it will breed a lot of fuckery and infighting.

Though, my mind isnt made up yet, im going wait and to check out the comments and see if anyone comes up with some positives that i haven't thought of...

Crensch ago

I'm on the other end, I'd love to see some negatives. Putt would like to implement this oh, and the only complaint I've seen is completely dispelled by the fact that private messages already exist.

Vindicator ago

Here's one negative I can see, and it's the same one as chat rooms: privacy settings create the illusion of security. They are easily infiltrated and the users conversations exposed. The larger Voat gets, the higher the proportion of normies, the greater the risk to all the naive will be.

Direct messages, by their nature, have a limited distribution. While they might be captured and shared by one of the recipients, the sender knows the risk and thinks about it when having to choose the individual recipients. There is a contemplation element that doesn't exist in a private "room", and the longer the privacy of a subverse goes on without infiltration, the more complacent and trusting (and at risk of infiltration) it's members will become.

@PuttitOut

That said, it would be cool to be able to make a private personal sub only the Owner themselves could see for drafts in progress, notes, saved links and so forth. I don't think it would be easy to abuse such a thing.

Crensch ago

Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.

I don't really see that as a downside - you're responsible for your own NetSec, and if you don't understand that, you'll figure it out quickly.

It's not a bad argument like some, I just disagree that we should protect all those normies from themselves.

Vindicator ago

Ah...I guess my point is -- in a private subverse, security is only as good as the weakest link. People in a group behave differently than people communicating one on one...most people, anyway. Especially on a Friday night after a couple of adult beverages.

Crensch ago

I agree; I believe it is up to each individual to keep their own necks out of the proverbial noose. We do what we can as mods and protectors of Voat and PG, but there's only just so much we can really do, and hindering functionality for that reason seems beyond wrong to me.

The more these usernames pop up and argue with me, the better the idea sounds. Just my .02.

Vindicator ago

The more these usernames pop up and argue with me, the better the idea sounds. Just my .02.

I know the feeling.

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