I like rule 1 a lot. I don't understand rule 2. If I make a meme with a fact that I reference in my title is that enough to constitute a source? Opinion political posts wouldn't work then? For example, Today I Learned Corey Booker sold his soul to big Pharma, reference the quarter of a million he's received in contributions from them. Title is not necessarily factual, but the link would be. Rule 3 is easy to understand. You could keep the rule, but as mod, tag every post that forgets to use the TIL in the beginning with a TIL tag so the post doesn't have to be deleted.
@SaneGoatiSwear I understand rule#3 "posts must begin with TIL" is a throwback to reddit arbitrary rules designed to allow mods to freely fuck with users even before you took ownership of this sub. Reminiscent of /v/AskVoat titles once requiring a question mark. What is the purpose of this rule now here on Voat now that you're an owner? The sub name is printed right next to any post in /new so not much point in requiring added "TIL" text.
One thing I would recommend adding to the side-bar rules is that this sub might mainly be for users who have recently discovered some fact or factoid which they want to share with others. The purpose of this sub is missing from the sidebar.
Yeah, he told me to dig into his post history to figure out what he was talking about. I wasn't really willing to do so because I've scanned his account several times before and it's a little hard to get through.
His grammar alone is off-putting. I was just trying to ask him to improve his presentation.
i write all my messages out each time, they're different, i do my best never to post lots of somethig repeatedly
exception: PSA announcements the admins fail to do. that is a public service to announce. if they let me post in annoucements it wouldn't matter they'd get downvoated without being stickied no one woul see them. the fucking POINT of psa's is for everyone to see them!
the truth must be heard, and when the admins fail to notify
and the admins silently remove mods of subs for notifying users of the sub of voat changes the admins fail to make for a month
oh no peace. at this juncture i am speaking the fuck up for those who have been removed, silenced, marginalized, downvoated in to -ccp and all of it.
i no longer am the sanegoatiswear of before, the goat who chilled in FPH all day.
no no.
i am the embodiment of truth.
i rebut your claims about atko.
at any time, he may no longer hold back those emotional desires.
they are bottled up. and they may blow. all . over... voat.
lol and probably me.
so what.
i am a fucking indicator species for voat's freedom of speech. i go so goes speech.
he clearly showed his knee jerk reaction to racists was to ban them.
and now
atko has silently removed a mod of a subfor notifying users of a major change to voat that the admins failed to announce for a month.
atko has left up law breaking comments and posts, breaking the user agreement with us.
urgh.
i understand what you're saying and you're right, but i'm saying it's just held back not magically gone.
people that cannot hear the truth through some asshole have a bigger problem than voat being compromised.
He's allergic to citation. I can't even fucking believe he sent you not one, but two clickable links! I argued with him for nearly an hour asking him to provide citation to me.
i would say it be either a rule or not at all and the til thing is just abandoned entirely fuck that.
either way i don't care. i mean part of me likes every post starting with til but it's not my sub. the community makes these rules. i have one voice in that community.
i say keep the til as rule, and evenly enforce.
that's me tho.
one voice.
anyway,
hmm.. well if it's a suggestion, as you suggest then there's no point in suggesting at all. the point of til is so the user reads in their head "today i learned" it's the thing of the sub. its part of the branding, i suppose.
that's like removing ALL mcdonald's logos and replacing them nothing.
if the community wants it then that's what'll happen!
in regards to your reiteration: i talked to each op specifically about this shit before deleting. i gave them time to talk to me about it and to resubmit with proper titles and factual posts.
they all outright refused.
they were both done in quick succession each. one a few days before and one that day.
they were both the only proof of anything.
one of the ops COMPLETELY fully admitted to voat publicly on protectvoat that it was all to fuck with me and those posts were shitposts meant to fuck with me on purpose.
the other it was clear "til anderson is a guys' name" or whatever. "til is the name of a plant." it was dishonor the rules or evenly enforce them. by leaving these posts up, it would be doing a dis service to the community's rule to not enforce evenly. so i asked poster to repost with the correct titles like "TIL til is the name of a plant."
wouldn't do it.
::shrug:: not my rules, i just evenly enforce them.
but does the community scream their heads off with 40 posts and 1000 comments and 2200 downvoats on LOCKE for that shit? FUCK NO
me for doing nothing of the sort but even headedly dealing with bait and shitposts by evenly enforcing the rules and working with ops to repost (even the shitposter!)
lock outright deletes comments on fee fes and doesnt delete other rule-breaking comments. bans on hipocricy pointed out.
note: those users are free to post and comment on v/til.
fffs
where is the 1000 comments an 40 posts about locke, peace seeker?
Faustian ago
But it's in line with your whole 'goat of the people' thing.
Faustian ago
Okay, I understand the rule now, but I don't like it. Still, I can see wanting to keep it that way if others want it so.
Faustian ago
I like rule 1 a lot. I don't understand rule 2. If I make a meme with a fact that I reference in my title is that enough to constitute a source? Opinion political posts wouldn't work then? For example, Today I Learned Corey Booker sold his soul to big Pharma, reference the quarter of a million he's received in contributions from them. Title is not necessarily factual, but the link would be. Rule 3 is easy to understand. You could keep the rule, but as mod, tag every post that forgets to use the TIL in the beginning with a TIL tag so the post doesn't have to be deleted.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
hm, add a flair for til?
meh then job is mod's not ops.
breedding lazy ops is a bad idea, faustian.
Faustian ago
As mod, you now serve us, you crazy goat. Besides, it is better than deleting, no?
something_went_wrong ago
@SaneGoatiSwear I understand rule#3 "posts must begin with TIL" is a throwback to reddit arbitrary rules designed to allow mods to freely fuck with users even before you took ownership of this sub. Reminiscent of /v/AskVoat titles once requiring a question mark. What is the purpose of this rule now here on Voat now that you're an owner? The sub name is printed right next to any post in /new so not much point in requiring added "TIL" text.
One thing I would recommend adding to the side-bar rules is that this sub might mainly be for users who have recently discovered some fact or factoid which they want to share with others. The purpose of this sub is missing from the sidebar.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
the community's rule. addressing this to me won't do much good. i am but one voice in the field of goats.
that said
meh
it is what it is. there's also v/todayilearned ...
lol
lol no i just mod it because no one else was.
the til rule is. it's purpose? ask people who were on reddit.
i've explained what i think it does so many times
basically in a reader's head it reads "today i learned" blah blah. but without taking up all the title space
in essence the sub is a running log of the things we learn or know and want to share.
there's no rule regarding whether you just learned it or not, and that would be only added if the community wanted it.
frankly i think it should be both
my vote would cancel yours out.
purpose of the sub
hm
post tils.
yeah it's kinda like you know
duh.
but w/e the community wants there. if people really need a "the purpose of v/til is to post things that are facts."
oh that's right it's there. we accept all data, as long as it's factual.
sorry the words aren't in the order you prefer.
if the community wills it i'm sure we couldfind some words for the side bar that fill your need for purposes to be clearly labeled.
Tor1 ago
TIL Perma-Jimmied SaneGoatiSwear thinks his unpaid Moderating gig is serious business.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQY36ZRoKg
SaneGoatiSwear ago
bro, you are free to repost your post when you can verify the source.
indeed, toreo.
heygeorge ago
What were you intending to link here? The reply comment has been deleted.
Edit: Or what was @smokratez linking to (which you wanted to point out.)
SaneGoatiSwear ago
your attempts at meaningful posting better, and meaningful discussion onthe rules shows you are being a goat.
cool beans.
Womb_Raider ago
Yeah, he told me to dig into his post history to figure out what he was talking about. I wasn't really willing to do so because I've scanned his account several times before and it's a little hard to get through.
His grammar alone is off-putting. I was just trying to ask him to improve his presentation.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
it's coming. i have taken the constructive criticism in.
see my new form.
lol
i am goatku.
https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/1538990
Womb_Raider ago
I'll believe it when I see it, man. I'm rooting for your improvement, you could do a lot of good with proper guidance
SaneGoatiSwear ago
like this?
dat bot army
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SaneGoatiSwear ago
point to me where
i write all my messages out each time, they're different, i do my best never to post lots of somethig repeatedly
exception: PSA announcements the admins fail to do. that is a public service to announce. if they let me post in annoucements it wouldn't matter they'd get downvoated without being stickied no one woul see them. the fucking POINT of psa's is for everyone to see them!
the truth must be heard, and when the admins fail to notify
and the admins silently remove mods of subs for notifying users of the sub of voat changes the admins fail to make for a month
oh no peace. at this juncture i am speaking the fuck up for those who have been removed, silenced, marginalized, downvoated in to -ccp and all of it.
i no longer am the sanegoatiswear of before, the goat who chilled in FPH all day.
no no.
i am the embodiment of truth.
i rebut your claims about atko.
at any time, he may no longer hold back those emotional desires.
they are bottled up. and they may blow. all . over... voat.
lol and probably me.
so what.
i am a fucking indicator species for voat's freedom of speech. i go so goes speech.
he clearly showed his knee jerk reaction to racists was to ban them.
and now
atko has silently removed a mod of a subfor notifying users of a major change to voat that the admins failed to announce for a month.
atko has left up law breaking comments and posts, breaking the user agreement with us.
urgh.
i understand what you're saying and you're right, but i'm saying it's just held back not magically gone.
people that cannot hear the truth through some asshole have a bigger problem than voat being compromised.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
like anakin trying not to go to the dark side.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
CHEERS! peace seeker you've always been best moderate peace seeking goat.
if i am banned or stop posting it's 100% confirmed voat is just reddit.
yeah,
i just finished compiling all the evidence of archives of fuzzy's shilling specifically
will post eventually tomorrow
got some irl stoof to do. :(
Womb_Raider ago
He's allergic to citation. I can't even fucking believe he sent you not one, but two clickable links! I argued with him for nearly an hour asking him to provide citation to me.
smokratez ago
https://voat.co/v/NYSOAKBA/1528475/7484757/10#7484757
Fuck off back to reddit srs.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
atko is confirmed sjw who "allows the racists on voat."
https://voat.co/v/subverserequest/6363/3750
https://voat.co/v/funny/89375/155306
SaneGoatiSwear ago
i would say it be either a rule or not at all and the til thing is just abandoned entirely fuck that.
either way i don't care. i mean part of me likes every post starting with til but it's not my sub. the community makes these rules. i have one voice in that community.
i say keep the til as rule, and evenly enforce.
that's me tho.
one voice.
anyway,
hmm.. well if it's a suggestion, as you suggest then there's no point in suggesting at all. the point of til is so the user reads in their head "today i learned" it's the thing of the sub. its part of the branding, i suppose.
that's like removing ALL mcdonald's logos and replacing them nothing.
if the community wants it then that's what'll happen!
in regards to your reiteration: i talked to each op specifically about this shit before deleting. i gave them time to talk to me about it and to resubmit with proper titles and factual posts.
they all outright refused.
they were both done in quick succession each. one a few days before and one that day.
they were both the only proof of anything.
one of the ops COMPLETELY fully admitted to voat publicly on protectvoat that it was all to fuck with me and those posts were shitposts meant to fuck with me on purpose.
the other it was clear "til anderson is a guys' name" or whatever. "til is the name of a plant." it was dishonor the rules or evenly enforce them. by leaving these posts up, it would be doing a dis service to the community's rule to not enforce evenly. so i asked poster to repost with the correct titles like "TIL til is the name of a plant."
wouldn't do it.
::shrug:: not my rules, i just evenly enforce them.
but does the community scream their heads off with 40 posts and 1000 comments and 2200 downvoats on LOCKE for that shit? FUCK NO
me for doing nothing of the sort but even headedly dealing with bait and shitposts by evenly enforcing the rules and working with ops to repost (even the shitposter!)
lock outright deletes comments on fee fes and doesnt delete other rule-breaking comments. bans on hipocricy pointed out.
note: those users are free to post and comment on v/til.
fffs
where is the 1000 comments an 40 posts about locke, peace seeker?
SaneGoatiSwear ago
lol as if these shills running voat know anything about that spirit.