@ExpertShitposter writes:
Zyklon has been sperging out with pings and threats against kids. Everyone called him out on his shit. However, anyone can block him.
Why look at that! He's right! Honestly, I cannot argue with this. Well done!
Crensch has engaged in reddit style moderation with pre-emptive bans based on association. No one can stop his bans.
Well, let's see how this pans out in a nice little Voat graphic:
|
Can be blocked |
Zyklon_b |
✅ |
Crensch |
✅ |
REEEE U CAN BLOCK ZYKLON REEEEE -> You can block Crensch and GA, too.
Or crensch heavy handed banning behavior makes it normal for everyone to ban anyone in defense against "shills".
All you lazy fucks had to do was turn on your weakest link with the fervor you turn on mods that don't toe the line you draw for them. But he wasn't your weakest link, was he? He was an art project - like the "art" students in the towers before (((9-11))).
Keep in mind, when 2020 comes around, r/the_donald will probably finally get banned from reddit for real this time, and we will potentially become minorities compared to fresh reddit refugees. And this time they won't have a home to run back to, and won't be BTFO'd as easily as last time.
They won't be BTFO'd at all. I'll create a subverse for them and run roughshod all over anyone still stuck in the bubble of (((free speech))) as you know it.
Most people agree that both of them are wrong, but who is a bigger threat to voat?
Do everyone here a favor and define this "voat" that I'm a threat to. I'd love to have that discussion soon.
@Trigglypuff writes:
Goats used to pride themselves on having thick skins.
But also wrote:
That’s when it got personal tbh.
Where's that thick skin? You took the revealing of a PM you ADMITTED made you sound like a loon, and plastered images she's previously removed from her other accounts all over a custom-built subverse. YOU think you have room to talk about thick skin? Or about women being emotional? Or how there are NO women on the internet?
It made you sound like a loon? Yeah, it did. So much so that I had the kind of cognitive dissonance you get when an AXIOM of your life is brought into question by something so solid you cannot dismiss it.
YOU did that. I don't even know how someone can manage to look so much like a goddamned shill/liar even when they are and are low-IQ. It was mind-boggling. It tripped nearly every red flag my mind could be bothered to muster through the state of shock it was in.
Even your re-reading of it got you to that conclusion; and now the (((emotional woman))) of voat has to go around talking shit about other women to feel better about herself.
We were fucking iconoclasts.
We were... in our bubble of internal logic. Now I am, outside of your bubble of logic.
All I see now is faggotry over beliefs
Beliefs like:
Hence Crensch is more dangerous to free speech
That's a belief, is it not?
What about this one:
q is definitely a Jewish lie
... which has been used to excuse any number of attacks on Q people, who have, to their credit, laughed with you almost invariably, to the point of referring to themselves as "qtards" now and then?
Consistency.
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Nadeshda ago
Good Morning,
You know I have been watching this unfold and I still do not not have all the boxes ticked but I do see that holding people accountable for their actions to be a good thing.
My mind struggles to understand how this can be done without creating a safe space. If say I block users that are annoying and aggressive then in effect I am living in bubble world. ( Not where I want to be)
Keeping sub related content though to their actual subs is rather important but shitposters constantly toe-the-line on this, under the banner of muh-free-speech!
I think you are trying to bring order to chaos by instilling an attitude of; keep your crap in your own room, I am tired of it spilling over into mine.
I can appreciate this as this is common decency and would be expected IRL.
I may be wrong on my thoughts here but it sounds sensible enough.
The fear is the powermod syndrome that will kick in and we will have gods running around abusing their power. If you run a subverse, then banning or deleting someone for comments, associations or posts elsewhere is clearly in my mind, overstepping the line.
SBBH as a shitposting sub does do this on the regular for the lulz and perhaps this too should be clearly understood in their subverse overview guidelines.
Anyhow, for some reason I felt like speaking to you about this and sharing some thoughts. I guess I am trying to understand your motive as I have always seen you as rather sensible, level headed type person.
Crensch ago
Thank you! So do I. I think it's important for a healthy society to have certain behaviours that are acceptable, and penalties for taking part in unacceptable behaviour.
It is a difficult conundrum.
I believe that is a combination of an organizational issue (not a speech one) and a Freedom of Association issue.
You are very right. That is one huge facet of what I'm doing here.
An armed society is a polite society.
Why, thank you. I, too, may be wrong; I do not think I am, though.
And that is what kept me in my absurd reverie of PV for so long. Those that do not deserve power always seek it.
I wonder if such things can be held as leverage to encourage good behaviour of those within subverses like SBBH. If many mods of many subverses demanded they keep their lies and inconsistencies in their own subverse, but carried a consistent character outside of that, I do believe a lot of our problems would not happen.
Part of the issue right now is the seeming license of any shitposter to say or do whatever without consequence anywhere on this website. Maybe useful, maybe not. Usernames with lots of time and effort put into them are going to feel pain when they cannot participate.
Food for thought.
It would be nice.
I appreciate that. Did I answer your questions to your satisfaction?
Nadeshda ago
I am smiling and thinking more about your satisfactory reply there... lol. :)
There is definitely food for thought as many who seek freedom do not realize that self restraint, discipline and accountability are often the path to enjoying such things.
No one appreciates nigger culture crapping up the place and a good sense of tidy mindedness goes a long way.
Can you remember the good ol’ fashioned word Prudence? I do not think many even recognize this virtue these days, shocking times we live in.
I will speak to you again so far it has been pleasant and appreciated. Have a good evening!
Crensch ago
I'll say that I have seen the word in books, and never used either in meatspace or digitally by anyone not using it as a proper noun for someone.
The pleasure was all mine. I look forward to our next correspondence.