Tired of the drama? You can block BOTH users and subverses! (SBBHTantrums)

submitted ago by Crensch

@ExpertShitposter writes:

Zyklon has been sperging out with pings and threats against kids. Everyone called him out on his shit. However, anyone can block him.

Why look at that! He's right! Honestly, I cannot argue with this. Well done!

Crensch has engaged in reddit style moderation with pre-emptive bans based on association. No one can stop his bans.

Well, let's see how this pans out in a nice little Voat graphic:

Can be blocked
Zyklon_b ✅
Crensch ✅

REEEE U CAN BLOCK ZYKLON REEEEE -> You can block Crensch and GA, too.

Or crensch heavy handed banning behavior makes it normal for everyone to ban anyone in defense against "shills".

All you lazy fucks had to do was turn on your weakest link with the fervor you turn on mods that don't toe the line you draw for them. But he wasn't your weakest link, was he? He was an art project - like the "art" students in the towers before (((9-11))).

Keep in mind, when 2020 comes around, r/the_donald will probably finally get banned from reddit for real this time, and we will potentially become minorities compared to fresh reddit refugees. And this time they won't have a home to run back to, and won't be BTFO'd as easily as last time.

They won't be BTFO'd at all. I'll create a subverse for them and run roughshod all over anyone still stuck in the bubble of (((free speech))) as you know it.

Most people agree that both of them are wrong, but who is a bigger threat to voat?

Do everyone here a favor and define this "voat" that I'm a threat to. I'd love to have that discussion soon.

@Trigglypuff writes:

Goats used to pride themselves on having thick skins.

But also wrote:

That’s when it got personal tbh.

Where's that thick skin? You took the revealing of a PM you ADMITTED made you sound like a loon, and plastered images she's previously removed from her other accounts all over a custom-built subverse. YOU think you have room to talk about thick skin? Or about women being emotional? Or how there are NO women on the internet?

It made you sound like a loon? Yeah, it did. So much so that I had the kind of cognitive dissonance you get when an AXIOM of your life is brought into question by something so solid you cannot dismiss it.

YOU did that. I don't even know how someone can manage to look so much like a goddamned shill/liar even when they are and are low-IQ. It was mind-boggling. It tripped nearly every red flag my mind could be bothered to muster through the state of shock it was in.

Even your re-reading of it got you to that conclusion; and now the (((emotional woman))) of voat has to go around talking shit about other women to feel better about herself.

We were fucking iconoclasts.

We were... in our bubble of internal logic. Now I am, outside of your bubble of logic.

All I see now is faggotry over beliefs

Beliefs like:

Hence Crensch is more dangerous to free speech

That's a belief, is it not?

What about this one:

q is definitely a Jewish lie

... which has been used to excuse any number of attacks on Q people, who have, to their credit, laughed with you almost invariably, to the point of referring to themselves as "qtards" now and then?

Consistency.

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sguevar ago

Since you have asked me so many things today. Let me rephrase the question I did to you earlier.

Are you willing to have the conversation to be able to create a new "letter of the law" as @Sandhog put it so we can accommodate the tools we need to fight against future harassment, so we can provide the tools to mods to defend themselves or are you just willing to create hit pieces that will disrupt the community further to proof how powerful you are?

Please man, we can't have the dialogue without you. Not because of we desperatly need you but you are an important part of Voat and you currently manage 2 subs that are quite big. Not having your insight wouldn't be faire to your two subs. This is why I am saying we need you. Not at PV perse, I know you don't want to be back there. But for the sake of Voat.

Crensch ago

Are you willing to have the conversation to be able to create a new "letter of the law" as @Sandhog put it so we can accommodate the tools we need to fight against future harassment, so we can provide the tools to mods to defend themselves or are you just willing to create hit pieces that will disrupt the community further to proof how powerful you are?

Why don't you all put together something, and I'll decide if I want to destroy it or not?

Not having your insight wouldn't be faire to your two subs.

What are you going to do about it? They don't seem to be having any issues so far.

Not because of we desperatly need you

Yeah, you do. I'm tearing you all apart, piece by piece, and I will continue to do so until I am satisfied.

sguevar ago

Why don't you all put together something, and I'll decide if I want to destroy it or not?

Fair enough you can consult it then if you want, I honestly wanted you to be a more active party so it accomodates your subs also. But one last attempt, why don't you consult it with them? Don't you think they would find it beneficiary if their owner participates in this conversation. Just a thought.

What are you going to do about it? They don't seem to be having any issues so far.

My interest is that your subscribers don't become the type that is daddy mod do this or that and that they know they have to actively engage on the sub. Is not just about making posts or commenting but also to spot the shills and to downvote their unproductive comments and denounce the posts that break the rules. Right now many are complaining about the shitposters this and that to which your solution was to ban hammer left and right and you know that is not the right call.

Yeah, you do. I'm tearing you all apart, piece by piece, and I will continue to do so until I am satisfied.

Me personally? Not really, for as I said I have nothing to hide. As I have said many times, he that doesn't owe nothing, doesn't fear anything. I don't know about the others but your actions are sure putting in check Voat man.

This is why I am trying, the hardest I can to ask you to please stop with this approach and lets start working together. In the end my interest is that most of Voat if not all of it's current users vote on the new "letter of the law" for the sake of the future ones and the platform itself.

Crensch ago

Fair enough you can consult it then if you want, I honestly wanted you to be a more active party so it accomodates your subs also.

I guess you'll all have to fawn over each other to try and appease me before I stomp your ideals into the mud like I'm currently doing.

But one last attempt, why don't you consult it with them? Don't you think they would find it beneficiary if their owner participates in this conversation. Just a thought.

Nah, I'll take it like a bidding war.

My interest is that your subscribers don't become the type that is daddy mod do this or that and that they know they have to actively engage on the sub. Is not just about making posts or commenting but also to spot the shills and to downvote their unproductive comments and denounce the posts that break the rules.

I'll do what is necessary to make their experience here a good one.

Right now many are complaining about the shitposters this and that to which your solution was to ban hammer left and right and you know that is not the right call.

I know it was.

Me personally? Not really, for as I said I have nothing to hide. As I have said many times, he that doesn't owe nothing, doesn't fear anything. I don't know about the others but your actions are sure putting in check Voat man.

Glad you managed to keep yourself from the fallout. I must not owe anything, as well.

This is why I am trying, the hardest I can to ask you to please stop with this approach and lets start working together. In the end my interest is that most of Voat if not all of it's current users vote on the new "letter of the law" for the sake of the future ones and the platform itself.

I don't know if you've noticed, but the platform itself is humming along nicely. The only people affected by this are those in the dirty underbelly of this place. It was time for a purge.

Dismember ago

I'll do what is necessary to make their experience here a good one.

I like what I'm seeing there especially but I do have my doubts about your motivations, given it's a pretty big turnaround from the Crensch of last year who confronted some of the migrations to Voat. You proved your yourself once before on PizzaGate when I doubted you though, so what do I know..

kestrel9 ago

I don't know if you've noticed, but the platform itself is humming along nicely. The only people affected by this are those in the dirty underbelly of this place. It was time for a purge.

Yes, no thanks to the hand wringers on protect voat. Thanks @crensch, it's about time regular users had an advocate with some clarity on the more difficult choices. The spirit of the law can't be realized as long as those who malignantly corrupt both letter and spirit of the law are given priority over everyone else.

@sguevar mentions trying to provide the tools for mods to defend themselves. As far as working with srayzie and GA, seems quite a wretched track record on that with no acknowledgment of judgement error on their part.

sguevar ago

This has to come from all Mods. Is not just PV. What I am trying to do is rally people that can work on this process. I know you find Crensch as the one with clarity here, but I am in no interest of fighting him. And his insight is valuable as he was one of the users that assisted on the creation of the first rules that help Voat more than 3 years ago. If he doesn't want to participate on the new process... would you? You seem to be quite rational and logical. I think you can definitely bring value to this.

Crensch ago

The (((Chosen ones))) are never wrong, goyim!