What do you make of that?! Maybe the shooting event was a catalyst leading up to blowing the whistle?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zgcAs72e5CM&t=0s
UPDATE - adding Zach Vorhes first response to Julzee2 in Thread Header (directly below)
Zach Vorhies
Hey everyone, this is Zach Vorhies who is featured in this video.
I wanted to come here and give you my statement on everything that happened. First off, I considered doing a video response but after talking with some influencers we came to the conclusion that this story would be a distraction from the Google leaks so I'm instead going to talk about this here and maybe a few other places and hopefully this will be sufficient to answer questions. If it's not, you can find me on twitter and send me a message.
Q: Why is Zach the only one on camera?
A: Google has a strict policy on talking on camera about Google and requires employees to have a chat with PR as standard practice. Obviously this situation is out of the ordinary but the Google policy probably was the main reason employees don't want to talk to the media. Also most people don't like the camera to begin with. A group of camera people were located at Traeger Av and Bayhill Dr (94066). Employees walked by and NONE of them would talk to the reporters who were asking questions. I was likely the 200th person that the camera people saw. No joke. As I was walking by I made eye contact with one of the many reporters and they took that as a sign to ask me what happened... and unlike all other 200 people before me I responded. Also I've been on Television before (Americas Greatest Makers, and a Kickstarter) so the camera is something I'm very comfortable with. So you can imagine what happens next when someone finally is willing to talk about what happened on camera. Camera people swarm me and I become the go-to person that everyone world wide is calling.
Q: What about the false flag allegations?
A: Shots WERE fired. So the shooting did in fact happen. My co-worker Jared Gray was eating lunch at the time it happened. He realized it was a shooting situation when the bullets shattered the window near him. He ran out. As far as the shooter... yeah it's weird. Like really really weird. I've already been down the rabbit hole on this and if I make public statements about the situation then it can lead to a distraction... because it's that weird of a story! If one wants to go down that rabbit hole then listen VERY closely to my description of the person who was shot. Then read the msm reports. Then look up the pictures of the shooter Nasim and reconcile.
Please keep focus on the Google Leaks and not make this more of a story than it has to be. I gave up my 260k / year career and risked being black listed so that you can know the truth about what Google is doing to subvert democracy.
Cheers,
~Zach
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20430691? ago
He made a comment on this video addressing it. Seems extremely plausible
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New dialog between Julzee2 and Zach -
julzee2
Thanks for addressing this Zach. I don't think anyone believes no shots were fired. We're all pretty much aware that FF doesn't mean innocents don't get hurt, killed, or unintentionally involved for real or that the shooters aren't real. Some are, some aren't. Some believe you to be one of them unaware of what was going on at the time and working at this place you happened to get caught up in the FF. But you've got to understand given this environment we live in where we've got to question EVERYTHING that it's pretty shocking for us to find out that you were a witness like this. Yet you never once mentioned it in any of the many interviews you've done. Of course it makes us naturally question it.
We see a freeging DS symbol go by in the background (cab w/phone # 333-3333) during your witness interview, the 10 lonely comments on a year and 1/2 old abc7 video and now your interview with redpill with a weird symbol-looking creature in the background? Come on Zach seriously. You've got to at least explain what the heck is that and why have it behind you when you know all this weirdness is going on all around us. What does that art mean that you sit behind you? Do you not see how this would look to us given as you say the 'like really weird' stuff we experience?
And how in the world is addressing it on twitter any different (less distraction)?
I in now way have questioned whether the current info you release re: Google leak is valid or not. It sounds like it totally is. What really has me upset about the whole thing is the fact that we had to find out that you witnessed this FF by accident over a year later..? Imo the silence just made it worse. Now we have to question whether you were privy to this FF and part of the acting team or someone unintentionally caught up in it? Especially now that it seems you are hinting that you know more but don't want to get into it bc it will distract from the leaks part. Given that I don't know what you know that also does not make sense bc you having knowledge of a Google FF I would think would 'add' to the enlightenment of the Google corruption!
Would you be willing to answer our questions here? Seems much more private than twitter.
2 hours ago (edited)
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Truth Fairy in da house!
Zach: i just wsnt to say that i am a believer and u can see, given you work at Google, not an unlikely reason for you to be there, that you were interviewed. Was the google shooting a FF? Yes likely imo but it's not like i think you are behind it. Just there, at your job. The other crisis actors are hired by ad (listen to today's x22 btw for NY and Nevada) and have appeared at seversl FF events or even mimic each other's lines for God's sake.
But i am also incredibly intuitive. Heck one can say as a counselor, and business and financial consultant, is part of the job and i think not only is he not lying, the way he want about the google whistle-blower sutch, he was brilliant about how he went about it. But many people would do what he did. Keep in mind two questions
1. Who is he up against? Deep State and the MSM
2. What did he gain, lose? He lost a lot... And for what? Nothing. He is hanging on to money, which has other ramifications plus integrity... Who do you think is going to hire him now? Income? Friends? He just became a social pariah ... Sorry to be so glib about this Zach.
Ps, i would love to talk to you offline but i have my iwn concerns about safety and i, too, have been targeted.
1 hour ago
julzee2
Ask him what the damn image is behind him during the redpill interviews. Pretty stupid thing to have there with a bunch of anons looking at ds symbolism 24/7 the past 2 1/2 years...lol Does it not look like hair made of pedo symbols? And Egyptian-looking stone-face weirdo with eyes shut..? Wtf seriously? Look, I'm not saying that I don't believe him on the google dumps. Obviously google f#cks with us and does all that Zach says they do. And with veritas behind him it's almost silly 'to' question his authenticity. But why make things worse by interviewing in front of such an odd thing that's sure to make people uncomfortable and force paranoia that need not be there?
1 hour ago
Zach Vorhies
@julzee2
I just lost my entire comment so I'll just be brief:
I have talked about this shooting briefly in another video interview recently. I didn't talk about weird aspects of the shooting because in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter in comparison to the leaks which affects literally everyone. The normies won't respond well to it, hence I won't state it here but I've given enough crumbs to get the sleuths started. The main lie that the msm told is staring you right in the face.
As far as the number 333-3333, have you searched for this number on the internet? It maps to YellowCabSf.
As far as the symbol you mention. Go check the FBI database and see how different their symbol is from what you think you see.
~Z~
1 hour ago
julzee2
@Zach Vorhies Ugh I hate when that happens. Could you please link me to that video where you talked about the shooting? Maybe hearing what you had to say about it will give me/us better understanding.
And yes, another sub said he looked for the number and did not find it as a valid in the US but apparently he was wrong..?
Can you please explain what the thing behind you is or is supposed to represent to you? I hope you understand why I have the attitude that I have. Given what we've all been through and have discovered these past few years it's almost as though you are inviting it! All this weird symbolism from crazy people who like to harm children and pull off FF's full of 3's, 6's, shoes etc, can you not see how positioning yourself in front of that thing would possibly produce such a response? If you want people to trust you and hear your intended message about Google then please try to be cognizant about other unintended messages that you may be sending in the future by 'not' having weird ds looking stuff in view so we can focus on your interview rather than wonder wth is behind you...lol
Look, I hope that you are a real whistleblower and 90% of me believes you are. I can't imagine how difficult it must be for you and the dramatic change to your life because of it. I do not intend to degrade your heroism AT ALL but you've got to admit things are a bit weird for all of us in these times. We can't trust ANYONE or ANYTHING anymore. It's prudent for us to question and that's what I have to do until things make sense to me.
It doesn't make sense how exposing Google's corruption is more important than alerting the public to FF's and unnecessary deaths is. Especially when Trump/Q already have Google under control for our future via EOs and IBofRights etc yet people are being harmed in FF's and policies enacted to take our guns away are in progress..? Seems like both issues could be addressed simultaneously. But I understand that you and 'influencers' have discussed this and determined that FF's are not as important to alert the public to. I get it. But it's odd how you and your influencers are now acting like Q giving crumbs instead of just coming out with it. Wow. Why not have your influencers give the info out instead of you if deviating from your focus of censorship is more important? They're already deemed conspiracy theorists anyway and them giving the info out won't interfere with your mission right? Seriously just doesn't make sense.
12 minutes ago (11:15PM EST)
20432458? ago
Julzee2 here. Thank you whoever did this recap. I'm sorry but I'm irritated by this conversation with Vorhes. Maybe I need a break or maybe I have valid reason to be irritated. All I know is that I'm irritated. The explanations I am getting are so...just don't make sense to me. It feels like he and his 'influencers' are sitting on major information that 'they' determined must be kept from us all bc 'they' are making judgements that the normies won't accept it? Seriously? Since when did accommodating normies' comfort level become part of the Qtuber montra? Have we not been reporting on all kinds of subjects that our families and other normies look at us like we're whacko nut jobs for discussing but we stride ahead anyway?
I understood in a way the first reasoning. That 'he' didn't want to take focus away from his apparently 'more important' message of getting out that Google censors and fucks with us. No shit Dick Tracy. Do we all not already know this? I guess normies still don't know..? And I'm sure the documentational proof is great as far as pushing the masses forward in supporting IBofRights. But if people really are getting hurt & killed in these FF's would saving future deaths not be as important (if not more) than alerting the masses to Google censorship? Maybe not. Maybe they know that no one really does get hurt ergo why it's so easy for them to make a judgment call like that..?
Is Trump/Q team not already on the ball to correcting the censorship problem with EO's and Internet Bill of Rights on the way? So the 'more important' thing I guess initially ticked me off bc more important to who? Probably not the people getting killed or maimed. Meanwhile the Left is in full gear making legislation deemed at taking our guns away, terrorizing the normies into supporting these measures, with you can be sure more FF's on the way. Especially with what's about to drop re: Comey and Crossfire Hurricane etc.
Is there a reason why BOTH issues cannot be addressed simultaneously? I get why Vorhes himself might not want to do it because yes, it does make sense that it would muddy his message. But do his influencers not have enough backbone to take on the challenge keeping Vorhes out of it? Could they not drop the info here on voat as anon if they're too chicken to drop a video on their channels?
I don't know. Just seems egotistical to me that they feel it righteous to sit on info shared only among themselves (whoever these influencers are) bc they have determined that sharing might take away from their overall plan? They're acting like they're Q. Drop us a few crumbs and let the sleuths go at it when they already have the answers they could easily drop either here or in a video. I get why Q does it. It's part of the process of us thinking for ourselves. It's what got us this far, so far. They have the full picture. But us little folk researchers? We now have a full picture plan that requires us to censor what info we put out there and what info we keep to ourselves bc it might ruin the bigger plan we've got going?
Idk, It just doesn't make sense to me. I thought we anons all passed our sauces on to the rest of us so that whoever is able to make bread out of it, makes the bread and we all eat for the day.
20432678? ago
Hi Julzee2! OP here. Its been incredible following along with your dialog with Zach! You've been pushing hard for a couple days, probably time to give it a break and get some rest. I agree with your concerns and frustrations. Sometimes it will come together after a good nights sleep and a large covfefe. That's my plan!
20432930? ago
Ok will do but first will you give me your opinion on this line of thinking? I'm starting to wonder if Zach really was a crisis actor except a white hat crisis actor not black hat. So... say he really is a legit whistleblower right? He says in his interviews that he became alarmed to Google shit in 2016 right after the election. Yet this shooter event happened 1 1/2 years later in 2018. So he was already aware of and not on Google's side by the time of the shooting right? Was probably already grabbing docs from Google without their knowledge..? And now in his comments to me he's basically admitting that he dropped crumbs in his witness interview...? He says listen VERY carefully to how he described the shot person. Still not exactly sure what he means by that other than instead of saying that the guy was bleeding he said that there was a red blotch on his abdomen or something similar. Then in his comment to me he said 'then listen to how msm described it' which I think the reporter said the guy was shot in the chest 'and' abdoment. And then Vorhes says to me look into the shooter and reconcile.So wtf? Is he saying that back in that 2018 interview he was dropping crumbs? You know what I mean?
Why does he go into explanation to me that his reasoning why 200 other yt employees ahead of him did not stop for the reporter bc yt policy of no interviews without pr auth first. Yet he can break protocol bc he's used to the camera? How the hell does that make sense? A policy is a policy whether you like cameras or not. And now these crumbs dropped 'during' the interview? So why 'did' he describe the shot person like that? Sounds to me like that at the time he did the witness interview he 'knew' he was describing it like that on purpose (crumbs) Starting to sound to me like he may be a white hat plant inside google..? A white hat crisis actor? Is there such a thing...lol
Ppl can hate on me bc I called him a crisis actor but I still think it's possible that my gut feeling about him being one might actually be correct...;)
20438411? ago
Is it possible he is some type of Snowden 2.0? Or reverse Snowden?
Remember back when Greenwald broke Snowden story, he seemed like a white hat? And actually did expose some things that needed to be exposed?
After following Q for nearly two years now, is/was Snowden a white hat? Gray hat at best?
So here we have Vorhies, involved in a potential FF as a crisis actor, who appears to expose damning evidence about GOOG. But all info was already publicly available? And things we already instinctively knew regardless of documentation?
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I think seriously possible yes. You described it perfectly. Is he a white hat or not? Who knows? Sure 'looks' like one but at the same time so did Snowden. My impression from the Q posts is that Snowden is NOT a white hat but again who knows? It's all too murky.
Q said "STAY AWAKE" right? Imo all these people who have just automatically taken sides one way or the other are allowing themselves to drop their guards. How many initially thought Corsi was a good guy. Or any of the many others who 'looked' like good guys turned out to be clowns ? I think what we are doing in questioning the facts around Vorhies is what we are 'supposed' to be doing. Thank you for this.
Also could it be that he's been a white hat implant into Google all along specifically placed 'to' whistleblow at the right time? Seriously, I don't understand why some, after all we've been taught by Q to question and to be careful who we follow, why do some seem to get offended because we do?...lol Are they emotionally attached to Vorhies? Or are they Q soldiers? Seriously people need to STAY AWAKE!
20434254? ago
Sorry, I was out like a light after my last email (was almost 1am on the East Coast!). It was a very long day and my mind was turning into a useless blob. I blundered on the taxi cab phone lookup, thought I saw 333 area code (which does not exist), not a 333 local exchange. 333-333-3333 vs 333-3333. That's how burnt I was getting. Was past time to hang it up for the night.
I follow your logic and agree. Strange that Zach gets the interview, prior familiarity in front of a camera shouldn't preempt Corporate Policy regarding interviews. Was it an impulsive act now, beg forgiveness later moment for Zach? I don't have high confidence in any one answer yet, FWIW.
I need to re-review crumbs to be familiar with all the nuanced details about Zach. You are way ahead of me in that, you are doing a great job! I'm just a novice digger, came from a geopolitical news junkie background before VOAT. I'm not a super sleuth but am pretty solid with logical thinking.
The haters gonna hate, they seldom help move the ball forward and most will just consume your energy if you try to convince them. I know the Patriots on VOAT truly appreciate the work you are doing and look forward to unearthing the Truth. Trust your instincts!
20434646? ago
Did you see the latest I got from one of who looks to be coming to his defense and answering 'for' him?
Awry 37 minutes ago
@julzee2 ffs, how much effort did you put in to identify the image? It is a standard buddha, with the forehead mark being a standard labyrinth.
Wisdom is like a beacon of light shining in the distant dark. Against the light of day, it gets washed out, but against the dark it lights the way. It always looks closer than it is, and the journey is what proves us worthy of knowing it. The truth has always been there beckoning to whosoever should seek it.
The forehead placement is standard third eye, and the labyrinth must be solved in order to access what is behind it. The square spiral is often depicted as both puzzle and key, a ramp on a pyramid or right angled structure. Angles allow passage between, and circles protect and contain. Open squares like a spiral square depict a charge or current, live electricity, a force applied. A round spiral is waves and pulses of a natural origin. Also tunnels across time and space, funnels, cyclones, a force that draws up.
julzee2 1 second ago
Thanks for explaining it to me. My mother was into buddhas for awhile and collected them and I never saw one that looked like this one. Btw no need to begin with what looks to be insult via 'how much effort did I put into identifying the image'. Sounds like you know more about Zach's prop than he does. Why couldn't he have answered this when I asked him? He simply said the symbol does NOT look like the fbi symbol when in fact the one in the center of the forehead exactly looks like the fbi symbol. And why choose that particular buddha to showcase behind you when the third eye, the 'maze' pedo symbol are symbols found on Epstein Island etc that we've all been sensitized to? Look, if you can't seem to understand the validity of my questions then I'm sorry but to me everything I've questioned is clearly valid considering all we've been through these past few years. I happen to continue to follow Q's STAY AWAKE, be careful who you follow and see something say something advise. I do not trust anyone and will not succumb to stopping questioning bc like some here 'like' and believe Zach. It doesn't seem wise to let down our guards. I would think would actually understand this. And I would think that Zach would be a bit more aware of and careful about what might logically be taken out of context when adding props behind his interviews.
Btw, he actually does seem to be confirming that he WAS a crisis actor in that witness interview if you bother to think about it. He basically told me to listen VERY carefully to how he described the shot victim as he described in that witness interview. Why listen carefully to what he said unless he specifically said something to leave crumbs..? If that is what he was doing then he was not simply telling his witnessing of events. He was acting was he not? It would better explain why he chose to do the interview in the first place while others chose not to compared to the lame explanation that he was camera friendly. A whistleblower white hat giving clues as a witness is 'acting' is it not? If..that was what he was doing.
20434816? ago
Awry response seems to be a brain twister. If he's Zach's handler, is he laying smoke and chaff to confound and delay or is he providing insight to help us get to the truth without simply spelling it out? Seems like the former to me but then again the symbols, dark arts, Buddhism, are not my forte. FYI - I'll occasionally be off line today but will monitor this thread when I return. Trust your intuition, it brought you this far, apparently at a point of increased resistance. You must be getting closer to the truth!
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Thank you for your feedback. I really do appreciate it bc you sound like someone interested in like I feel I am doing. Questioning and thinking logically about what we are hearing/seeing regardless of who's feet we might step on. Too many I think are being lazy and letting their guards down bc they seem to 'like' the guy. But we've been there, done that already with known clowns already (Corsi, AntiSchool, etc). There are many I have trusted just to find out I was wrong to do so. I will not let that happen again. I'm just trying to make sense out of it all. And I can't let go of the fact of how stupid it seems to me to use that buddha for a back drop. Stupid bc you'd HAVE to know that we'd misinterpret it given the dark symbols it's got. So now I'm to be ridiculed bc I'm not an expert on buddhas?...lol How about Zach being ridiculed for using one of the worst props he could find as a back drop which imo 'invites' my type of response...ugh