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16142799? ago

Many are familiar with the Stanford Prison Experiment

you had me until this point. How are you going to say all this stuff about psychobabble bullshit and then use an example of a pseudoscientific experiment to justify your point?

16144891? ago

I think the point still stands. As an individual, you have the power to control your own attitude and that attitude can be kick-started by your environment, peer pressure, what basic assumptions you have, what chemicals you put in your body.

Even with a lack of will power, you can orchestrate your own success by adjusting your environment.

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of course the point stands. the evidence he uses to support it though is flawed

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16135721? ago

Anon, could you please crosspost to v/GreatAwakening? Thanks!

16135679? ago

Maybe we all should think about more the 'white magic' you suggest (without necessarily calling it so, in order not to put people off). Everybody who researches evil needs to keep a sane mind, and you'll have to think of 'white magic' you can employ in order to achieve that.

Like praying, or envisioning a benign, white energy around you, or imagining joyful things.

16135528? ago

I highly recommend reading up on Jungian Psychology. Very insightful reading, for Carl Jung was ahead if his time, unlike Freud who was full of shit.

The stuff you were talking about regarding Black Magic is essentially manipulating the “Collective Unconsiousness” for evil purposes.

16135610? ago

Jung was into alchemy and the occult, and many of his writings were never published. Probably because the public would be shocked. The estate refuses even wellknown scholars to study the archives. That is how bad it is probably.

Apart from that, yes, Jung has more valuable insights than Freud, and I'd recommend reading his published writings.

16135788? ago

Never knew that occultist shit about him.

Much of our problems regarding gender conflict in terms of a Jungian scenario can nicely be summed up in terms of BOTH the “negative masculine” and “negative feminine” running amok. BOTH are evil, both destructive in different ways.

The “negative feminine” can best be seen via modern feminism and the “Devouring Mother Archetype” (seeks to create emasculated inactive males, thus attack the “positive masculine and create a numbed down society in a “freezing chaos” scenario).

Easiest example of the “negative masculine” would be the evils Islam and White Sharia and its “values”. Think violent domineering rapist conqueror.

Combined, these archetypes create a divide and conquer scenario designed to turn good people at each others throats.

Add in MK Ultra, false flags, “black magic”, etc and no wonder our world is so fucked up

16136111? ago

can best be seen via modern feminism

Yes. Ironically, feminism fought (rightly) against the negative impacts of toxic masculinity, but didn't manage to replace the toxic feminity, but instead accused all men of being evil (potential rapists and misogynists) and promoted all women are good, totally neclecting that women too might be aggressive and destructive.

What's even more ironic is that the latest branch of feminism (intersectional feminism) is now advocating open borders (flooding of Western societies with Muslim males with often more destructive attitudes, not used to live in free, democratic societies), and advocating that genital mutilation, forcing women to wear burqas etc. is not bad, but must be respected as a 'non-Western' tradition. That's totally fucked up.

16136024? ago

Yes. Somewhere I've read that only 5-10% of what he actually wrote got published. The rest is kept secret by his estate, and I'll bet there is a lot of dark occult stuff among it. He also worked for the CIA predecessor.

Some reading recommendations:

16136441? ago

Just looked through that first article.

I am shocked and thoroughly disappointed. Quite the bitter red pill to swallow.

Guess the best thing to do with that pill is to see the published stuff as a tool that can be used for both good and evil purposes...and choose to use that knowledge for good.

16136537? ago

Guess the best thing to do with that pill is to see the published stuff as a tool that can be used for both good and evil purposes...and choose to use that knowledge for good.

Yes, that's my take on this as well.

Investigating Pizzagate has let to many disappointments regarding former 'heroes' = people I used to admire. :-/

16135508? ago

Great thread.

16134472? ago

I read an account by someone who partook in the Stanford Prison Experiment. Don’t ask for sauce because it was a while ago and I dont remember where I read it. But anyway, this guy said it was mostly a lie. Said there was only one “guard” who was out of control. Everyone else was fine.

My guess: the out of control guy was a plant. (((They))) want us to believe we are all vicious underneath a civilized front. (((They))) want us to be afraid of each other and even of ourselves. I choose to believe that human nature is much better than that. The sickness comes from being tormented.

16134268? ago

Red Granite is the 1MDB scandal film studio name. Red Granite Pictures Inc. illumanti symbolism , Joey McFarland (odd instagram photos) https://illuminatiwatcher.com/illuminati-symbolism-daniel-radcliffe-horns-film/ and https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/red-granite-missing-papillon-poster-1114293

16134116? ago

Eratosthenes correctly measured the circumference of the earth... not entirely true!

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16133885? ago

What sometimes worries me is the thought that Pizzagate might also be part of an evil plan, by getting people to reveal the Satanism/Luciferianism, so you'll end up in a catch22 situation - when you don't reveal evil, you contribute to their plan, but when you reveal it, it also might be part of a plan - that is that people despair when they realize how bad the situation really is, and give up every opposition and resistance.

Alas, I don't see any alternative to helping survivors, and get the word out about elite child rape.

16133667? ago

What's your take re an MK Ultra project 'Monarch', OP? Imo this one has never existed.

16133658? ago

When you get emotional and allow a news article to make you emotional, you activate the more primitive parts of your mind, stealing electrochemical energy from the part that makes you human, the part on the front that no other creature has.

Yes. That is what has happened in Europe.

Instigate mass migration from Syria and other Muslim countries. Do a psy-op by brainwashing people in the West that these are all poor refugees (while most of the genuine refugees are middle class from Syria, or migrants from other countries like Morocco, Tunesia etc, many of the latter criminals), which people have to embrace and take care of. Get people to forget that most of these refugees and migrants are young males, not women and children. And that the really poor and most traumatized refugees never make it to Western countries anyway.

Create an opposition by setting up anti-Islam and rightwing groups, talk about an upcoming civil war. Finance anti-fa groups that fight the anti-Islam and rightwing groups. Get people all emotional by instigating terror attacks, and by reading news about the crimes the young male migrants commit.

Make people vote for rightwing governments that take civil liberties away like in Poland or Hungary, because they seem like the only solution to the problem.

Make people vote for leftwing governments that take civil liberties away by seemingly fighting 'hate speech' because they give you the notion you are a good human being when you accept open borders and shifting money to welfare institutions that care for refugees.

End up with a polarized, divided, agitated population, that has turned away from calm discussions, one that lets itself being ruled even easier.

16133396? ago

OP, can you recommend some websites, articles or books about Tavistock or other things you think would be useful to reading?

That would be terrific, thank you! :-)

16133358? ago

@swordfish69 @darkknight111 @ASolo @new4now @TrishaUK - you might want to read this interesting post.

16139736? ago

this post got me thinking thats for sure

too many thoughts actually

isnt this what parents do with their children?

throw in Spock and Freud types and things start changing

Charisma...these people totally take over when in the right place

seems from the get go, some people have to be constantly told what to do, they look for guidance, reassurance

weak

easy enough to manipulate these people, think religions, cults

DRUGS.. mass manipulation

LSD, Adderall etc etc

what would mass manipulation be without labels?

I dont look at it as casting a spell, those days are long gone

pure Psychology, used good, bad and twisted

we all do it

how many little boys grew up to have hairy palms? lol, just an example

This stuff been around since the get go

Perception can be easily manipulated

Critical Thinkers seem to be on the endangered list

when you think of it, it didnt take long for a total crash of the way people think

Personally, I think the really big push came in the 60's

A psych manipulation that has resulted with the mess we are now dealing with

sry for all the rapid thoughts, my ADHD kicking in

didnt have the label when I was a kid

we were lively and energetic

just something you learn to live with, good and bad

16139774? ago

Critical Thinkers seem to be on the endangered list

Indeed.

sry for all the rapid thoughts, my ADHD kicking in

No need to apologize, what you write totally makes sense.

didnt have the label when I was a kid we were lively and energetic

Yes. It sucks to put labels on kids.

16140365? ago

my firstborn has it

didnt think nothing of it, told him he had to learn to do things different

ride out the rapids till you get to calmer waters, learn to use it

I can multi task like nobodies business lol

learn to buckle down and focus

learn to function with little sleep lol

he was diagnosed as an adult, they put him on adderall

I told him meds might make things worse, and to pay attention to what was happening

told him he might be better off dealing with it himself

He took meds for maybe 2 wks :)

same for Bi Polars

meds will flatline you

you dont have the manic anymore and dont get anything done, you just go on auto pilot

I realize there are people that meds truly help, but I dont think they are for everyone

16133340? ago

@bopper @kevdude @Factfinder2 @The_Savant @9217 - you might want to read this interesting post.

16133294? ago

@srayzie @Shizy @letsdothis3 @EricKaliberhall @Crensch - you might want to read this very interesting post.

16136590? ago

Thanks for the ping

16136833? ago

Welcome.

16133263? ago

That's a fascinating post, thank you.

Would you maybe consider doing a post about Tavistock for v/pizzgate? You'd just have to back up the facts that most people don't know with links. (See rule 2 of v/pizzagate in sidebar - when on mobile, please switch to desktop view.)

@Vindicator, one of the v/pizzagate mods, can help you with that.

16133182? ago

They eventually co-opted Santa Muerta cults in Mexico before moving onto Voodoo cults in the Caribbean. Their theology, or a close facsimile, now rules a number of cults for the Crown, where the occultists, themselves, are dupes.

Could you elaborate on this, please?

16133121? ago

Getting you to "act" is a simple three step plan they contrived in the 40s but applies to tap apps, today. Create a basic assumption, trigger an extreme emotion using that assumption, then call to action (usually, vote.)

Although many here don't want to hear it, that's exactly what Q does when he says 'military is saviour', 'there will be military tribunals', thus turning the minds of people to get used to a different society, and accept the rule of the military.

That's terrible.

That's also what all the shills are doing that call for a civil war.

Military tribunals and a civil war are not necessary. We can do it with our civil institutions.

16133057? ago

In order to get around it, you really have to "white magic" yourself, but that doesn't mean trapping yourself in delusional positivism, it is more about embracing neutrality and knowing that the most powerfully cast spell is when you calmly, confidently tell the truth about bad behavior.

This.

16132937? ago

The ideal manipulation isn't to make everyone vote the same. The ideal manipulation is to make half the population vote one way and the other half vote the other way. There is never supposed to be a strong majority to lead the way, because things would actually get done and a single party could eliminate all of the corrupt officials in other parties

Part of the DS plan for 100s of years has been to create conflict and war in order to lure people away from the real problems. "If you can't fool them with facts, baffle with with bullshit."

16133852? ago

Studies show the Millennials have much higher rates of anxiety and depressive disorders, along with narcissism.

That's also due to Social Media use, which facilitates the development of narcissiscm (constantly sharing seemingly 'perfect' pics of faces, possessions, and experiences) and anxiety and depression (turning away from real life, comparing yourself constantly with others).

Hide your child away from any tough experiences and you create a snowflake that is incapable of adult behavior, but also has a personality disorder.

No. The absence of tough experiences doesn't create personality disorders, it 'merely' might create bad character traits by turning the kid into a selfish being, and might make already existing personality disorders worse.

Most personality disorders result from the experience of violence and the absence of (true) love.

16134890? ago

Thanks for clarifying some subtleties I didn't clarify very well.

16134966? ago

You're welcome. You got it all right, basically, I just feel it's important to point out the difference between having bad character traits, and having a personality disorder. The first one might be amended by further life experience (meeting kind people f.e.), the latter needs treatment by a professional therapist. And they also have different causes (although there might be an overlapping, f.i. when having malignant narcissists as parents).

Looking forward to reading more comments by you!

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16129693? ago

When you get emotional and allow a news article to make you emotional, you activate the more primitive parts of your mind, stealing electrochemical energy from the part that makes you human, the part on the front that no other creature has. Junk food. A sedentary life. Electronic screen dopamine traps. Pornography. Drugs. These things and more all work together, designed by people you will never meet and never know about, to steal your humanity and make you more of an easily controlled animal.

This is not new. Aristotle wrote an entire treatise on it, which Thomas Aquinas later built upon. Freedom and happiness are only possible when bodily wants and emotions are subject to the mastery of reason and the human will. That is the greatest treasure of Western Civilization, and the reason that classical wisdom is being expunged.

16133416? ago

Did you know that there is a v/stoicism on Voat? Very interesting sub.

16129362? ago

the most powerfully cast spell is when you calmly, confidently tell the truth about bad behavior.

Great, practical book about how to do this as a parent: 1-2-3 Magic.

16129335? ago

Very interesting post, OP. Thanks. It would have been truly outstanding if you linked to sources for all of the various elements, so researchers could weigh the truth of it for themselves.

16130464? ago

At Tavistock Consulting we apply a ‘systems-psychodynamic’ theory of change to our work with organisations.

https://tavistockconsulting.co.uk/approach-systems-psychodynamic-thinking/

During TIHR70, festival dreamers were invited to take part in our daily inquiry to explore what collective meanings we can find from sharing our overnight dreams and what they might tell us about our current shared experiences and understandings.

Read a report on each day’s Social Dreaming by following the links below:

http://festival.tavinstitute.org/event/dream-last-night-festival-social-dreaming-matrices/

Effective programs of mass persuasion must 1) change the cognitive structures of individuals; 2) change the motivational structures of individuals; and 3) activate new forms of behavior.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12336576

Several of the children who Cameron experimented on were sexually abused, in at least one case by several men. One of the children was filmed numerous times performing sexual acts with high-ranking federal government officials, in a scheme set up by Cameron and other MKULTRA researchers, to blackmail the officials to ensure further funding for the experiments.[136]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

In the early 1950s and beyond, Max Fink was a fully cleared CIA Project Artichoke consultant. Project Artichoke was headed by former Naval intelligence officer Morse Allen and in 1951 and 1952 especially, Allen worked closely with Fink in New York City in efforts to thoroughly explore the merits of electroshock techniques for interrogations.* The CIA was especially interested in the use of electroshock machines in producing amnesia, inducing subjects to talk and making subjects more prone to hypnotic control.

https://mikemcclaughry.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/what-really-happened-at-the-missouri-institute-of-psychiatry-cia-mkultra-and-scientology/

1964–1970s: MK-SEARCH experiments were conducted on “expendables”

http://ahrp.org/1964-1970s-mk-search-experiments-were-conducted-on-expendables/

Allen also wrote that Bannerman was concerned that the military hospital at Fort Clayton may not approve of or permit an Artichoke operation to be conducted on the ward within which Dimitrov was being held, thus necessitating the movement of Dimitrov to another location in Panama. Lastly, Bannerman stated to the official and Allen that “[the CIA’s Office of] Security [through its Artichoke Committee] would have to be cognizant” of the operation, and may even want to “run the operation themselves since this type of work is one which Security handles for the Agency. Here it is interesting to note that among the many members of the agency’s Artichoke Committee in 1952 was Dr. Frank Olson, who would about a year later be murdered in New York City.

https://truthout.org/articles/the-real-roots-of-the-cias-rendition-and-black-sites-program/

There are several quarries in Egypt, but the preferred granite source came from the Aswan area. One of the earliest known directors of the Aswan quarry was employed by Ramses III, named Hori around 1170 BC (1). Much of the red, grey, and black granite used in the pyramids and Valley Temple on the Giza plateau was taken from here, and was utilized long before Ramses III. The stone from this quarry was transformed into the casing stones of Khafre and Menkaure’s pyramids, the 70 ton lintels above the Kings Chamber, and numerous sarcophagi, columns, and megalithic blocks on the plateau and beyond. The casing stones on Menkaure’s pyramid have caused some controversy. Robert Temple and his colleagues concluded, by using a technique called optical thermoluminescence , that the casing stones were dated between 3590 – 2640 BC, much earlier than Menkaure, and possibly confirming that the pyramids were built several hundred years before King Menes, the first Pharaoh, circa 3100 BC (2). This also dates the quarry at Aswan much earlier than previously thought, as that’s where the stone came from.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-africa-opinion-guest-authors/forgotten-stones-aswan-quarry-egypt-001984

Eratosthenes calculated the Earth's circumference without leaving Egypt. He knew that at local noon on the summer solstice in Syene (modern Aswan, Egypt), the Sun was directly overhead. ... Using the length of the rod, and the length of the shadow, as the legs of a triangle, he calculated the angle of the sun's rays.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

The obelisk that originally embellished Caligula’s circus was moved in front of the façade of the Basilica of Saint Peter (which was under construction at the time) by Pope Sixtus V in 1586, to celebrate the triumph of the Church over paganism and heresy.

https://www.voxmundi.eu/secrets-vatican-obelisk/

http://magaimg.net/img/71oc.jpg

16133678? ago

@letsdothis3, please see above.

16133888? ago

Thank you for the ping. Will study this post later when I have time... a quick scan ...

Effective programs of mass persuasion must 1) change the cognitive structures of individuals; 2) change the motivational structures of individuals; and 3) activate new forms of behavior.

Joshua Epstein at the Santa Fe Institute is working on that @Mammy

16133966? ago

You're welcome.

16130565? ago

NICE!

16129255? ago

OP, any coincidentalism in you posting this and this being posted recently?

16129169? ago

@Vindicator

this guy is talking operation artichoke. MKNaomi

shit buried in IamQ 's imgur album

16129274? ago

Thanks for the ping!

16128017? ago

Interesting post bro ty

16127340? ago

Great summary, but programming slaves from childhood was practiced much earlier than WW1.

Canaanites > Egyptians > Romans > Holy Roman Empire > Vatican & English Crown

16128890? ago

Sources ?

16138713? ago

Check out the New World Order breads on the research board for a good starting place :)

16127445? ago

From the post...

They didn't just stumble across torturing kids, they merely studied a behavior that was already being done.

16127670? ago

Mm, good eye anon. Thanks.

16126382? ago

If you're not a PhD Psychologist, you easily could be with this for a thesis. Well done.

16126259? ago

https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/01/14/smoke-out-resistance/

Process is what we serve, process keeps us safe, process is our core value. It takes a lot of people to maintain the process. Process provides jobs. In fact, there are process experts and certified process managers who protect the process.

16125561? ago

The SEE-cret Societies are large and in charge.

There is only ONE who will conquer them.

Soon. In a twinkling of an eye, For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west;

Pizzagate was debunked. The Podesesta e-mails were hacked and phished. That was already proven.

Don't ask me for proof. I already proved it to another Anon awhile ago. Not going to do it again.

16127656? ago

lol u

16127000? ago

Needle pad coral.

16125429? ago

"The most powerfully cast spell is when you calmly, confidently tell the truth about bad behavior."

Thank you.

16130346? ago

Like our POTUS does!

16125153? ago

I was just gonna say this!

16124788? ago

I have gained 50 lbs in 4 months since finding a place to settle to follow Q primarily.

16129542? ago

Now THAT is some fucking Murica right there boy. Enjoy that popcorn.

you git R done. Buy 100 guns and you will be unstoppable.