When the Q movement started people were allowed to have differing points of view and it was ok. Unfortunately we all got sent to this website where people are down voted for having a differing points of view, and being down voted insures that people with differing points of view can't submit posts. Really good posts are down voted to the point that know one will see them which is what will happen to this post I'm sure. The posts I see at the top look like we are in an echo chamber. Free speech is dying on here. People get called shills for asking real questions and having posts that maybe don't go along with the collective. The Q movement has a real threat of disappearing if this keeps happening. Unfortunately for typing this i will be called a shill and down voted, but I really don't care. does anyone wonder why we haven't gotten more than 15000 subscribers. when we were at more than 70000 before we got sent here. I am just warning people that we are pushing good people away. WWG1WGA
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15742160? ago
There does seem to be a concerted effort to divide this subverse into Boomers vs the rest, I've observed. Too often a seemingly great comment chain dissolves into "fuck off Boomer, what did you do to beat the cabal in your time?" It's seems to be another divide and conquer strat by the DS.
15748373? ago
Fuck you don't call me a boomer.
15744796? ago
This Boomer thing was started by Neon Revolt. Take the issue to him. I stopped following or even dealing with him due to this.
15749057? ago
"Boomer" was started before Neon surfaced, if I recall correctly.
Around day five or six, I started to see "boomer" pick up on half. But, I also saw it every once in a while on /pol/ before Q ever popped up.
15749154? ago
Neon Normalized it. He spent a solid 3 weeks calling everyone with good grammar boomers. he is as corrupt as the deep state and is just using this movement to make a buck. He is a Pay-Triot. Nothing will change my opinion of this.
15749221? ago
Sorry, I don't care whether or not you're convinced, I'm simply telling you what I remember seeing.
Even still, the only part of this argument I'll touch is that Neon has done important work, even if he supposedly fueled this fire. Granted, I don't care much about him and I've never needed his work to better understand things, so don't think I'll defend him too much. But, I do think you're pushing curiously hard for people not to trust him. Who cares that much who fanned the fire if their other contributions have outweighed such? Him adding a lot of content to the community isn't something anyone can deny with a sound head.
15749568? ago
"Pushing curiously hard" and "only part of this argument" <<<< Only person arguing is you. I have a right to my opinion and I am only stating such. IF that is pushing "curiously hard" and "an argument" then you are taking part in a very onesided argument because my opinion is mine and I never said you have to adopt it. So please tell me more about why I should care to respond after this... Oh, and Merry Christmas.
One more thing before I go, I never said he did not contribute good content, but it is not content I cannot get elsewhere, so good for him he is good at waiting a week and parroting the other people who are on it right away. But that being said, I am still allowed to my opinion. Nothing you say or do can change that. Good luck with that.
15750925? ago
I mean it seems like neither of us are really arguing or content to argue
15744396? ago
There's a lot of jealousy. The boomer generation was probably the luckiest generation and got to experience the whitest white America ever. Back when people were polite and saying "heck" was blasphemy. Compare the social atmospheres of boomers when they were teens and my generation (gen z). My generation can't even decide what gender they are and it's offensive to sing certain Christmas songs and it's racist to eat pb&j with white milk. The normal ones of us are hyper alert to politics and realize what our teachers are trying to do to us as well as tv shows and most media. Boomers would "walk a mile in the snow uphill and like it", and I'd take that shit any day over whatever weird anti-logic environment I'm growing up in right now. It's like when someone has a party at your house and doesn't clean up anything and leaves it all trashed. Yeah, there's lots of reasons to be jealous of boomers and the era they grew up in. Pictures of American families in the 50's invoke the same feelings in me that blacks get when they see pictures of Wakanda.
15745825? ago
You have glorified a not so glorious time period. I knew many parents of boomers who were alcoholics due to WWII and other wars. Fathers who came home from work and drank and yelled and.... functional alcoholics.
I knew many boomers who lost fathers, brothers, uncles in the Vietnam War. At the beginning of the Vietnam war I knew college students who signed up to be medics who never came home. I knew guys who who experienced the effects of agent orange and saw how it affected their children. I knew mothers and fathers who were abusive to their children both physically and sexually and society turned a blind eye.
I remember gas lines, War protests, and crazy hippy crap. We lived on college campus in the 60s and that was not pretty or good for children. I knew kids who did LSD. There is good and bad in every time period, make the best of your time because in 40 years some will be writing about how your time was the best.... and you will know it was not so bright and shiny.
15751026? ago
Basically everything you mentioned war related we can say ditto to thanks to the Middle East (including gulf war syndrome and the debate of chemical/biological weapons used against US troops.) Everything alcohol related we can say ditto to and add heroin/opiates/meth to.
The drugs available to high schoolers and middle schoolers nowadays would shock you. LSD? Yawn, most middle schoolers can hook you up with it. Weed? What strain? The average dealer only offers 50+ varieties. Method is the only thing that makes me sad when I hear about middle schoolers that experiment with it. Modern times have much worse and destructive drugs available. That doesn’t even include the pharmaceuticals that anyone can get just by asking a doctor.
I’d say the only things we have better than the boomer age is entertainment, which is proving to be very mentally destructive, technology, which is somewhat destructive if used improperly but is also extremely convenient and efficient, and medical advances (excluding psych meds that over half of Americans are on).
Also comparing then to modern day purchasing power, college tuition, food quality (when food was actually real and not genetic or processed), housing prices...
I get it wasn’t all perfect all the time, but there is no argument that the lowest low then was anywhere close to any of the top 10 modern lows. This just made people more jealous of what you all had, a quality of life/society that was so different from today it soon won’t even be believed, and will be such a contrast to modern life that it will looked at as fantasy.
15752412? ago
This is what I had growing up we lived with either my mothers parents or my dad's. Both grandparents had small two bedroom houses which meant my parents and my brothers and sisters slept in the same room. Finally when my mother was pregnant with her sixth child my dad's father helped them buy a small house, I was 11 at the time. I am the oldest of 8 kids. I only went to school until the 8th grade because I was needed at home. Back then it was still acceptable to take a girl out of school to help at home. I never attended high school or finished junior high. I took the GED and got enough Community College under my belt to get in the Air Force when I was 29, which I did to get money to go to college.
I served in the Gulf War thinking I might die for George H's oil interests.
When I got home from the gulf I had kids and staid home to home-school them in part because the P in the DPT vaccine cause seizure disorders in all of our children. I finally finished my BA in my 50s and am now in grad school. My student loan debt is over 100,000 and because I staid home I have no social security. I joined the moral majority, the contract with America, the tea party, we protested against abortion and.... My husband was ground crew for AA and personally knew both the flight crew's on 9/11 . I could keep writing.
There are more people awake now which is why there is movement toward the light. I have spent most of my life awake and most of that was with the thought that this nation would become something evil if other folks did not wake up. I hate putting people in to demographic groups whether it is by age or by skin color or any other reason. The only way MAGA works is if we go as one, united we stand, divided we fall. In my mind there are no boomers, gen Xers, Millennial, and when the census comes around we refuse to check a race box. We are either all Americans or we will all die at the hands of the far left ideology. I plan on dying as an American not as a female boomer of undisclosed racial and religious background. I am proud to be replying to another outstanding American like you!
I refuse to let a leftist demographic define me.
15749093? ago
Indeed, many will write about these times.
We will live in unrecognized infamy until our time stands still.
Not to worry, as there are many perks to living a lifetime of silence behind the green door.
15743987? ago
Yep, agreed. They can't find any other racial/gender/ideology that separates the Q followers, so hey, let's try age.
15743758? ago
Those who say 'fuck off boomer, what did you do to beat the cabal' are literally helping that same cabal
15744140? ago
I can't wait until you boomers all die off.
15743651? ago
...You don't think its possible that, even within a shared movement or group, there may not be permanent unanimous agreement?
15743358? ago
Look, I know most of you probably aren't seasoned anon's that have spent time with multiple waves of newfags, a decade or more of shills following you around, and all that, but you guys have got to understand that the "bad guys" utilize divide and conquer tactics nearly exhaustively in these environments.
The more seasoned of us have been aware of the shills embedded within Voat for some time, just as we were familiar with them at Reddit and each of the other iterations of the types of waves explained already.
I've tried to tell you guys in more than one way and in more than one instance. I've even gone as far as to provoke specific people here so that you'd all see plainly precisely what I mean. Unfortunately, and while I seem to have gotten through to some of you, there has been a considerable amount of you that have fallen prey to precisely the people I describe.
Anons are rather familiar with who they are, what they do, and why they do it here. Pay closer attention to things and you'll see it clearly like we do.
AGAIN anons are not divided. Indeed, however, they would certainly have us divided, so they try.
Keep your eyes up and your ears perked. Look for the handshake from anon. The ones that don't know how to respond are not to be trusted. Keep in mind, we're here for you just as much as we are here for ourselves.
Stay frosty.
15746275? ago
I've noticed their tactics change,. The shills are in fact losing, our numbers are stronger than ever. The lastest tactic has dwindled to mere casting doubt on our cause,. Yet another failure! Nothing can stop what's coming... Nothing!!!
15749046? ago
Semper vigilans
Pro rege
15743839? ago
Thank you Anon. I think I recognize you from your writing style. You've replied to me before; twice I believe. I always appreciate your replies and explanations, and will continue to stay vigilant. I believe I'm seeing what you're talking about. Obvious efforts to alienate and deprecate portions of the movement. I mentioned the Boomer cohort that they are trying to divided and conquer. But you are right: we are not divided, unless we believe we are. I do not believe we are divided, but I am recognizing the ways they try to achieve that division.
Thanks again for the thoughtful reply, Patriot.
15749037? ago
I came here for one reason, and one reason only.
While I didn't know Q would choose this place, or lend a hand to those of us that have done surveillance work with this place, or put in the time to figure out the way things are structured here, I'm honored that, even if not directly, my work has been recognized.
I'm glad we see eye to eye.
You know, it's funny you say you recognize the way I write. For the most part, that was done entirely on purpose. It's kinda cool that you were able to pick up on things. Thanks for noticing.
15743821? ago
This ^
I dont get why people would stop following Q. Its literally the only shot we have left. What are the 'leavers' going to do about it? By themselves?
15751246? ago
Shocks me how few people are involved in these discussions. OP’s post got approx 40 votes, comments here are maxing out at 30 votes at most, averaging around at 10 votes, a small classroom size discussion. So whoever “wins” this “debate” in this thread will somehow effect (what we estimate at) hundreds of thousands of Q followers? Way too many things to figure in to guess how people will react after January 3rd if nothing has happened, but I didn’t see more than 1 pic of Qanon supporters in the France protests. Point being, when people get angry enough, they won’t resort to some anonymous person telling them what to do, and some anonymous insider asking them to sit back and enjoy the show would have had no impact on what they finally decided to do. Q has a following, but no one really knows how many are content to enjoy the show and how many are ready for something more. The sheer fact that posts here asking people to not physically protest has increased weekly shows how many people are getting restless.
15744121? ago
Too bad Q is a crock of shit, considering it was our last chance.
15744647? ago
So with your last days and time spent on earth you are choosing to insult people? God will judge you accordingly. You may want to take this time to be the best version of yourself you can be.
15744026? ago
No, it's not the only option. That's silly
15744498? ago
What other option do you have in mind?
15742812? ago
It's mostly those that still believe in Q and those that are preparing to leave Q after Jan 3. The ones that still believe call the others shills, and the ones that are about to leave retaliate by calling the others boomers. 1 group will continue to sit and enjoy the show while effectively doing nothing, while the other group is preparing a more "hands on" approach with what little time we have left. The voter report that just got released was a major trigger for a lot of people.
15743776? ago
No it wasn't, shilly faggot
15744208? ago
Excellent rebuttal eternal boomer (thus, illustrating my point)
15745818? ago
One time I found an onion rings in my fries
15743760? ago
Nobody is doing any "hands on" approach. All they are doing is complaining and saying they are giving up. Pussies.
15744497? ago
Lol you think they use voat to plan IRL events? Only glow in the dark fags use it for that. It's not that hard to find
15744035? ago
There are IRL activists here
15743683? ago
Preparing to leave after Jan 3 if there are no military tribunals, you mean?
Is the group leaving after Jan 3 the one attempting whatever a "hands on" approach means? I haven't seen anything about a schism of late - just more prayers than normal.
15744530? ago
You have to search outside of voat for it. If I type it here it will get flooded with shills.
15742742? ago
Fuck off, Boomer.
15742781? ago
lol
15742180? ago
Thats because boomers are brainwashed sheeple that believe in imaginary things that dont exist. Like god.
15742889? ago
This is the dumb ass shit I'm talking about when I spoke of morons that are uneducated and never walked a mile in our boots.
15742728? ago
SPEAKING OF SHILLS, HERE IS ONE RIGHT NOW.
HOW TO IDENTIFY THESE SICK, PANICKING FUCKS WITH 100% ACCURACY:
https://voat.co/v/QRV/2858861
15742562? ago
Sure... suuuurrreee... "brainwashed sheeple" who somehow manage to be red-pilled, active here on VOAT, and have been waiting for Q for decades longer than you have, shill.
15743344? ago
The "I'm right because I'm old as fuck." fallacy.